aspergris
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Thu Jul-10-08 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #90 |
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It's been said people tend to create their own reality.
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| -The American Dream is over. |
Writer |
Jul-09-08 10:45 PM |
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I don't usually agree with you, but this is spot-on |
Finnfan |
Jul-09-08 10:48 PM |
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Let me guess, you have a plan... |
djohnson |
Jul-10-08 12:02 AM |
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Lol. Not even close. |
Finnfan |
Jul-10-08 06:34 AM |
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Actually, i am on the other end of the scale. |
realpolitik |
Jul-10-08 10:11 AM |
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Isn't survival the number one priority for most people? |
Wcross |
Jul-10-08 07:51 PM |
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I notice this as well |
tburnsten |
Jul-11-08 02:06 PM |
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I guess food comes from grocery stores......... |
Wcross |
Jul-11-08 05:20 PM |
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You have to be asleep to believe in it. |
arcadian |
Jul-09-08 10:49 PM |
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Even MANAGEMENT is waking up. |
PassingFair |
Jul-09-08 10:50 PM |
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Sorry, what does this have to do with FISA? You need to make your post FISA-relevant |
wienerdoggie |
Jul-09-08 10:50 PM |
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BTW, I do agree that our standard of living is in decline. Just a matter |
wienerdoggie |
Jul-09-08 10:52 PM |
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Awh-h-h, quitcher bitchin'! Look at the bright side. |
anotheryellowdog |
Jul-09-08 10:52 PM |
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This is a blip |
clovis29 |
Jul-09-08 11:02 PM |
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. |
Blue State Native |
Jul-10-08 07:29 AM |
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You don't realize how wrecked our economy is do you? |
Wcross |
Jul-10-08 07:58 PM |
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Are you sharing the pills with the |
mountainvue |
Jul-10-08 09:44 PM |
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This is the first time I've seriously thought of buying a house... |
liberalmuse |
Jul-09-08 11:02 PM |
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I can see the Canadian border from a hill in my little town..... |
cliffordu |
Jul-10-08 10:15 AM |
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I applied a couple of days ago |
lynettebro440 |
Jul-10-08 06:48 PM |
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But hey, wasn't it one hell of a party? |
realpolitik |
Jul-09-08 11:06 PM |
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K&R for this reply! |
Newsjock |
Jul-09-08 11:10 PM |
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I also appluad your reply. |
Wcross |
Jul-10-08 08:00 PM |
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oh spare me |
aspergris |
Jul-09-08 11:22 PM |
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Sorry, but the dynamics are totally different today. |
Elwood P Dowd |
Jul-09-08 11:34 PM |
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The oldest canard |
aspergris |
Jul-09-08 11:38 PM |
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Show me history |
Elwood P Dowd |
Jul-09-08 11:45 PM |
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And |
aspergris |
Jul-09-08 11:50 PM |
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It's obvious that you are a republican. Why are you here? |
Elwood P Dowd |
Jul-09-08 11:58 PM |
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No, I am on this board |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 12:02 AM |
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ZOMG! he disagreed with you! |
tchunter |
Jul-10-08 07:02 PM |
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WTF |
sudopod |
Jul-11-08 01:46 PM |
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What does the length of time on this sight have to do with his post? |
tired |
Jul-11-08 02:07 PM |
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Don't you know that to be a "progressive" means you must be a pessimist? |
Common Sense Party |
Jul-10-08 10:29 AM |
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Good god, you sound like Joseph Kennedy's shoeshine boy. |
thecatburgler |
Jul-09-08 11:46 PM |
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I sound like somebody |
aspergris |
Jul-09-08 11:55 PM |
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Stay tuned. Every recovery was dependant on the supply of cheap energy. |
cliffordu |
Jul-10-08 10:24 AM |
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again, no vision |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 06:40 PM |
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Your nievete is charming. |
cliffordu |
Jul-10-08 06:47 PM |
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necessity |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 07:00 PM |
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maybe your right maybe your wrong |
natrat |
Jul-10-08 07:32 PM |
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The operative phrase being: "Been a Union member for years" |
thecatburgler |
Jul-09-08 11:42 PM |
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If I sound like a Wingnut for saying the American Dream ISN'T over |
aspergris |
Jul-09-08 11:46 PM |
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If you know history, then you know that the last time our country emerged from |
thecatburgler |
Jul-09-08 11:53 PM |
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not even close |
aspergris |
Jul-09-08 11:56 PM |
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And people living during the Great Depression |
thecatburgler |
Jul-10-08 12:11 AM |
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Who is this "we"? |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 12:23 AM |
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Where are the Hoovervilles? |
thecatburgler |
Jul-10-08 12:31 AM |
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Btw, just to dispel this "freeper" accusation |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 12:34 AM |
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As will McCain. |
thecatburgler |
Jul-10-08 12:46 AM |
