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A Good Day to say "Goodbye".
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Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 03:49 PM by Oregone
Today, with the passing of the FISA bill, will also serve as the anniversary of the last night that I sleep in my own home, shop in my small hometown, and watch our all-American programming. As is stands, our car is packed and our hopes are high, for tomorrow we depart on the last, and most important, leg of a 5 year journey of emigration. Tomorrow, we seek out a promise of upward mobility in a statistical meritocracy, which also means, we are pursuing the American Dream. Like those that came before us to found this country, we are only taking what we can carry with us, and our hopes and dreamswith luck, this will be enough.

When I first considered leaving the United States, it was based upon the premise that our social condition is controlled by a self-sustaining process of greed and poverty, supported by a social order that ensures that each generation, averaged over a long period of time, will be as consistently deprived as the rest. In other words, the conditions of this society ensure posterity will not be much different from the last, and the laws will ensure that nothing will be able to change or stop the cycle. When the structure doesnt allow change, poverty becomes a perpetual cycle, as does wealth (but small cyclic changes are always observed). The bottom line was, change was nothing more than a mere word, and nothing short of a revolution was going to make a difference.

Perhaps I am merely reactionary to the last 8 years of this absurd political experience, which subsequently corresponds to 8 years since I became politically aware. Ive often thought, perhaps I am wrong?. Perhaps we really will not go to war? Perhaps the American people are smart enough to choose a leader who isnt bent on destroying the constitution? Perhaps things really can change around here? Ive tried to put my dogmatic thinking away, and ask honest questions with the assumption that I could be wrong. But time and time again, my assumptions on the goodwill of the country, the intelligence of Americans, and our ability to change the process have been proven correct (and this memorable day is another display of this concept). My entire lack of faith in this country, its people, and its process has been upheld countless times, to such an extent, Ive probably blocked out most of these travesties with the hope of leaving those memories behind.

So now, I look ahead.

I look forward to a life where I do not have to listen to war anthems at the start of every high school sports game, nor witness patriotic firework celebrations that evoke images of Shock and Awe, or rather, the deaths of innocents. I look forward to turning on a news network that covers more than what celebrity received a DUI, and considers the strange possibility that there is more than a single country in this world. I look forward to living in a society that seems to care about their citizens. Without a doubt, I look forward to having Universal Health Care in 3 months from now.

And to be clear to those certain to look upon our decision with disdain, this isnt my fight. I was merely born in an area controlled by this regime. It is no more my fight, than the Iraq War is the fight of a small Iraqi child hit by a stray bomb. And this sure as hell isnt my own childs fight, being that I find myself in no position to enroll her in this perpetually losing struggle. If it makes you feel good to suffer and struggle against this government entity, that is your business and yours alone, for not all of us dream of a life of political martyrdom.

Without a doubt, I do have good memories, and have met many wonderful people. I wish only the best for everyone I have known and this country as a whole (I do hope you prove me wrong). And for those of you who may find you have something in common with me, and the means to do so, pursue your dream with vigor. Life is so short and precious, so much so, that you shouldnt let yourself be part of a machine or torn up by one.

Live your life and chase your dreams, ensure the safety of your family and loved ones, and let your heart guide you to better pastures. Of course, you will never know how green that grass is until you stand there, and sometimes you will never know how brown your own is until you stand elsewhere. Wherever you stand, stand for yourself and your family.
