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Wed Jul-09-08 11:25 AM
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| 104. I know, but I'm so disappointed in our "representatives" seemingly not |
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caring about what's right and wrong. Sigh.
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| -****OFFICIAL FISA THREAD 3**** (They're voting on the Dodd/Feingold/Leahy amendment) |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:05 AM |
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Breaking Hard: Feingold votes for his Bill!!! |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:07 AM |
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Does anyone ever ask him to explain that? |
redqueen |
Jul-09-08 11:07 AM |
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"Mr. Feingold - Aye" - Specter voted "no" |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:07 AM |
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I didn't expect that atfer yesterday. But Specter always does that. |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:08 AM |
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I could have sworn just this morning he said he'd vote for all the amendments. nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:14 AM |
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Not watching, but would that be talk tough before the cameras and then |
davidwparker |
Jul-09-08 11:34 AM |
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Not holding out much hope here. |
redqueen |
Jul-09-08 11:07 AM |
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Mr. Sanders - aye :) |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:07 AM |
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I count 16 ayes, but not sure. anyone have a count? |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:07 AM |
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Obama votes Aye on Dodd - Feingold Amendment |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:08 AM |
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"Mr. Obama, Aye." |
TahitiNut |
Jul-09-08 11:08 AM |
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Do you mean... |
redqueen |
Jul-09-08 11:10 AM |
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Obama voted aye |
maddezmom |
Jul-09-08 11:08 AM |
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Obama Votes Aye... |
KharmaTrain |
Jul-09-08 11:08 AM |
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My C-Span screen says it needs 60 votes to pass |
philly_bob |
Jul-09-08 11:09 AM |
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ok. so if the ammendment fails, they CAN vote out the whole bill, right? |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:09 AM |
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Did I hear that right? Obama voted Aye for the Amendment? |
redirish28 |
Jul-09-08 11:09 AM |
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yes. But he didn't speak or help the filibuster. |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:09 AM |
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and I guess he's planning on voting yes on the whole thing, without the Dodd-Fgold amdmt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:10 AM |
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We shall see.... |
Breeze54 |
Jul-09-08 11:12 AM |
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i'm surprised. Last I heard he wasn't going to vote for the Amendment. |
redirish28 |
Jul-09-08 11:10 AM |
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I never heard that - he's always said he opposes the immunity provisions. |
TahitiNut |
Jul-09-08 11:12 AM |
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He always said he would. But, in final passage, he will vote for the bill even if the amendment is |
Mass |
Jul-09-08 11:13 AM |
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His position was ALWAYS to stip the telecom immunity provisions from the bill... |
Windy |
Jul-09-08 11:14 AM |
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He said he would vote for amendments to improve the bill, and would support the bill even if those |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jul-09-08 11:25 AM |
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the filibuster hasnt happened yet |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:15 AM |
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They voted on cloture back in June: |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jul-09-08 11:24 AM |
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K&R'd... Thanks, Gately ! |
Breeze54 |
Jul-09-08 11:09 AM |
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Biden - Aye! (That's my guy!) nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:09 AM |
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yay! nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:10 AM |
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rec 2! |
helderheid |
Jul-09-08 11:09 AM |
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Alot of No votes and Obama votes Aye |
thewiseguy |
Jul-09-08 11:10 AM |
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More Ayes than I thought there would be -- is there hope?? nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:10 AM |
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No. 60 Ayes are needed. |
thewiseguy |
Jul-09-08 11:11 AM |
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Clinton Aye?? I hear that? |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:10 AM |
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Yup. |
TahitiNut |
Jul-09-08 11:11 AM |
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Yep! nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:11 AM |
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I never got through to her office. |
redqueen |
Jul-09-08 11:11 AM |
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Clinton & Boxer... Aye ! |
Breeze54 |
Jul-09-08 11:11 AM |
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Webb voted no? wtf |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:11 AM |
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Follow the $$$.... |
Breeze54 |
Jul-09-08 11:13 AM |
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telecoms big in VA? nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:13 AM |
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Yup. Telecomm is big in Virgina. |
TahitiNut |
Jul-09-08 11:14 AM |
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WTF is right if true. Maybe I need to sit out the 2012 senate vote here in VA. |
davidwparker |
Jul-09-08 11:39 AM |
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Webb no? :( |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:11 AM |
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damnit |
helderheid |
Jul-09-08 11:12 AM |
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He's been a big proponent of telco immunity since he joined the Senate |
jgraz |
Jul-09-08 11:18 AM |
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Webb NO???? nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:11 AM |
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Webb was a life long republican and even voted for Bush for President |
Ichingcarpenter |
Jul-09-08 11:16 AM |
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Webb again votes no, just like he did in February :( n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:12 AM |
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February vote to strike immunity...link |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:15 AM |
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Menendez aye, Whitehouse aye |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:12 AM |
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McCaskill no??... Kerry aye! :) |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:13 AM |
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She changed her vote. Not a big surprise here. She is a Puke in Dems clothing. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jul-09-08 11:16 AM |
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McCaskill -- NO?? nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:13 AM |
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Huh? |
SharonRB |
Jul-09-08 11:15 AM |
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Sadly predictable |
MadHound |
Jul-09-08 11:19 AM |
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Hagel no :-( nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:14 AM |
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Does anyone know of a link I can go to that will have the vote published with ayes and nos |
redirish28 |
Jul-09-08 11:14 AM |
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go to the senate website |
Mass |
Jul-09-08 11:15 AM |
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thanks for the help.. Is it updated quickly? |
redirish28 |
Jul-09-08 11:19 AM |
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It will likey take at least an hour (and maybe two or three) |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jul-09-08 11:27 AM |
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It will be all over the internet in an hour or so my friend. |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:16 AM |
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Link will be updated later.... |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:16 AM |
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Feinstein. the b........... |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:14 AM |
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... |