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Mccain won't spend jack cause he won't win... |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 01:04 AM |
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Right across the kansas river from me |
realpolitik |
Jul-10-08 10:33 AM |
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Try East St. Louis. |
Political Heretic |
Jul-10-08 07:02 PM |
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So, this is as bad as this one will get? |
MattSh |
Jul-10-08 12:55 PM |
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Will the mods please do something with this freeper. |
Elwood P Dowd |
Jul-10-08 12:00 AM |
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Please quote |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 12:03 AM |
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Get a life jerk. |
Elwood P Dowd |
Jul-10-08 12:08 AM |
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I already provided case cites and data |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 12:20 AM |
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Half the American people have nothing in the stock market |
Elwood P Dowd |
Jul-10-08 12:36 AM |
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How wrong you are |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 01:08 AM |
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You're the one with no real knowledge and nothing but republican talking points. |
Elwood P Dowd |
Jul-10-08 01:48 AM |
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Anything you don't understand is.... |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 06:34 PM |
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some of us don't have any liquid assets...period |
kineneb |
Jul-10-08 06:50 PM |
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Curious, why are your references consistently the stock market? |
tnlefty |
Jul-11-08 12:12 PM |
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S/he posted that s/he is a trader |
lastliberalintexas |
Jul-11-08 01:03 PM |
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I noticed that and it does help to explain the skewed point of |
tnlefty |
Jul-11-08 01:53 PM |
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Take it easy! |
EOTE |
Jul-10-08 10:46 AM |
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Srsly, who peed in your cornflakes this morning? nt |
sudopod |
Jul-11-08 01:50 PM |
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Wow |
BigDaddy44 |
Jul-10-08 07:15 PM |
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I wish I had your optimism. Things look pretty bleak for many many people. |
Truth4Justice |
Jul-10-08 01:19 AM |
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And to add to your list, the deteriorating environment, weather, |
ladjf |
Jul-10-08 07:20 AM |
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Ask any economist |
realpolitik |
Jul-10-08 10:23 AM |
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Not All Of Us Say That |
ProfessorGAC |
Jul-10-08 10:34 AM |
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Sorry |
realpolitik |
Jul-10-08 10:42 AM |
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So True |
ProfessorGAC |
Jul-10-08 10:49 AM |
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I've got 17 years on you and can assure you that this time IS different! |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-10-08 01:34 PM |
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My first bank account gave me a 5% on my savings. You can't |
Chimichurri |
Jul-10-08 01:41 PM |
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That's right, and a lot of people really depend on interest to supplement |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-10-08 07:54 PM |
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50/50 chance that it's always darkest before the storm too. |
HypnoToad |
Jul-10-08 06:51 PM |
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Our Government died first |
StClone |
Jul-09-08 11:23 PM |
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"Dem's in office offer no resistance" Will we ever be able to find |
ladjf |
Jul-10-08 07:22 AM |
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But as I've learned recently, right here on DU |
thecatburgler |
Jul-09-08 11:39 PM |
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the op is right. we should all just give up. i mean, what's the point? |
CasualWatcher9 |
Jul-09-08 11:44 PM |
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I think that the op is saying, |
NattPang |
Jul-09-08 11:47 PM |
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wow. you got that from the op's post? |
CasualWatcher9 |
Jul-09-08 11:54 PM |
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I think he understands better than McCain does. nt |
thecatburgler |
Jul-10-08 12:12 AM |
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ah, ok. so when i vote in november, i will definitely look for "he" on my ballot... |
CasualWatcher9 |
Jul-10-08 12:22 AM |
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Do what you want. I'm voting for Obama. nt |
thecatburgler |
Jul-10-08 12:29 AM |
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The current situation is bad. But, giving up is always a bad move. |
ladjf |
Jul-10-08 07:26 AM |
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and if you're over 45, no one will hire you due to age discrimination |
leftofthedial |
Jul-10-08 12:24 AM |
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Those over the age of 50 who retrained for a new field are finding |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-10-08 01:19 PM |
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now you're scaring me |
northernlights |
Jul-10-08 01:56 PM |
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If this is at all encouraging, |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-10-08 07:59 PM |
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your job search |
onetinsoldier |
Jul-10-08 08:48 PM |
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And then there's the environment. |
Gregorian |
Jul-10-08 12:29 AM |
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The trees are dying? Do you mean the redwoods? |
Raksha |
Jul-10-08 02:04 AM |
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You might have seen me. |
Gregorian |
Jul-10-08 10:27 AM |
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"The American Dream" never existed except for a privileged few. |
Fox Mulder |
Jul-10-08 12:31 AM |
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Right. |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 01:09 AM |