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  -A Good Day to say "Goodbye". Oregone  Jul-09-08 03:48 PM   #0 
  - Goodbye and good luck!  notsodumbhillbilly   Jul-09-08 03:50 PM   #1 
  - Oh my Lord. You've got to be kidding.  wienerdoggie   Jul-09-08 03:52 PM   #2 
  - No  Oregone   Jul-09-08 03:56 PM   #9 
     - The straw and camel's back.  neuvocat   Jul-10-08 03:11 PM   #111 
  - Well, thanks for ditching us in our darkest hour  shadowknows69   Jul-09-08 03:52 PM   #3 
  - So you would blame a Jew for leaving Nazi Germany?  Truth4Justice   Jul-09-08 07:12 PM   #59 
     - lol Godwin on redi-grow... n/t  aspergris   Jul-10-08 06:36 PM   #125 
  - Hey, if wasn't 57 and had paid off a home in the last few years,  DailyGrind51   Jul-09-08 03:53 PM   #4 
  - What a wonderfully well written and thoughtful post  underpants   Jul-09-08 03:53 PM   #5 
  - I thought so too.  alyce douglas   Jul-09-08 07:33 PM   #67 
  - If I were 20 years younger and in better health, I'd be hitching a ride with you.  exothermic   Jul-09-08 03:55 PM   #6 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-09-08 03:56 PM   #8 
  - Just when I think I have seen the ultimate in drama and hyperbole, I'm wrong again.  elocs   Jul-09-08 03:55 PM   #7 
  - Ironic considering Searcha and Seizure  aspergris   Jul-09-08 07:17 PM   #60 
  - We DO have a right to remain silent  Prophet 451   Jul-10-08 12:00 PM   #108 
  - My husband is in the midst of a huge project with an English firm...  Pacifist Patriot   Jul-10-08 02:51 PM   #110 
  - Great  aspergris   Jul-10-08 06:30 PM   #124 
  - I actually live in the Midlands  Prophet 451   Jul-11-08 04:24 AM   #137 
     - I stopped (briefly) in Coventry last October.  Pacifist Patriot   Jul-11-08 02:16 PM   #147 
  - correct -my point stand  aspergris   Jul-10-08 06:29 PM   #123 
     - In this area, sure  Prophet 451   Jul-11-08 04:20 AM   #136 
        - that's roughly similar to here...  aspergris   Jul-11-08 12:58 PM   #145 
  - Yeah, but they only use it on criminals. NT  baby_mouse   Jul-10-08 03:53 PM   #115 
  - you may disagree with people  Two Americas   Jul-09-08 07:41 PM   #69 
  - Makes me totally jealous of the OP  Lilith Velkor   Jul-10-08 01:02 AM   #81 
     - Thanks for being glad for me...  Oregone   Jul-10-08 02:58 AM   #86 
        - Even for a disabled person with no money?  Lilith Velkor   Jul-10-08 03:04 AM   #87 
        - It would seem everyone has their unique circumstances,  Oregone   Jul-10-08 09:37 AM   #99 
        - I wish you well, dude  Lilith Velkor   Jul-10-08 10:59 AM   #106 
        - I appreciate your thoughtful reply, and would like to ask you a question....  bobbolink   Jul-10-08 06:46 PM   #128 
        - You are correct that such a demographic wasn't my first thought...  Oregone   Jul-11-08 12:29 AM   #134 
           - nice defense  bobbolink   Jul-11-08 12:32 PM   #142 
              - With all do respect...  Oregone   Jul-11-08 06:16 PM   #148 
        - how will it make a dramatic change without dissenters?  grasswire   Jul-11-08 06:36 PM   #151 
           - Im going to have to let you figure that one out. nt  Oregone   Jul-13-08 08:50 PM   #159 
        - Exactly. Useless Eaters Need Not Apply.  bobbolink   Jul-10-08 06:43 PM   #127 
        - Where are you going?  comtec   Jul-10-08 03:34 AM   #90 
           - Just heading north  Oregone   Jul-10-08 09:33 AM   #98 
              - nah, just holland here  comtec   Jul-10-08 10:01 AM   #102 
  - Not particularly dramatic, and only hyperbolic  baby_mouse   Jul-10-08 03:57 PM   #116 
