Occam Bandage
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Tue Jul-08-08 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #6 |
| 11. You...you do accept the legitimacy of the passive tense in most terms, right? |
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Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 04:58 PM by Occam Bandage
The passive tense is a rather modern development in the English language, dating only a few centuries back. It's strange to see the seventeenth-century shock-and-horror over its usage in modern days, even if only limited to a handful of words.
Also, "hopefully" can be used as a sentence-level adjective, and "orientate" is a word.
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| -Pet Peeve: "irregardless" isn't a word! |
senseandsensibility |
Jul-08-08 04:48 PM |
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turn the asshole off....n/t |
Oceansaway |
Jul-08-08 04:49 PM |
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Regardless.... |
Aviation Pro |
Jul-08-08 04:49 PM |
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Boy, if that isn't an inflammable OP, I don't know what is! |
hedgehog |
Jul-08-08 04:49 PM |
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Heh. good one. |
exothermic |
Jul-08-08 04:51 PM |
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Sure it is. Prescriptivists suck. |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-08-08 04:49 PM |
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Here, as a bit of analogy: Have you ever said "up above?" Let's look at the etymology: |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-08-08 04:54 PM |
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"Prescriptivists suck" |
fishwax |
Jul-09-08 10:35 AM |
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It's even worse than "comprised of." Gawd, the idiocy is limitless. |
Redstone |
Jul-08-08 04:51 PM |
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Comprised of is improper? Please explain n/t |
Indenturedebtor |
Jul-08-08 04:54 PM |
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The several comprise the whole. The whole is COMPOSED OF the several. |
Redstone |
Jul-08-08 04:57 PM |
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Agreed. nt |
zanne |
Jul-09-08 07:05 AM |
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Use "composed of." |
TahitiNut |
Jul-08-08 04:58 PM |
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Or use "consists of." |
RebelOne |
Jul-09-08 06:06 AM |
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irregardless of how it's used :) |
comtec |
Jul-09-08 03:15 AM |
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You...you do accept the legitimacy of the passive tense in most terms, right? |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-08-08 04:56 PM |
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Huh? |
Redstone |
Jul-08-08 04:57 PM |
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If you can say, |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-08-08 05:01 PM |
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No, the unit is COMPOSED of the twenty soldiers. And you're welcome to your opinion, |
Redstone |
Jul-08-08 05:04 PM |
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...yes. That is one legitimate way of saying it. "Comprised" is another. There is no legitimate |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-08-08 05:08 PM |
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And there's a tiring repetition of the word "prescriptivism." Anyone uses such a word |
Redstone |
Jul-08-08 05:23 PM |
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Dear Redstone. You have just badly embarrassed yourself. |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-08-08 05:33 PM |
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And yet the passive is a voice, not a tense. |
igil |
Jul-08-08 08:18 PM |
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And now, a question about the use of "troops"... |
zanne |
Jul-09-08 07:08 AM |
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From the grammar manual |
RebelOne |
Jul-09-08 06:11 AM |
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Where did you get that book and who is the author? |
zanne |
Jul-09-08 07:09 AM |
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Crap. I'm guilty of that. :( |
Political Heretic |
Jul-09-08 02:01 PM |
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For almost a decade,a Twit.. |
jeff30997 |
Jul-08-08 04:54 PM |
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No. |
senseandsensibility |
Jul-08-08 05:00 PM |
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Ok then...I will type slooowly... |
jeff30997 |
Jul-08-08 05:08 PM |
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More importantly ... |
TahitiNut |
Jul-08-08 04:55 PM |
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Don't mean to be argumentative |
Popol Vuh |
Jul-08-08 04:56 PM |
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And yet... |
jeff30997 |
Jul-08-08 05:10 PM |
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That's not argmentative |
senseandsensibility |
Jul-08-08 05:10 PM |
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GDP? |
jeff30997 |
Jul-08-08 05:13 PM |
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It's a double negative. ARGGGHH! |
Perragrande |
Jul-08-08 06:45 PM |
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Yeah, but it has the same meaning as "regardless". How silly is that? nt |
Ilsa |
Jul-08-08 05:28 PM |
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Think about it and your argument unravels. |
igil |
Jul-08-08 08:23 PM |
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It is silly.....but |
Popol Vuh |
Jul-09-08 05:55 PM |
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Well whoop-dee-shit. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jul-08-08 04:58 PM |
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thank you!! |
TexasObserver |
Jul-08-08 05:11 PM |
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It's a word. |
AchtungToddler |
Jul-08-08 05:12 PM |
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It is a unit of language, comprised of morphemes, carrying meaning and possessing phonetical value. |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-08-08 05:15 PM |
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yes. I just didn't have those words ;) |
AchtungToddler |
Jul-08-08 06:00 PM |
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However, in places such as New Haven, where I live, you would be |
CTyankee |
Jul-08-08 07:49 PM |
