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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-01-08 01:17 AM
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91. This is why burgulary is as hazardous as running into oncoming traffic
Putting myself in Horn's situation I would be scared shitless even if they were running away. Yes he was certainly wrong, but I certainly would not want to see him convicted of murder.

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  -Man shoots, kills two, gets off scott free. This can only happen in Texas lynyrd_skynyrd  Jun-30-08 07:22 PM   #0 
  - how many threads on the same topic do we need?  delaware97   Jun-30-08 07:24 PM   #1 
  - 26.  Bluebear   Jul-01-08 01:33 AM   #92 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-30-08 07:24 PM   #2 
  - If they were white, the law WOULD give two shits about them.  Kristi1696   Jun-30-08 07:26 PM   #3 
  - Those Magic Eight Balls are magnificent.  pt22   Jun-30-08 07:31 PM   #8 
  - You don't need a magic 8 ball to know how this country works.  woolldog   Jun-30-08 11:43 PM   #69 
  - The real magic 8 ball in this case...  dmesg   Jul-01-08 12:45 AM   #77 
  - Exactly. "Y'all is just another n****ger what needs a good whoopin, Texas-style, boy". nt  georgia lass   Jul-01-08 12:48 AM   #81 
  - No. That's incorrect. In Texas the law is that you can shoot someone breaking into your home.  readmoreoften   Jul-01-08 02:27 AM   #96 
  - i didn't know that they  sweets   Jun-30-08 07:26 PM   #4 
  - That's an odd comment. What do you base that on?  jobycom   Jun-30-08 07:27 PM   #5 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-30-08 07:30 PM   #6 
     - I don't memorize posters, I judge each post on its own. This looked like a legit complaint to me.  jobycom   Jun-30-08 08:59 PM   #25 
     - Agreed  hokies4ever   Jun-30-08 10:42 PM   #52 
     - "Whining" - another piece of the puzzle.  Bluebear   Jul-01-08 02:44 AM   #98 
  - The guy shot 2 people IN THE BACK when they were on his NEIGHBOR'S property  hokies4ever   Jun-30-08 10:41 PM   #51 
  - Yeah, "in the back"  KansDem   Jul-01-08 09:10 AM   #116 
  - they were shot, and died, on Horn's property,  Lance_Boyle   Jul-01-08 10:55 AM   #132 
  - Holy trolly, what kind of racist idiocy is that?  Bluebear   Jul-01-08 01:33 AM   #93 
  - But are you suprised that the 2 "victims" had criminal pasts?  ben_meyers   Jun-30-08 07:30 PM   #7 
  - Yep, bastards had it comin'.  wtmusic   Jun-30-08 07:49 PM   #11 
  - Honest Judge, they needed killin'! n/t  cherokeeprogressive   Jun-30-08 07:57 PM   #14 
  - Maybe we should publish a "visitor's guide" for illegal aliens.  pt22   Jun-30-08 08:12 PM   #22 
     - Absolutely, tell them they 1) Might get shot in the back by a coward  wtmusic   Jun-30-08 09:07 PM   #26 
        - Yeah. It's another good reason not to break into houses. nt  dmesg   Jul-01-08 12:50 AM   #82 
        - It's good to know you support the death penalty for burglary.  EOTE   Jul-01-08 10:12 AM   #121 
           - I don't support the death penalty for any crime, actually  dmesg   Jul-01-08 10:23 AM   #125 
           - So what should become of the one who lived?  EOTE   Jul-01-08 10:25 AM   #127 
              - I could see maybe man 3. Maybe  dmesg   Jul-01-08 10:31 AM   #128 
           - my 2 cents, sorry they got killed, but every occupation has a down  okieinpain   Jul-02-08 08:26 AM   #145 
        - Sounds like that Texan who shot & killed a Repo man right out his upper story window. He walked too.  georgia lass   Jul-01-08 12:51 AM   #83 