thewiseguy |
Jul-09-08 11:15 AM |
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Salazar votes no! |
thewiseguy |
Jul-09-08 11:14 AM |
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Is anyone surprised? |
CrispyQGirl |
Jul-09-08 11:16 AM |
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How cool would it be if this passes, and the Nays only needed ONE MORE VOTE |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:15 AM |
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For the third time we need 60 Ayes and I would be surprised if we even broke 40 |
thewiseguy |
Jul-09-08 11:16 AM |
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I understand that - it's just a fantasy. nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:21 AM |
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in a real democracy, thisd crap wouldn't have a chance! |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:17 AM |
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That would be unbelievably cool. |
redqueen |
Jul-09-08 11:17 AM |
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Amendment failed. n/t |
Texas Explorer |
Jul-09-08 11:17 AM |
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32-66 :( nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:17 AM |
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as was predicted |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:19 AM |
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DAMNIT DAMNIT DAMNIT DAMNIT DAMNIT DAMNIT |
helderheid |
Jul-09-08 11:17 AM |
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This atrocity is going to pass. What are we going to do? |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-09-08 11:20 AM |
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We're Going To Elect Obama |
berni_mccoy |
Jul-09-08 11:26 AM |
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Sure. But I don't think that just caving from now until then |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-09-08 11:30 AM |
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If you call it caving in then you are not really supporting Obama. |
berni_mccoy |
Jul-09-08 11:40 AM |
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berni, I'm not talking about Obama. I'm talking about Congress. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-09-08 11:51 AM |
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Seems to me they are going the wrong way if they were trying to that..... |
nolabels |
Jul-09-08 11:40 AM |
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32 ayes 66 nos. |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:17 AM |
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Amerika is so screwed. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jul-09-08 11:17 AM |
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I still can't get the "Live" link to work on CSPAN |
SharonRB |
Jul-09-08 11:17 AM |
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try c-span 2 |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:18 AM |
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That's what I always use |
SharonRB |
Jul-09-08 11:19 AM |
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Oooooh |
SharonRB |
Jul-09-08 11:20 AM |
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How aggravating - |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:19 AM |
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Oh my god. I'm actually tearing up. This is heartbreaking. nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:18 AM |
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Let's keep in mind that this bill only affects civil lawsuits |
SharonRB |
Jul-09-08 11:18 AM |
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I know, but I'm so disappointed in our "representatives" seemingly not |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:25 AM |
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From my understanding we needed the ability to have civil suits. |
balantz |
Jul-09-08 11:38 AM |
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wow Arlene doesnt look that good |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:18 AM |
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I like what he's saying |
senseandsensibility |
Jul-09-08 11:19 AM |
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This senate has been out of order all morning! |
B Calm |
Jul-09-08 11:18 AM |
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Spectert is crazy. He jsut voted no and now he argues against immunity! |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:19 AM |
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and saying earlier and now more debate needed, yet voted no - wants his own amdt? |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:19 AM |
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obviously so. |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:21 AM |
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I don't want to sound rude but I honestly have to ask: |
redirish28 |
Jul-09-08 11:21 AM |
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there's Byrd in the background (I asked about him earlier) nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:20 AM |
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Oh - I'm so glad to hear he's actually there. nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:22 AM |
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PS -- Have you seen Joe? Who's he hanging with? nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:23 AM |
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my video screen is so little and fuzzy when voting - can only pick out women in colorful suits! |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:24 AM |
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Just wondered if he was in off-floor discussions with Obama... |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:25 AM |
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Is that Clinton in the red jacket? lol |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:26 AM |
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oh, and Bond in that yellow jacket and with the head tilt! nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:26 AM |
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Now what are they voting on? |
SharonRB |
Jul-09-08 11:21 AM |
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I think Specter has an amendment |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:21 AM |
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Is it a different one to strip immunity? |
SharonRB |
Jul-09-08 11:22 AM |
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As I understand it, Specter amendment delays immunity |
Jersey Devil |
Jul-09-08 11:24 AM |
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The Specter amendment calls for dismissing all active |
Texas Explorer |
Jul-09-08 11:22 AM |
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ack! nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:23 AM |
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No kidding. Well put. nt |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:26 AM |
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Specter amendment |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:22 AM |
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"requires lawsuits to be didsmissed unless a federal court finds the law has |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:23 AM |
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Which law? The one that made warrantless wiretapping illegal? |
Texas Explorer |
Jul-09-08 11:26 AM |
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5 months later they pick up ONE vote to srtike immunity... |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:21 AM |
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It's better than NO vote. |
berni_mccoy |
Jul-09-08 11:22 AM |
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Rockefeller is a real stand up guy. isn't he? |
senseandsensibility |
Jul-09-08 11:22 AM |
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roll-call on 2nd amendment - specter's - post from last thread |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Jul-09-08 11:22 AM |
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ok. now I'm hoping for this one to pass. It's something. |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:24 AM |
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depeding on who the federal judge is. They tend to be Bush appointees. |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:25 AM |
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Yup |
SharonRB |
Jul-09-08 11:25 AM |
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This ammendment doesn't amke sense. it just takes the lawsuits out of their jurisdicitons |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:27 AM |
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Thanks for reading :)) n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jul-09-08 11:26 AM |
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What is the Specter amendment? |
MiniMe |
Jul-09-08 11:24 AM |
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see thread above by Joel |
robinlynne |
Jul-09-08 11:25 AM |
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new thread time? |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:26 AM |
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thread 4 is up!! |
LSK |
Jul-09-08 11:27 AM |
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****THREAD 4***** |
gateley |
Jul-09-08 11:28 AM |
#118 |
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