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Wed Jul-09-08 11:46 AM
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| 60. Obama Aye on this one??? |
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I thought I heard a yes but it was low.
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| -***OFFICIAL FISA THREAD 4 *** (Specter's amendment (I think) up for vote) |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:27 AM |
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Our nation is screwn. |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:28 AM |
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Hughly. Rec 4 |
helderheid |
Jul-09-08 11:38 AM |
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I'm nervous. |
redirish28 |
Jul-09-08 11:28 AM |
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If all the amendments are defeated, we have reason to be nervous. |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:30 AM |
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not true. only those deemed "electable" have a problem with right and |
davidwparker |
Jul-09-08 11:46 AM |
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yep, Specter amdmt. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:29 AM |
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Reading of names .... |
Breeze54 |
Jul-09-08 11:29 AM |
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I just started thread 4? |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:30 AM |
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I think they started the same time - sure gateley wasn't trying to diss you. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:30 AM |
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no problem, deleted mine |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:31 AM |
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EDIT -- just saw you deleted yours. |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:32 AM |
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no, lets stay here |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:33 AM |
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This amendment would give telecom immunity or take it out. I'm confused |
redirish28 |
Jul-09-08 11:30 AM |
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neither |
Crabby Appleton |
Jul-09-08 11:34 AM |
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Thanks... |
redirish28 |
Jul-09-08 11:58 AM |
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Biden, Cantwell, Leahy, AYE |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:31 AM |
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so is the take that this is better than not having it - at least some restrictions? nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:31 AM |
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I think it's moot... The AG can dismiss any lawsuits he see's fit. |
Breeze54 |
Jul-09-08 11:33 AM |
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They would rather be called weak on the Constitution than weak on defense... |
kentuck |
Jul-09-08 11:32 AM |
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That about sums it up :(( n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:34 AM |
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Heavy and profound and accurate statement. I'm so disgusted. nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:35 AM |
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This wont pass either. Lots of No votes. |
thewiseguy |
Jul-09-08 11:32 AM |
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Specter amendment....text below |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:32 AM |
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Bingaman amendment next....text below |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:33 AM |
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so is this immunity on civil, criminal, or both? nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:33 AM |
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civil immunity only(nt) |
Jersey Devil |
Jul-09-08 11:34 AM |
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thanks - moot now that it failed. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:35 AM |
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Civil, criminal immunity was NEVER proposed n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:36 AM |
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They don't need criminal immunity |
bamalib |
Jul-09-08 12:00 PM |
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True, who will charge them with a crime :( n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 12:22 PM |
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so if a court approved the wiretapping then no lawsuits??? |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:34 AM |
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The Retroactive Immunity Amendment didn't pass. |
Breeze54 |
Jul-09-08 11:35 AM |
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Attempts to limit immunity.... |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:43 AM |
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Feinstein "no" (nt) |
Jersey Devil |
Jul-09-08 11:33 AM |
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final vote 37-61 |
Jersey Devil |
Jul-09-08 11:35 AM |
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ANyone know about this next amendment that's coming up for a vote? nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:35 AM |
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slipsliding's post above. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:36 AM |
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Thx. nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:38 AM |
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Bingaman, co-sponsored by Feinstein |
Jersey Devil |
Jul-09-08 11:36 AM |
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Feinstein's name on it makes me nervous. nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:39 AM |
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Bingaman Amendment #5066 |
Crabby Appleton |
Jul-09-08 11:37 AM |
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This Amdt allows the Telecoms to go into CT & get cases dismissed & then investigate. bassackwards! |
Breeze54 |
Jul-09-08 11:37 AM |
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God. Thanks. nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:39 AM |
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did Obama vote on this one? |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:35 AM |
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must have - only McCain and Kennedy missing at 98 total? nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:36 AM |
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He voted aye. |
SharonRB |
Jul-09-08 11:36 AM |
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With the 61-37 count, yes he did. |
thewiseguy |
Jul-09-08 11:36 AM |
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I think I heard an "aye" vote for Obama on this Amendment.. |
kentuck |
Jul-09-08 11:37 AM |
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What? |
SharonRB |
Jul-09-08 11:36 AM |
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So the bill of rights will offically die today..... |
redirish28 |
Jul-09-08 11:36 AM |
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well, one amendment at a time but this one will help kill # 1 |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:38 AM |
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Didn't the Military commisions act of 2006 kill the other 9? |
redirish28 |
Jul-09-08 11:44 AM |
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oh, you're probably right, I haven't paid enough attention until recently. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:46 AM |
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its been slowly dying for 7 years now... |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:38 AM |
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Yup... this is just the latest whack at it. |
redqueen |
Jul-09-08 11:45 AM |
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Bingaman wants the current investigations to continue |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:37 AM |
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This, too, would be better than nothing |
SharonRB |
Jul-09-08 11:37 AM |
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These Senators for the most part obviously didn't attend Catholic school. |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:38 AM |
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isn't there a Senate Whip somewhere? kidding... nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:38 AM |