  - I was waiting for this post  lynyrd_skynyrd   Jun-30-08 07:55 PM   #12 
  - Life is a series of choices, risks and rewards  ben_meyers   Jun-30-08 08:02 PM   #18 
  - You could say the same thing about them negra slaves  wtmusic   Jun-30-08 09:33 PM   #35 
  - So in AZ stolen property is worth more then two human lives, shot for nothing? YIKES!!!  georgia lass   Jul-01-08 12:54 AM   #85 
     - You do realize this happened in Texas, no? N/T  pipoman   Jul-01-08 06:19 AM   #103 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-30-08 08:13 PM   #23 
  - Criminal past? Who cares! What about criminal present?  Codeine   Jun-30-08 10:48 PM   #53 
  - they were victimizing someone else at the time  Lance_Boyle   Jul-01-08 10:58 AM   #134 
  - What evidence have you seen that horn was a "gun nut"?  beevul   Jul-02-08 04:05 PM   #155 
  - I'm amazed the murderer had time to find out their criminal pasts before murdering them.  jobycom   Jun-30-08 09:15 PM   #30 
     - No shit.  wtmusic   Jun-30-08 09:30 PM   #34 
     - Most criminals are recidivists...  Jack_DeLeon   Jun-30-08 11:15 PM   #59 
     - So the murderer is likely to murder again, since he won't be imprisoned. nice. nt  jobycom   Jul-01-08 12:40 AM   #75 
     - This burglary wasn't a violent crime. No one was in that house they stole from. Bubba Joe made a  georgia lass   Jul-01-08 01:03 AM   #89 
        - by threatening Joe when he confronted them...  Jack_DeLeon   Jul-01-08 02:00 AM   #95 
     - He's from Texas" "We is always right down heh in the lone star state" dontcha know..  georgia lass   Jul-01-08 12:46 AM   #79 
     - In fairness, it was their criminal present that concerned him  dmesg   Jul-01-08 01:00 AM   #88 
        - I understand that you're all for gunowner's rights and all...  zanne   Jul-01-08 07:57 AM   #106 
           - How little you know about my opinion  dmesg   Jul-01-08 08:12 AM   #107 
              - That's convoluted thinking and blaming the victims.  zanne   Jul-01-08 08:18 AM   #109 
                 - Oh, I see  dmesg   Jul-01-08 08:20 AM   #111 
                 - Now you're just knee-jerking and reacting emotionally.  zanne   Jul-01-08 08:23 AM   #112 
                    - Not at all  dmesg   Jul-01-08 08:27 AM   #114 
                 - Burglary often results in the burglars getting shot.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jul-01-08 11:22 AM   #137 
  - Hey, don't you have a thread about your other pet topic to visit?  mitchum   Jun-30-08 07:35 PM   #9 
  - Pet topic?  lynyrd_skynyrd   Jun-30-08 07:58 PM   #15 
     - Well, the legal system has concluded that they were not murdered...  mitchum   Jun-30-08 09:12 PM   #28 
     - I'm sure the two gentlemen considered that occupational hazard before...  mitchum   Jun-30-08 09:15 PM   #29 
     - No a bunch of idiots on a grand jury decided that.  alarimer   Jun-30-08 09:49 PM   #37 
        - That "bunch of idiots" is part of the legal system  mitchum   Jun-30-08 10:19 PM   #46 
        - And the cowards hide behind highly artificial definitions...  Orsino   Jul-01-08 05:38 PM   #141 
        - Wasn't the owner of the house that was robbed Vietnamees? nt  John Kerry VonErich   Jul-02-08 01:39 PM   #146 
     - Yes, I agree. lynrd_skynrd's OP was bullet proof. nt  zanne   Jul-01-08 08:24 AM   #113 
  - The names appear to be Hispanice and if so, they are white. See  jody   Jun-30-08 07:37 PM   #10 
  - Might want to look at that link again.  sl8   Jun-30-08 07:57 PM   #13 
