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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 04:54 PM
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9. Here, as a bit of analogy: Have you ever said "up above?" Let's look at the etymology:
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 05:02 PM by Occam Bandage
That's from O.E. "abufan," from "on" + bufan meaning "over," which is comprised of be "by" + ufan "over/high," with "ufan" deriving from something like up-on. "Above" literally means, "On by on up." "Up above" is "up on by on up." People like to emphasize by semantic reduplication. It's pretty common.
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  -Pet Peeve: "irregardless" isn't a word! senseandsensibility  Jul-08-08 04:48 PM   #0 
  - turn the asshole off....n/t  Oceansaway   Jul-08-08 04:49 PM   #1 
  - Regardless....  Aviation Pro   Jul-08-08 04:49 PM   #2 
  - Boy, if that isn't an inflammable OP, I don't know what is!  hedgehog   Jul-08-08 04:49 PM   #3 
  - Heh. good one.  exothermic   Jul-08-08 04:51 PM   #5 
  - Sure it is. Prescriptivists suck.  Occam Bandage   Jul-08-08 04:49 PM   #4 
  - Here, as a bit of analogy: Have you ever said "up above?" Let's look at the etymology:  Occam Bandage   Jul-08-08 04:54 PM   #9 
  - "Prescriptivists suck"  fishwax   Jul-09-08 10:35 AM   #63 
  - It's even worse than "comprised of." Gawd, the idiocy is limitless.  Redstone   Jul-08-08 04:51 PM   #6 
  - Comprised of is improper? Please explain n/t  Indenturedebtor   Jul-08-08 04:54 PM   #7 
  - The several comprise the whole. The whole is COMPOSED OF the several.  Redstone   Jul-08-08 04:57 PM   #13 
  - Agreed. nt  zanne   Jul-09-08 07:05 AM   #50 
  - Use "composed of."  TahitiNut   Jul-08-08 04:58 PM   #15 
  - Or use "consists of."  RebelOne   Jul-09-08 06:06 AM   #47 
  - irregardless of how it's used :)  comtec   Jul-09-08 03:15 AM   #46 
  - You...you do accept the legitimacy of the passive tense in most terms, right?  Occam Bandage   Jul-08-08 04:56 PM   #11 
  - Huh?  Redstone   Jul-08-08 04:57 PM   #14 
     - If you can say,  Occam Bandage   Jul-08-08 05:01 PM   #18 
        - No, the unit is COMPOSED of the twenty soldiers. And you're welcome to your opinion,  Redstone   Jul-08-08 05:04 PM   #19 
        - ...yes. That is one legitimate way of saying it. "Comprised" is another. There is no legitimate  Occam Bandage   Jul-08-08 05:08 PM   #20 
        - And there's a tiring repetition of the word "prescriptivism." Anyone uses such a word  Redstone   Jul-08-08 05:23 PM   #28 
           - Dear Redstone. You have just badly embarrassed yourself.  Occam Bandage   Jul-08-08 05:33 PM   #30 
              - And yet the passive is a voice, not a tense.  igil   Jul-08-08 08:18 PM   #40 
        - And now, a question about the use of "troops"...  zanne   Jul-09-08 07:08 AM   #51 
        - From the grammar manual  RebelOne   Jul-09-08 06:11 AM   #48 
           - Where did you get that book and who is the author?  zanne   Jul-09-08 07:09 AM   #52 
  - Crap. I'm guilty of that. :(  Political Heretic   Jul-09-08 02:01 PM   #81 
  - For almost a decade,a Twit..  jeff30997   Jul-08-08 04:54 PM   #8 
  - No.  senseandsensibility   Jul-08-08 05:00 PM   #17 
     - Ok then...I will type slooowly...  jeff30997   Jul-08-08 05:08 PM   #21 
  - More importantly ...  TahitiNut   Jul-08-08 04:55 PM   #10 
  - Don't mean to be argumentative  Popol Vuh   Jul-08-08 04:56 PM   #12 
  - And yet...  jeff30997   Jul-08-08 05:10 PM   #22 
  - That's not argmentative  senseandsensibility   Jul-08-08 05:10 PM   #23 
  - GDP?  jeff30997   Jul-08-08 05:13 PM   #26 
  - It's a double negative. ARGGGHH!  Perragrande   Jul-08-08 06:45 PM   #34 
  - Yeah, but it has the same meaning as "regardless". How silly is that? nt  Ilsa   Jul-08-08 05:28 PM   #29 
     - Think about it and your argument unravels.  igil   Jul-08-08 08:23 PM   #43 
     - It is silly.....but  Popol Vuh   Jul-09-08 05:55 PM   #88 
  - Well whoop-dee-shit.  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-08-08 04:58 PM   #16 
  - thank you!!  TexasObserver   Jul-08-08 05:11 PM   #24 
  - It's a word.  AchtungToddler   Jul-08-08 05:12 PM   #25 
  - It is a unit of language, comprised of morphemes, carrying meaning and possessing phonetical value.  Occam Bandage   Jul-08-08 05:15 PM   #27 
     - yes. I just didn't have those words ;)  AchtungToddler   Jul-08-08 06:00 PM   #33 
     - However, in places such as New Haven, where I live, you would be  CTyankee   Jul-08-08 07:49 PM   #38 
