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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 01:24 PM
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20. Thom Hartman just mention our DUer Dave Swanson
as one the patriots that has worked so hard on impeachment.
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  -just heard on Thom Hartmann, if Bush is being impeached he cannot pardon robinlynne  Jul-11-08 12:28 PM   #0 
  - Yes, so more power to Congress to support impeachment  whistle   Jul-11-08 12:29 PM   #1 
  - Does that mean if it's in process?  LisaM   Jul-11-08 12:29 PM   #2 
  - yes.  robinlynne   Jul-11-08 12:32 PM   #4 
  - a side note ... during the impeachment of BC, the economy was going well  zbdent   Jul-11-08 12:49 PM   #12 
  - And Impeachment Hearings are immune to "executive privilege" claims.  tekisui   Jul-11-08 12:30 PM   #3 
  - Actually any criminal investigation is immune to executive privilege claims.  Wizard777   Jul-11-08 12:58 PM   #14 
  - But Nanc has not put it on the table  liberal N proud   Jul-11-08 12:37 PM   #5 
  - Is he being impeached?  JustABozoOnThisBus   Jul-11-08 12:39 PM   #6 
  - No, he cannot pardon anyone UNDER impeachment.  Indydem   Jul-11-08 12:40 PM   #7 
  - The wording seems ambiguous here...  Qutzupalotl   Jul-11-08 12:45 PM   #9 
  - It's not really ambiguous: if Bush were "under" impeachment, his Executive powers are not affected.  exothermic   Jul-11-08 12:47 PM   #11 
     - The constitution doesn't say "under impeachment"  Qutzupalotl   Jul-11-08 12:55 PM   #13 
        - Well, "cases of impeachment" makes it pretty clear they were not talking about the President.  exothermic   Jul-11-08 01:14 PM   #17 
        - If they had intended to exempt the president,  Qutzupalotl   Jul-11-08 01:32 PM   #22 
           - No doubt. When you're nominated to the Supreme Court, I promise to support you 100%  exothermic   Jul-11-08 01:40 PM   #24 
        - If it's unspecified, couldn't it mean ANY cases of impeachment? n/t  kgfnally   Jul-11-08 01:45 PM   #25 
        - I would interpret that to mean that a president could not pardon  JDPriestly   Jul-11-08 10:43 PM   #28 
  - that is what I thought.  merh   Jul-11-08 01:03 PM   #16 
  - That's what I've been hollering for at least a year... trying to get through to the anti impeachment  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-11-08 12:43 PM   #8 
  - I'm 99.72% certain that's not true.  exothermic   Jul-11-08 12:46 PM   #10 
  - Well reading the Constitution should help then...  hootinholler   Jul-11-08 01:21 PM   #18 
     - Can we look at that sentence...  exothermic   Jul-11-08 01:33 PM   #23 
     - Replace the "negates the pardon" with "is rendered null."  hootinholler   Jul-11-08 02:20 PM   #26 
     - that means he can't pardon people who have been Impeached  dsc   Jul-11-08 10:49 PM   #30 
        - I agree with your reading....  Jeff In Milwaukee   Jul-11-08 11:23 PM   #31 
  - If both Cheney and bush are impeached and convicted, wouldn't that make Pelosi POTUS? n/t  JBoris   Jul-11-08 01:01 PM   #15 
  - That's correct. The president cannot pardon anyone from impeachment.  TexasObserver   Jul-11-08 01:22 PM   #19 
  - This is the correct answer. nt  Crabby Appleton   Jul-11-08 02:47 PM   #27 
  - Thom Hartman just mention our DUer Dave Swanson  Ichingcarpenter   Jul-11-08 01:24 PM   #20 
  - This and many other reasons,  Cleita   Jul-11-08 01:26 PM   #21 
  - that is not true  dsc   Jul-11-08 10:47 PM   #29 
  - No it just means he cannot reverse an impeachment (or subsequent conviction in the Senate)  NYC Liberal   Jul-11-08 11:34 PM   #32 

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