  - I'm very familiar with the various definitions. The names suggest either Spanish ancestry meaning  jody   Jun-30-08 08:10 PM   #21 
  - Take a look at their photos. Do they look white to you?  lizzy   Jun-30-08 09:50 PM   #39 
     - Hispanics can be black, white, native american, or asian/pacific islander  dmesg   Jul-01-08 12:42 AM   #76 
     - My point is people often erroneously believe that people of spanish descent called hispanic as a  jody   Jul-01-08 07:43 AM   #105 
  - Texas, White guy kills two brown guys. Gets away with murder. Surprised? n/t  greyhound1966   Jun-30-08 07:59 PM   #16 
  - Texas. Man commits act well within the law. No murder. nt  Codeine   Jun-30-08 10:49 PM   #54 
  - Point made. n/t  greyhound1966   Jun-30-08 11:13 PM   #58 
  - Nope! nt  georgia lass   Jul-01-08 12:51 AM   #84 
  - Headline from the Sydney Morning Herald: "I'm going to shoot them"  depakid   Jun-30-08 08:00 PM   #17 
  - Man shot and killed two unarmed guys. Shot one of them in the back.  gbrooks   Jun-30-08 08:02 PM   #19 
  - Roy Rogers lied. You're allowed to shoot anyone on your property anywhere.  readmoreoften   Jul-01-08 02:32 AM   #97 
     - Well, it's not quite that  dmesg   Jul-01-08 10:42 AM   #130 
  - They were in his yard and one ran towards Horn before he was shot  hack89   Jun-30-08 08:09 PM   #20 
  - The other one was running backward, I suppose.  wtmusic   Jun-30-08 09:11 PM   #27 
     - No  hack89   Jun-30-08 09:57 PM   #41 
        - Read the article  lynyrd_skynyrd   Jun-30-08 10:02 PM   #42 
           - He didn't shoot until they entered his yard and ignored a warning  hack89   Jun-30-08 10:05 PM   #44 
              - What warning did Horn provide for his prey?  EOTE   Jul-01-08 10:24 AM   #126 
  - I guess they picked the wrong house to rob...  Balbus   Jun-30-08 08:33 PM   #24 
  - I have no problem with it, those two fuckers....  Jack_DeLeon   Jun-30-08 09:18 PM   #31 
  - You must be a very frightened.  wtmusic   Jun-30-08 09:28 PM   #33 
  - I can tell you that I don't hide in any closets or tremble! I bet there  napi21   Jun-30-08 09:49 PM   #38 
  - Not at all.  Jack_DeLeon   Jun-30-08 10:31 PM   #47 
     - So perceived freedom from worry is worth killing someone over?  wtmusic   Jun-30-08 11:45 PM   #70 
        - Not perceived freedom, actual freedom...  Jack_DeLeon   Jul-01-08 12:18 AM   #72 
        - Just so we understand each other here  wtmusic   Jul-01-08 10:06 AM   #120 
        - That's the crucial question  dmesg   Jul-01-08 06:53 AM   #104 
           - It never fails to amaze me  wtmusic   Jul-01-08 10:02 AM   #119 
              - Where do you get the idea that I think Horn deserves praise?  dmesg   Jul-01-08 10:22 AM   #124 
  - Hope you never speed.  flvegan   Jun-30-08 09:37 PM   #36 
  - Yep, you sound stupid...  Jack_DeLeon   Jun-30-08 10:34 PM   #48 
     - Nope.  flvegan   Jun-30-08 10:40 PM   #50 
        - We are all possess free will...  Jack_DeLeon   Jun-30-08 11:13 PM   #57 
           - All your decisions are belong to us.  flvegan   Jun-30-08 11:32 PM   #64 
              - So you dont do what you think is right?  Jack_DeLeon   Jul-01-08 12:20 AM   #74 
  - But the murderer with the shotgun might.  jobycom   Jul-01-08 12:45 AM   #78 
  - I don't think skin color had anything to do with it! The laws in Tx changed  napi21   Jun-30-08 09:22 PM   #32 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-30-08 10:05 PM   #43 
  - I don't GAS about race! If somebody is trying to steal my things  napi21   Jun-30-08 11:20 PM   #62 