     - Isn't it interesting how "drama" has become the "cool" way to denounce and reject somebody?  bobbolink   Jul-10-08 06:48 PM   #129 
        - Yes. As an argument it's meaningless gibberish. NT  baby_mouse   Jul-11-08 12:02 PM   #140 
           - Oh, it has meaning, alright. One more putdown.. one more judgement...  bobbolink   Jul-11-08 12:33 PM   #143 
  - Best of Luck!!  Redstate Red Herring   Jul-09-08 03:56 PM   #10 
  - I'd be running too, if I could  Hydra   Jul-09-08 03:56 PM   #11 
  - I have no idea what you said.  Common Sense Party   Jul-09-08 03:57 PM   #12 
  - Utopianistan?  aspergris   Jul-10-08 06:37 PM   #126 
  - Good luck to you - but I elect to stay and fight  derby378   Jul-09-08 03:57 PM   #13 
  - And I respect your choice, too!  Oregone   Jul-09-08 05:03 PM   #44 
  - I wish you luck, love and happiness in your journey  Pastiche423   Jul-09-08 03:58 PM   #14 
  - god speed and good luck!  mike_c   Jul-09-08 03:58 PM   #15 
  - Too bad.  NattPang   Jul-09-08 03:59 PM   #16 
  - This is one grand goodbye post that I actually enjoyed.  Javaman   Jul-09-08 03:59 PM   #17 
  - I guess I'm getting personal, but I am curious  Ishoutandscream2   Jul-09-08 04:00 PM   #18 
  - self-delete. Dup.  mnhtnbb   Jul-09-08 04:51 PM   #39 
  - It takes some work. You have to figure where you can go based upon your situation.  mnhtnbb   Jul-09-08 04:52 PM   #40 
  - ah, FISA vote bad, can't live here anymore, have to go to...  CreekDog   Jul-09-08 06:14 PM   #56 
     - Edited...  Oregone   Jul-09-08 07:19 PM   #61 
        - i was talking to the other poster about moving to Panama  CreekDog   Jul-09-08 07:25 PM   #63 
           - There is no such thing as 'perfect' in the real world,  Oregone   Jul-09-08 07:32 PM   #65 
  - Moderate to difficult, based on where you are going...  Oregone   Jul-09-08 05:06 PM   #45 
     - good luck on your exciting new adventure!  orleans   Jul-10-08 03:23 PM   #112 
  - Anybody who cares about the Constitution is voting Obama.  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-09-08 04:01 PM   #19 
  - Anyone who promotes such drivel is a fool.  Joe Fields   Jul-09-08 06:09 PM   #53 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-09-08 10:28 PM   #79 
     - .  Blue State Native   Jul-12-08 01:04 PM   #156 
  - There's still a Democrat who is fighting for us...  Fox Mulder   Jul-09-08 04:01 PM   #20 
  - Good news, Godspeed  symbolman   Jul-09-08 04:04 PM   #21 
  - Symbolman, trying not to be too picky but it is really, really  pokercat999   Jul-09-08 04:58 PM   #42 
     - HA  fla nocount   Jul-09-08 06:11 PM   #55 
     - i thought you hoe a "row" not a "road"  CreekDog   Jul-09-08 06:16 PM   #57 
     - Now you went and made me cry..  symbolman   Jul-09-08 08:50 PM   #76 
  - Oregone, I wish you well -  TBF   Jul-09-08 04:05 PM   #22 
  - How do you get universal health care in only 3 months?  SoCalDem   Jul-09-08 04:10 PM   #23 
  - You mean you can't just move there and get "free" health care  Common Sense Party   Jul-09-08 04:14 PM   #25 
  - Yes, free  lynyrd_skynyrd   Jul-09-08 04:44 PM   #37 
  - Nothing is free. Somebody pays for it.  Common Sense Party   Jul-09-08 04:49 PM   #38 
     - Economics 101, good for you. But if the risk is spread out evenly across  file83   Jul-10-08 12:01 AM   #80 
     - They meant "free at the point of service" n/t  eridani   Jul-10-08 08:54 AM   #93 
        - I guess so, but my PPO plan is free at the point of service, as well.  Common Sense Party   Jul-10-08 10:24 AM   #104 