        - That's a social fact.  igil   Jul-08-08 08:26 PM   #44 
        - *shrug.* If you want to claim social dialect, sure. Nobody can argue with,  Occam Bandage   Jul-09-08 02:49 AM   #45 
           - OK, I'll check out what some of my Yalie friends have to say about such usage,  CTyankee   Jul-09-08 07:33 AM   #55 
              - Well, for one, you could tell them that you could use some help with reading.  Occam Bandage   Jul-09-08 09:55 AM   #57 
                 - You are absolutely right. I had misread your post originally (I thought it sounded strange).  CTyankee   Jul-09-08 01:18 PM   #76 
  - That one's bugged me for along time. You know what else? I hate  salguine   Jul-08-08 05:38 PM   #31 
  - I've been seeing more of that lately, too.  senseandsensibility   Jul-08-08 07:47 PM   #37 
  - Damn you grammar nazi's! NT  EOTE   Jul-09-08 10:21 AM   #61 
  - That one...  MadrasT   Jul-09-08 06:22 PM   #90 
  - I use it constantly!  chemp   Jul-08-08 05:52 PM   #32 
  - Irritating people is always a good reason to do anything  senseandsensibility   Jul-08-08 07:45 PM   #36 
  - It's a great restaurant though...in Raleigh, NC!  NC_Nurse   Jul-08-08 07:40 PM   #35 
  - Pictures please. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Jul-08-08 08:23 PM   #42 
     - Sorry, I don't have any...  NC_Nurse   Jul-09-08 07:04 AM   #49 
     - pics at site  Lance_Boyle   Jul-09-08 02:05 PM   #82 
  - Only elitists would use words correctably. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Jul-08-08 07:52 PM   #39 
  - I find it difficult to understand why one word uttered by a blockhead . . .  papapi   Jul-08-08 08:21 PM   #41 
  - It's a perfectly cromulent word  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-09-08 07:11 AM   #53 
  - then i guess that random house and webster's oughta take it out of their dictionaries...  QuestionAll   Jul-09-08 07:16 AM   #54 
  - How does anyone with such a username justify such an OP?  sourmilk   Jul-09-08 07:43 AM   #56 
  - Yeah. That bugs me alot.  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-09-08 09:59 AM   #58 
  - 'Elements of Style' should be a textbook  LanternWaste   Jul-09-08 10:12 AM   #59 
  - Wouldn't make a difference.  Occam Bandage   Jul-09-08 10:17 AM   #60 
  - Would it please the court if I added a qualifier?  LanternWaste   Jul-09-08 10:27 AM   #62 
     - Indeed  Lifetimedem   Jul-09-08 12:13 PM   #73 
  - It was mandatory at SJSU.  BushDespiser12   Jul-09-08 01:22 PM   #77 
  - um, of course it's a word  fishwax   Jul-09-08 10:48 AM   #64 
  - You are a TEACHER?  Lifetimedem   Jul-09-08 10:58 AM   #66 
  - yes, of English  fishwax   Jul-09-08 11:04 AM   #69 
     - anything can be a "word"  Lifetimedem   Jul-09-08 12:07 PM   #71 
        - yes, that's pretty much what I said  fishwax   Jul-09-08 01:06 PM   #74 
           - Owned.  Political Heretic   Jul-09-08 02:06 PM   #83 
           - Unraveling  Lifetimedem   Jul-09-08 08:34 PM   #92 
              - yeah, I already said that about unraveling  fishwax   Jul-09-08 10:11 PM   #94 
  - This is from a dictionary on my computer...  devilgrrl   Jul-09-08 01:17 PM   #75 
     - I didn't say the word was standard  fishwax   Jul-09-08 02:17 PM   #86 
  - Thank you  Lifetimedem   Jul-09-08 10:55 AM   #65 
  - So is "conversate" but I hear it 20 times a day and from my boss! NT  Snarkturian Clone   Jul-09-08 11:00 AM   #67 
  - That is NOT a word. Please tell me that is not in the dictionary! nt  ThruTheLookingGlass   Jul-09-08 01:30 PM   #78 
     - It's AAVE  Snarkturian Clone   Jul-09-08 06:59 PM   #91 
  - "supposubly" he's a writer...  michele77   Jul-09-08 11:00 AM   #68 
  - I cringe at that one too  fishwax   Jul-09-08 11:07 AM   #70 
  - How about this common error..  Lifetimedem   Jul-09-08 12:10 PM   #72 
  - And there is no such thing as 'workahol', but we put the suffix -ic  usnret88   Jul-09-08 01:57 PM   #79 
  - LOL  senseandsensibility   Jul-09-08 01:59 PM   #80 
  - I'm about to go get my workohol on :(  Political Heretic   Jul-09-08 02:07 PM   #85 
  - "Me fail English? That's unpossible!"  Nevernose   Jul-09-08 02:07 PM   #84 
  - Sleep, that's where I'm a viking!  michele77   Jul-09-08 02:20 PM   #87 
  - Well Your Pet Peeve Is Dumb... Wrong Too...  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-09-08 06:15 PM   #89 
  - Pet Peeve: uptight bores! (n/t)  batwing   Jul-09-08 08:40 PM   #93 
 

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