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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:32 AM
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14. This wont pass either. Lots of No votes.
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  -***OFFICIAL FISA THREAD 4 *** (Specter's amendment (I think) up for vote) gateley  Jul-09-08 11:27 AM   #0 
  - Our nation is screwn.  robinlynne   Jul-09-08 11:28 AM   #1 
  - Hughly. Rec 4  helderheid   Jul-09-08 11:38 AM   #44 
  - I'm nervous.  redirish28   Jul-09-08 11:28 AM   #2 
  - If all the amendments are defeated, we have reason to be nervous.  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:30 AM   #7 
     - not true. only those deemed "electable" have a problem with right and  davidwparker   Jul-09-08 11:46 AM   #62 
  - yep, Specter amdmt. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:29 AM   #3 
  - Reading of names ....  Breeze54   Jul-09-08 11:29 AM   #4 
  - I just started thread 4?  LSK   Jul-09-08 11:30 AM   #5 
  - I think they started the same time - sure gateley wasn't trying to diss you. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:30 AM   #8 
  - no problem, deleted mine  LSK   Jul-09-08 11:31 AM   #10 
  - EDIT -- just saw you deleted yours.  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:32 AM   #12 
     - no, lets stay here  LSK   Jul-09-08 11:33 AM   #16 
  - This amendment would give telecom immunity or take it out. I'm confused  redirish28   Jul-09-08 11:30 AM   #6 
  - neither  Crabby Appleton   Jul-09-08 11:34 AM   #22 
     - Thanks...  redirish28   Jul-09-08 11:58 AM   #96 
  - Biden, Cantwell, Leahy, AYE  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:31 AM   #9 
  - so is the take that this is better than not having it - at least some restrictions? nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:31 AM   #11 
  - I think it's moot... The AG can dismiss any lawsuits he see's fit.  Breeze54   Jul-09-08 11:33 AM   #19 
  - They would rather be called weak on the Constitution than weak on defense...  kentuck   Jul-09-08 11:32 AM   #13 
  - That about sums it up :(( n/t  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 11:34 AM   #23 
  - Heavy and profound and accurate statement. I'm so disgusted. nt  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:35 AM   #25 
  - This wont pass either. Lots of No votes.  thewiseguy   Jul-09-08 11:32 AM   #14 
  - Specter amendment....text below  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 11:32 AM   #15 
  - Bingaman amendment next....text below  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 11:33 AM   #17 
  - so is this immunity on civil, criminal, or both? nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:33 AM   #20 
  - civil immunity only(nt)  Jersey Devil   Jul-09-08 11:34 AM   #24 
  - thanks - moot now that it failed. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:35 AM   #26 
  - Civil, criminal immunity was NEVER proposed n/t  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 11:36 AM   #32 
     - They don't need criminal immunity  bamalib   Jul-09-08 12:00 PM   #97 
        - True, who will charge them with a crime :( n/t  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 12:22 PM   #110 
  - so if a court approved the wiretapping then no lawsuits???  LSK   Jul-09-08 11:34 AM   #21 
     - The Retroactive Immunity Amendment didn't pass.  Breeze54   Jul-09-08 11:35 AM   #30 
     - Attempts to limit immunity....  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 11:43 AM   #54 
  - Feinstein "no" (nt)  Jersey Devil   Jul-09-08 11:33 AM   #18 
  - final vote 37-61  Jersey Devil   Jul-09-08 11:35 AM   #27 
  - ANyone know about this next amendment that's coming up for a vote? nt  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:35 AM   #28 
  - slipsliding's post above. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:36 AM   #31 
  - Thx. nt  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:38 AM   #46 
  - Bingaman, co-sponsored by Feinstein  Jersey Devil   Jul-09-08 11:36 AM   # 
  - Feinstein's name on it makes me nervous. nt  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:39 AM   #48 
  - Bingaman Amendment #5066  Crabby Appleton   Jul-09-08 11:37 AM   #39 
  - This Amdt allows the Telecoms to go into CT & get cases dismissed & then investigate. bassackwards!  Breeze54   Jul-09-08 11:37 AM   #41 
     - God. Thanks. nt  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:39 AM   #49 
  - did Obama vote on this one?  LSK   Jul-09-08 11:35 AM   #29 
  - must have - only McCain and Kennedy missing at 98 total? nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:36 AM   #34 
  - He voted aye.  SharonRB   Jul-09-08 11:36 AM   #35 
  - With the 61-37 count, yes he did.  thewiseguy   Jul-09-08 11:36 AM   #37 
  - I think I heard an "aye" vote for Obama on this Amendment..  kentuck   Jul-09-08 11:37 AM   #38 
  - What?  SharonRB   Jul-09-08 11:36 AM   #33 
  - So the bill of rights will offically die today.....  redirish28   Jul-09-08 11:36 AM   #36 
  - well, one amendment at a time but this one will help kill # 1  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:38 AM   # 
  - Didn't the Military commisions act of 2006 kill the other 9?  redirish28   Jul-09-08 11:44 AM   #56 
     - oh, you're probably right, I haven't paid enough attention until recently. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:46 AM   #58 
  - its been slowly dying for 7 years now...  LSK   Jul-09-08 11:38 AM   #45 
     - Yup... this is just the latest whack at it.  redqueen   Jul-09-08 11:45 AM   #57 
  - Bingaman wants the current investigations to continue  LSK   Jul-09-08 11:37 AM   #40 
  - This, too, would be better than nothing  SharonRB   Jul-09-08 11:37 AM   #42 
  - These Senators for the most part obviously didn't attend Catholic school.  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:38 AM   #43 
  - isn't there a Senate Whip somewhere? kidding... nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:38 AM   #47 
     - A ruler and a woman draped in a habit with a rustling rosary is all that's needed. nt  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:41 AM   #51 