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There are scores of millions more who are poor... |
Fox Mulder |
Jul-10-08 01:33 AM |
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Your point and his aren't mutually exclusive. |
nomorenomore08 |
Jul-10-08 01:56 AM |
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Except I look at the #'s |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 02:01 AM |
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Some people are doing fine. Others are struggling very, very hard right now. |
nomorenomore08 |
Jul-10-08 02:12 AM |
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"Don't you see what's happening here? |
hfojvt |
Jul-10-08 02:20 AM |
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I think that most of us find it out in our teens now |
Indenturedebtor |
Jul-10-08 10:37 AM |
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that's a big part of the problem |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 06:23 PM |
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Sure many people do live beyond their means |
Indenturedebtor |
Jul-10-08 06:39 PM |
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I think they do a mediocre job |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 07:01 PM |
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Honestly I don't need a rose garden...I just want a full time job |
conflictgirl |
Jul-10-08 10:29 PM |
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We buy with the dollars we have and not the dollars |
Hardrada |
Jul-10-08 02:18 AM |
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exactly |
aspergris |
Jul-11-08 01:00 PM |
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why stop at 45...? |
QuestionAll |
Jul-10-08 06:46 AM |
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If you're on the 60 side of 50, you understand it too! |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-10-08 07:14 AM |
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I have felt the first little hints of age discrimination |
slackmaster |
Jul-10-08 08:51 AM |
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You hope you get lucky and have a massive coranay attack. No one cares anyhow. |
Truth4Justice |
Jul-10-08 01:51 PM |
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Only if the coronary kills you. |
DailyGrind51 |
Jul-11-08 04:26 PM |
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very true |
Blue_Tires |
Jul-10-08 07:47 AM |
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There is much truth in what you are saying, Writer, but it has happened before and it's not the end |
slackmaster |
Jul-10-08 08:45 AM |
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But what you or your parents paid for college in 1980 is nothing compared to today |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Jul-10-08 08:55 AM |
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Yes, college was heavily subsidized in California when I was attending |
slackmaster |
Jul-10-08 09:07 AM |
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My dreams aren't about material crap |
sleebarker |
Jul-10-08 10:40 AM |
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sleebarker -> very well put... |
Imagevision |
Jul-10-08 06:39 PM |
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It always was a "dream". One induced by greed. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-10-08 10:49 AM |
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No it isn't. |
Throd |
Jul-10-08 02:22 PM |
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Yup... |
aspergris |
Jul-10-08 06:41 PM |
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Get sick- go bankrupt |
depakid |
Jul-10-08 02:23 PM |
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been there... |
kineneb |
Jul-10-08 06:52 PM |
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Well, if it substantiates my OP a bit more, my husband just got laid off this morning. |
Writer |
Jul-10-08 02:35 PM |
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Mother Nature bats last. Exponential growth always ends. |
hunter |
Jul-10-08 02:50 PM |
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must say: it is only a "dream" not a reality |
kineneb |
Jul-10-08 06:55 PM |
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I'm living well.... because I went bankrupt and then lowered my expectations :P |
Political Heretic |
Jul-10-08 06:59 PM |
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I disagree. |
Joe Holmes |
Jul-10-08 07:39 PM |
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Joe, that's a good story, but I have to ask: |
Writer |
Jul-10-08 07:47 PM |
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Answer: |
Joe Holmes |
Jul-10-08 08:06 PM |
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So Joe, how much of your "success" is just dumb luck? |
hunter |
Jul-11-08 12:42 AM |
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Bad shit happens, thats true. |
Joe Holmes |
Jul-11-08 08:26 AM |
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Not to get too personal, but since you posted about your cancer |
lastliberalintexas |
Jul-11-08 01:18 PM |
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You Whiner! Just think positive thoughts and you'll be ok... |
ChimpersMcSmirkers |
Jul-10-08 08:08 PM |
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Aw yes, the middle-class crack that is the consumerist American Nightmare kind of Dream. |
Kip Humphrey |
Jul-10-08 08:12 PM |
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End Is Near |
NeedleCast |
Jul-10-08 08:19 PM |
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When American Dream comes up, I never tire of telling my in-laws story |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Jul-11-08 06:50 AM |
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let me clue you into something, there never ever was an "american dream"... |
Javaman |
Jul-11-08 02:41 PM |
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I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT THE TRUE AMERICAN DREAM IS TO BE IN 'DEBT'! |
Tight_rope |
Jul-11-08 03:33 PM |
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Even with a Dem President installed, does anyone think 09 is going to be better then 08? |
Imagevision |
Jul-11-08 05:50 PM |
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Probably not, but with Obama in office, things might start to look up in '10 and afterward. |
nomorenomore08 |
Jul-11-08 06:28 PM |
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I really hate the fact that big business interests outweigh the populace's interests. |
EOO |
Jul-11-08 06:32 PM |
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