           - You pay too much for your plan because you are in a fragmented risk pool  eridani   Jul-11-08 12:30 AM   #135 
  - No, you can't  Oregone   Jul-09-08 05:08 PM   #46 
  - I have to apply  Oregone   Jul-09-08 04:31 PM   #33 
  - In bocca al lupo!  Book Lover   Jul-09-08 04:13 PM   #24 
  - I want to be able to say I tried my best before giving up  kpominville   Jul-09-08 04:17 PM   #26 
  - Where are you headed?  Indenturedebtor   Jul-09-08 04:17 PM   #27 
  - Leaving Oregon. Hugs, honey. I wish you well.  roguevalley   Jul-09-08 04:30 PM   #31 
  - Im taking a ferry...  Oregone   Jul-09-08 05:11 PM   #47 
     - Right on thanks for sharing :D  Indenturedebtor   Jul-09-08 05:37 PM   #51 
     - Was just out at Point No Point.  screembloodymurder   Jul-09-08 07:19 PM   #62 
     - But don't you need either a job lined up or like 10 grand in the bank?  Zhade   Jul-10-08 01:12 AM   #83 
        - You must have 15K CAN in the bank, but as for the job...  Oregone   Jul-10-08 01:22 AM   #84 
  - I envy you  Neo   Jul-09-08 04:27 PM   #28 
  - You say you're leaving, but you don't say where.  Husb2Sparkly   Jul-09-08 04:29 PM   #29 
  - Well, it wasn't my point of emphasis  Oregone   Jul-09-08 05:14 PM   #48 
     - Poor mood?  pengillian101   Jul-10-08 05:12 PM   #119 
  - You aren't a coward, Oregone. You're thoughtful, courageous, and forward thinking.  RufusTFirefly   Jul-09-08 04:29 PM   #30 
  - I Feel Exactly The Same Way  EconomyCollapsesInUS   Jul-09-08 04:31 PM   #32 
  - I nominate this thread for the DU Classic Hall of Fame! K&R!!!  BeHereNow   Jul-09-08 04:32 PM   #34 
  - Good luck, wherever you go.  kenny blankenship   Jul-09-08 04:36 PM   #35 
  - Good luck. n/t  geomon666   Jul-09-08 04:38 PM   #36 
  - Congratulations and good luck!  RidinMyDonkey   Jul-09-08 04:55 PM   #41 
  - Happy trails!  ForrestGump   Jul-09-08 05:03 PM   #43 
  - BTW, Thanks everyone for their positive wishes!  Oregone   Jul-09-08 05:16 PM   #49 
  - I hear you, and wish you well, but the United States will always be home...  KrazyKat   Jul-09-08 05:29 PM   #50 
  - If we were younger, we might be doing the same thing.  OurVotesCount-Ohio   Jul-09-08 05:40 PM   #52 
  - I sympathize. The best of luck to you and your family.  Joe Fields   Jul-09-08 06:10 PM   #54 
  - It's a big world out there. Lots of nice places to live. None of them are perfect.  tabasco   Jul-09-08 06:22 PM   #58 
  - What you may of missed about my unsubstantiated 'premise'...  Oregone   Jul-09-08 07:28 PM   #64 
  - Ok, I'm totally envious. Hubby & I have been throwing around the idea of moving to Vancouver Island  TheGoldenRule   Jul-09-08 07:32 PM   #66 
  - Good luck on figuring out your situation...  Oregone   Jul-09-08 07:37 PM   #68 
     - Thank you for replying. Maybe we should be looking at a wee bit of land instead....  TheGoldenRule   Jul-09-08 07:43 PM   #70 
  - Lovely post, and the sentiment is well understood. Best of luck and congrats.  NRaleighLiberal   Jul-09-08 08:23 PM   #71 
  - Don't let the door hit you in the ass! nt  JamesA1102   Jul-09-08 08:26 PM   #72 
  - I wont, thanks!  Oregone   Jul-09-08 10:19 PM   #77 
  - BC is beautiful! I envy you... But it doesn't mean you have to stop posting here!  glitch   Jul-09-08 08:40 PM   #73 
  - Best of luck to you!  NC_Nurse   Jul-09-08 08:47 PM   #74 
  - You picked the wrong time to leave.  BullGooseLoony   Jul-09-08 08:49 PM   #75 
  - Turn around or not,  Oregone   Jul-09-08 10:24 PM   #78 
  - Not far behind you, my friend. Best wishes for your safe journey.  Zhade   Jul-10-08 01:08 AM   #82 