        - ...  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:42 AM   #53 
           - Was he standing next to a tall, black skinny guy? :-)  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:46 AM   #59 
              - no - actually, Obama is another one I can pick out of the crowd, but not due to clothing! nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:48 AM   #65 
  - 5th rec. Vote on 3rd amendment up now.  Jesuswasntafascist   Jul-09-08 11:40 AM   #50 
  - why can't c-span get a vote ticker at the bottom like they do sports scores? nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:42 AM   #52 
  - That's one of the worthy recipients to whom I would send $$$ if I had any.  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:44 AM   #55 
  - We want a vote ticker!!!  MadrasT   Jul-09-08 11:46 AM   #61 
  - We need some gimmick to get more people to pay attention - I'm reaching here. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:47 AM   #64 
  - I think the House has one  LSK   Jul-09-08 11:48 AM   #66 
  - Obama Aye on this one???  LSK   Jul-09-08 11:46 AM   #60 
  - Yes he did, as did Clinton and Webb  LSK   Jul-09-08 11:49 AM   #68 
  - roll call results of Dodd amdt vote already up  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:47 AM   #63 
  - self delete (oops)  MadrasT   Jul-09-08 11:49 AM   #67 
  - Thanks! nt  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:50 AM   #69 
  - That was quick...  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 11:52 AM   #78 
     - you again! you're on top of this - very helpful! :)  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:53 AM   #81 
        - I try :) n/t  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 11:57 AM   # 
  - hey everyone what is going on with the votes???  alyce douglas   Jul-09-08 11:50 AM   #70 
  - they're almost done. Lieberman no, McCaskill no.  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:51 AM   #72 
  - Lieberman "no"  SharonRB   Jul-09-08 11:51 AM   #74 
  - thanks - I mistook him not voting no yet for voting yes and heard it right as it posted.  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:52 AM   #79 
  - lieberman voted no  notadmblnd   Jul-09-08 11:51 AM   #75 
  - We need the pitchforks and torches :( n/t  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 11:51 AM   #73 
  - Flamethrowers would be more appropriate.  MadrasT   Jul-09-08 11:52 AM   #77 
  - I'll bring the tar and feathers!  Jesuswasntafascist   Jul-09-08 11:54 AM   #82 
     - that's going to be an expensive big batch of tar! nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:56 AM   #91 
  - Only two that didn't vote in the first Amendment was McCain and Kennedy  redirish28   Jul-09-08 11:50 AM   #71 
  - And we wondered why the Germans followed Hitler ??  kentuck   Jul-09-08 11:52 AM   #76 
  - Fascist America, in 10 easy steps - Naomi Wolf  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 11:55 AM   #87 
  - Thanks for posting that here.  redqueen   Jul-09-08 11:57 AM   #93 
  - YW, the thread from last night could use a K&R...  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 12:06 PM   #104 
     - No need to beg!  redqueen   Jul-09-08 12:11 PM   #106 
        - And thank you, I'll add the video link as well for those who have  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 12:13 PM   #108 
  - we must not let them do this to us.  alyce douglas   Jul-09-08 12:05 PM   #103 
     - But they are, one important point IMO that Naomi made during  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 12:12 PM   #107 
  - so I guess that makes us the "Good Americans"  alyce douglas   Jul-09-08 12:03 PM   # 
  - Anyone know how many "ayes" we've got?  SharonRB   Jul-09-08 11:53 AM   #80 
  - It was just defeated. nt  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:55 AM   #86 
     - Yup -- I heard  SharonRB   Jul-09-08 11:56 AM   #89 
        - It's so discouraging. nt  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:57 AM   #94 
  - Bingamen/Feingold fails 42-56  Jersey Devil   Jul-09-08 11:54 AM   #83 
  - strike 3 on the amendments, break for lunch and Helms funeral  LSK   Jul-09-08 11:55 AM   #84 
  - so vote on the whole bill (no amendments) delayed to 2:15 due to Helms funeral and repub caucus. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:55 AM   #85 
  - Forget it. I'm going to listen to the SFRC hearing on Iran instead. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:56 AM   #88 
  - Me, too - thanks for the reminder! Should be informative and interesting! nt  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:57 AM   #92 
     - here's the link - hoping they do livestream there as usual.  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 11:58 AM   #95 
        - Thanks -- I just PM'd you asking for it -- so ignore! nt WAVE  gateley   Jul-09-08 12:02 PM   #98 
        - pasted the wrong link - use the committee page one this afternoon (2:30?)  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 12:03 PM   #102 
        - Thanks for the link and there might be some useful information  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 12:02 PM   #99 
           - corrected my link - had the future archive - live will be off committe page  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 12:03 PM   #100 
              - Thanks :) n/t  slipslidingaway   Jul-09-08 12:07 PM   # 
  - Gee. Wonder how that vote will go *voice dripping with sarcasm*  gateley   Jul-09-08 11:56 AM   #90 
     - I'm waiting in suspense.  Breeze54   Jul-09-08 12:03 PM   #101 
        - hey breeze54!!  alyce douglas   Jul-09-08 12:07 PM   #105 
        - Especially Obama since he said he'd be voting for it --  gateley   Jul-09-08 01:19 PM   #114 
  - So I ask you ??  kentuck   Jul-09-08 12:21 PM   #109 
  - what is going on with the votes.  alyce douglas   Jul-09-08 12:32 PM   #111 
  - delay for Helms memorial  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-09-08 12:42 PM   #112 
  - back with coverage on c-span 2  Dferguson   Jul-09-08 01:18 PM   #113 
 

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