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A ruler and a woman draped in a habit with a rustling rosary is all that's needed. nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:41 AM |
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... |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:42 AM |
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Was he standing next to a tall, black skinny guy? :-) |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:46 AM |
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no - actually, Obama is another one I can pick out of the crowd, but not due to clothing! nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:48 AM |
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5th rec. Vote on 3rd amendment up now. |
Jesuswasntafascist |
Jul-09-08 11:40 AM |
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why can't c-span get a vote ticker at the bottom like they do sports scores? nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:42 AM |
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That's one of the worthy recipients to whom I would send $$$ if I had any. |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:44 AM |
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We want a vote ticker!!! |
MadrasT |
Jul-09-08 11:46 AM |
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We need some gimmick to get more people to pay attention - I'm reaching here. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:47 AM |
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I think the House has one |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:48 AM |
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Obama Aye on this one??? |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:46 AM |
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Yes he did, as did Clinton and Webb |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:49 AM |
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roll call results of Dodd amdt vote already up |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:47 AM |
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self delete (oops) |
MadrasT |
Jul-09-08 11:49 AM |
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Thanks! nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:50 AM |
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That was quick... |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:52 AM |
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you again! you're on top of this - very helpful! :) |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:53 AM |
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I try :) n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:57 AM |
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hey everyone what is going on with the votes??? |
alyce douglas |
Jul-09-08 11:50 AM |
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they're almost done. Lieberman no, McCaskill no. |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:51 AM |
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Lieberman "no" |
SharonRB |
Jul-09-08 11:51 AM |
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thanks - I mistook him not voting no yet for voting yes and heard it right as it posted. |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:52 AM |
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lieberman voted no |
notadmblnd |
Jul-09-08 11:51 AM |
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We need the pitchforks and torches :( n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:51 AM |
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Flamethrowers would be more appropriate. |
MadrasT |
Jul-09-08 11:52 AM |
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I'll bring the tar and feathers! |
Jesuswasntafascist |
Jul-09-08 11:54 AM |
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that's going to be an expensive big batch of tar! nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:56 AM |
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Only two that didn't vote in the first Amendment was McCain and Kennedy |
redirish28 |
Jul-09-08 11:50 AM |
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And we wondered why the Germans followed Hitler ?? |
kentuck |
Jul-09-08 11:52 AM |
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Fascist America, in 10 easy steps - Naomi Wolf |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:55 AM |
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Thanks for posting that here. |
redqueen |
Jul-09-08 11:57 AM |
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YW, the thread from last night could use a K&R... |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 12:06 PM |
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No need to beg! |
redqueen |
Jul-09-08 12:11 PM |
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And thank you, I'll add the video link as well for those who have |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 12:13 PM |
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we must not let them do this to us. |
alyce douglas |
Jul-09-08 12:05 PM |
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But they are, one important point IMO that Naomi made during |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 12:12 PM |
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so I guess that makes us the "Good Americans" |
alyce douglas |
Jul-09-08 12:03 PM |
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Anyone know how many "ayes" we've got? |
SharonRB |
Jul-09-08 11:53 AM |
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It was just defeated. nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:55 AM |
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Yup -- I heard |
SharonRB |
Jul-09-08 11:56 AM |
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It's so discouraging. nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:57 AM |
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Bingamen/Feingold fails 42-56 |
Jersey Devil |
Jul-09-08 11:54 AM |
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strike 3 on the amendments, break for lunch and Helms funeral |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:55 AM |
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so vote on the whole bill (no amendments) delayed to 2:15 due to Helms funeral and repub caucus. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:55 AM |
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Forget it. I'm going to listen to the SFRC hearing on Iran instead. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:56 AM |
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Me, too - thanks for the reminder! Should be informative and interesting! nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:57 AM |
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here's the link - hoping they do livestream there as usual. |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:58 AM |
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Thanks -- I just PM'd you asking for it -- so ignore! nt WAVE |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 12:02 PM |
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pasted the wrong link - use the committee page one this afternoon (2:30?) |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 12:03 PM |
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Thanks for the link and there might be some useful information |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 12:02 PM |
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corrected my link - had the future archive - live will be off committe page |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 12:03 PM |
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Thanks :) n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 12:07 PM |
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Gee. Wonder how that vote will go *voice dripping with sarcasm* |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:56 AM |
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I'm waiting in suspense. |
Breeze54 |
Jul-09-08 12:03 PM |
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hey breeze54!! |
alyce douglas |
Jul-09-08 12:07 PM |
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Especially Obama since he said he'd be voting for it -- |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 01:19 PM |
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So I ask you ?? |
kentuck |
Jul-09-08 12:21 PM |
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what is going on with the votes. |
alyce douglas |
Jul-09-08 12:32 PM |
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delay for Helms memorial |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 12:42 PM |
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back with coverage on c-span 2 |
Dferguson |
Jul-09-08 01:18 PM |
#113 |
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