  - Good luck in your quest  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-10-08 01:30 AM   #85 
  - You have the opportunity to increase the scope of your life. Take it! Enjoy it!  Solly Mack   Jul-10-08 03:16 AM   #88 
  - Wishing you all the best!  Mind_your_head   Jul-10-08 03:21 AM   #89 
  - Right behind you, but with a longer journey.  greyhound1966   Jul-10-08 03:40 AM   #91 
  - Best of luck to you and the family. I have similar thoughts of  anitar1   Jul-10-08 04:15 AM   #92 
  - The concept of "buy low, sell high" seems to be lost here, but good luck to you anyway!  slackmaster   Jul-10-08 08:55 AM   #94 
  - Good luck to you. We've been contemplating leaving since 2004  LibraLiz1973   Jul-10-08 08:59 AM   #95 
  - Good luck to you. Try not to lecture to the strangers where ever you end up.  kdpeters   Jul-10-08 09:06 AM   #96 
  - Thanks for the advice  Oregone   Jul-10-08 09:50 AM   #101 
  - The best of love, peace & happiness to you and yours!  LynnTheDem   Jul-10-08 09:15 AM   #97 
  - Good luck...  redqueen   Jul-10-08 09:41 AM   #100 
  - We leave September 11th for our move to Europe.  janesez   Jul-10-08 10:08 AM   #103 
  - I wish you well.  Delphinus   Jul-10-08 10:56 AM   #105 
  - Congrats and good luck. A few years ago my husband got an opportunity  grace0418   Jul-10-08 11:39 AM   #107 
  - Congrats.  MattSh   Jul-10-08 01:33 PM   #109 
  - This Oregonian wishes you all the best  pollo poco   Jul-10-08 03:47 PM   #113 
  - Good luck, Oregone!  NJCher   Jul-10-08 03:48 PM   #114 
  - I would be long gone, 'cept for this chain around my ankle  Journalgrrl   Jul-10-08 04:59 PM   #117 
  - Live long and Prosper, my friend  Taverner   Jul-10-08 05:02 PM   #118 
  - you're right to be seeking something better of course  marions ghost   Jul-10-08 05:54 PM   #120 
  - Pay no attention to the naysayers  Lydia Leftcoast   Jul-10-08 06:13 PM   #121 
  - The new world order chose Bush to begin the new trend cycle, no-shit!  Imagevision   Jul-10-08 06:16 PM   #122 
  - God Save The Queen!  TahitiNut   Jul-10-08 06:52 PM   #130 
  - bye, best of luck! keep in touch!  NuttyFluffers   Jul-10-08 06:59 PM   #131 
  - Good Luck! I'll be joining you in BC in about 18 mos.  Fiendish Thingy   Jul-10-08 10:16 PM   #132 
  - Great to hear that you are coming too!  Oregone   Jul-11-08 06:23 PM   #150 
  - It's all about "you." I hope "you" are happy.  EbenezerMcIntosh   Jul-10-08 10:50 PM   #133 
  - Well, yah. It is.  baby_mouse   Jul-11-08 05:34 AM   #138 
  - That's sort of a point I'm getting at...  Oregone   Jul-13-08 08:58 PM   #160 
  - Oregone, all the best, and I hope you will love your new home.  old mark   Jul-11-08 06:34 AM   #139 
  - I have toyed with the idea of moving to Europe but never really did anything about it  LSK   Jul-11-08 12:03 PM   #141 
  - vancouver island  mrs_p   Jul-11-08 12:52 PM   #144 
  - Good luck in Canada, you have few surprises coming your way.  smitty   Jul-11-08 01:27 PM   #146 
  - "Perhaps you'll also lose some of your disdain for your fellow Americans"  Oregone   Jul-11-08 06:18 PM   #149 
     - did I see your stuff on craigslist?  grasswire   Jul-11-08 06:43 PM   #153 
        - Not me...  Oregone   Jul-11-08 07:42 PM   #154 
  - Bon Voyage  BooScout   Jul-11-08 06:37 PM   #152 
  - New Zealand looks appealing  bambino   Jul-11-08 07:44 PM   #155 
  - Wait a minute. Don't they have high-speed internet in Vancouver?  NNN0LHI   Jul-12-08 01:13 PM   #157 
     - Haha  Oregone   Jul-13-08 11:32 AM   #158 
 

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