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That's a social fact. |
igil |
Jul-08-08 08:26 PM |
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*shrug.* If you want to claim social dialect, sure. Nobody can argue with, |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-09-08 02:49 AM |
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OK, I'll check out what some of my Yalie friends have to say about such usage, |
CTyankee |
Jul-09-08 07:33 AM |
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Well, for one, you could tell them that you could use some help with reading. |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-09-08 09:55 AM |
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You are absolutely right. I had misread your post originally (I thought it sounded strange). |
CTyankee |
Jul-09-08 01:18 PM |
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That one's bugged me for along time. You know what else? I hate |
salguine |
Jul-08-08 05:38 PM |
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I've been seeing more of that lately, too. |
senseandsensibility |
Jul-08-08 07:47 PM |
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Damn you grammar nazi's! NT |
EOTE |
Jul-09-08 10:21 AM |
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That one... |
MadrasT |
Jul-09-08 06:22 PM |
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I use it constantly! |
chemp |
Jul-08-08 05:52 PM |
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Irritating people is always a good reason to do anything |
senseandsensibility |
Jul-08-08 07:45 PM |
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It's a great restaurant though...in Raleigh, NC! |
NC_Nurse |
Jul-08-08 07:40 PM |
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Pictures please. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-08-08 08:23 PM |
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Sorry, I don't have any... |
NC_Nurse |
Jul-09-08 07:04 AM |
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pics at site |
Lance_Boyle |
Jul-09-08 02:05 PM |
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Only elitists would use words correctably. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Jul-08-08 07:52 PM |
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I find it difficult to understand why one word uttered by a blockhead . . . |
papapi |
Jul-08-08 08:21 PM |
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It's a perfectly cromulent word |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jul-09-08 07:11 AM |
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then i guess that random house and webster's oughta take it out of their dictionaries... |
QuestionAll |
Jul-09-08 07:16 AM |
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How does anyone with such a username justify such an OP? |
sourmilk |
Jul-09-08 07:43 AM |
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Yeah. That bugs me alot. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jul-09-08 09:59 AM |
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'Elements of Style' should be a textbook |
LanternWaste |
Jul-09-08 10:12 AM |
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Wouldn't make a difference. |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-09-08 10:17 AM |
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Would it please the court if I added a qualifier? |
LanternWaste |
Jul-09-08 10:27 AM |
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Indeed |
Lifetimedem |
Jul-09-08 12:13 PM |
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It was mandatory at SJSU. |
BushDespiser12 |
Jul-09-08 01:22 PM |
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um, of course it's a word |
fishwax |
Jul-09-08 10:48 AM |
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You are a TEACHER? |
Lifetimedem |
Jul-09-08 10:58 AM |
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yes, of English |
fishwax |
Jul-09-08 11:04 AM |
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anything can be a "word" |
Lifetimedem |
Jul-09-08 12:07 PM |
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yes, that's pretty much what I said |
fishwax |
Jul-09-08 01:06 PM |
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Owned. |
Political Heretic |
Jul-09-08 02:06 PM |
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Unraveling |
Lifetimedem |
Jul-09-08 08:34 PM |
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yeah, I already said that about unraveling |
fishwax |
Jul-09-08 10:11 PM |
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This is from a dictionary on my computer... |
devilgrrl |
Jul-09-08 01:17 PM |
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I didn't say the word was standard |
fishwax |
Jul-09-08 02:17 PM |
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Thank you |
Lifetimedem |
Jul-09-08 10:55 AM |
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So is "conversate" but I hear it 20 times a day and from my boss! NT |
Snarkturian Clone |
Jul-09-08 11:00 AM |
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That is NOT a word. Please tell me that is not in the dictionary! nt |
ThruTheLookingGlass |
Jul-09-08 01:30 PM |
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It's AAVE |
Snarkturian Clone |
Jul-09-08 06:59 PM |
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"supposubly" he's a writer... |
michele77 |
Jul-09-08 11:00 AM |
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I cringe at that one too |
fishwax |
Jul-09-08 11:07 AM |
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How about this common error.. |
Lifetimedem |
Jul-09-08 12:10 PM |
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And there is no such thing as 'workahol', but we put the suffix -ic |
usnret88 |
Jul-09-08 01:57 PM |
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LOL |
senseandsensibility |
Jul-09-08 01:59 PM |
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I'm about to go get my workohol on :( |
Political Heretic |
Jul-09-08 02:07 PM |
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"Me fail English? That's unpossible!" |
Nevernose |
Jul-09-08 02:07 PM |
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Sleep, that's where I'm a viking! |
michele77 |
Jul-09-08 02:20 PM |
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Well Your Pet Peeve Is Dumb... Wrong Too... |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jul-09-08 06:15 PM |
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Pet Peeve: uptight bores! (n/t) |
batwing |
Jul-09-08 08:40 PM |
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