     - Wow Only One White Criminal? Wow !  Binka   Jul-01-08 12:20 AM   #73 
        - You misread my statement AGAIN! I said all were white except  napi21   Jul-01-08 08:19 AM   #110 
        - God You're A Nasty One. Disgusting Almost. Could Work On Your Comprehension Skills Too.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jul-01-08 11:18 AM   #136 
  - Sounds like you are in favor of the Jim Crow Laws.  madinmaryland   Jun-30-08 10:16 PM   #45 
     - I'd have no problem with shooting whiteboys...  Jack_DeLeon   Jun-30-08 10:35 PM   #49 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-30-08 09:51 PM   #40 
  - And people who think Joe is a murderer...  Aya Reiko   Jun-30-08 10:56 PM   #55 
  - I don't see how calling a spade a spade in this instance makes you a "bleeding heart".  MrSlayer   Jun-30-08 11:34 PM   #65 
  - So you're a wimp.  Aya Reiko   Jul-01-08 03:18 AM   #99 
     - I Thought The Sensible Thing Is To Just Call The Police  wellst0nev0ter   Jul-01-08 04:18 AM   #100 
  - "Bleeding-heart liberal"...  opiate69   Jun-30-08 11:41 PM   #67 
  - This guy committed outright murder. He should be executed.  MrSlayer   Jun-30-08 11:12 PM   #56 
  - "Murder" is a legally defined act.  Codeine   Jun-30-08 11:16 PM   #60 
  - Not being charged with a crime is not the legal (or moral, logical) equivalent  Romulox   Jul-01-08 09:13 AM   #117 
  - I'm glad you are so tight with your neighbors...  Jack_DeLeon   Jun-30-08 11:16 PM   #61 
  - If, like "Hero Joe", I was on the phone with the cops at the time I would have helped immeasurably.  MrSlayer   Jun-30-08 11:42 PM   #68 
     - Two criminals seeing you take their picture  michreject   Jul-01-08 08:37 AM   #115 
        - They wouldn't have to see me doing it.  MrSlayer   Jul-01-08 08:28 PM   #143 
  - "all they were doing was robbing the neighbor"  Mudoria   Jul-01-08 10:13 AM   #122 
  - you are  delaware97   Jul-01-08 10:57 AM   #133 
  - I was hoping someone would post this on DU.  cat_girl25   Jun-30-08 11:23 PM   #63 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-30-08 11:34 PM   #66 
  - Thanks for the link, gun nut! nt  cat_girl25   Jun-30-08 11:51 PM   #71 
  - Why the hell would you post that crap?  Fox Mulder   Jul-01-08 12:58 AM   #87 
  - um... this is a political message board, not a marketing site.  salin   Jul-01-08 05:53 AM   #102 
  - I'm sorry, but I can't muster up much sympathy for the two thugs...  Endangered Specie   Jul-01-08 12:46 AM   #80 
  - Funny, my sympathy doesn't have a quota. How do you gauge yours?  Bluebear   Jul-01-08 01:35 AM   #94 
  - It's disgusting.  Fox Mulder   Jul-01-08 12:58 AM   #86 
  - Yeah, he should have gotten charged with something  krispos42   Jul-01-08 01:13 AM   #90 
  - This is why burgulary is as hazardous as running into oncoming traffic  Hippo_Tron   Jul-01-08 01:17 AM   #91 
  - So, if'n y'see any Mezzicans hangin' 'round yer nayborhood, jes' blow 'em away! An' if'n they run...  KrazyKat   Jul-01-08 05:38 AM   #101 
  - The guy wanted to play John Wayne  LanternWaste   Jul-01-08 08:18 AM   #108 
  - Texas has a long history of lynching. This is just a new version.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-01-08 09:13 AM   #118 
  - A constructive suggestion for everyone who thinks there has been a miscarriage of justice!  slackmaster   Jul-01-08 10:14 AM   #123 
  - He's a murderer...plain and simple. What if it was YOUR teenager  NotGivingUp   Jul-01-08 10:36 AM   #129 
  - So you believe that the consequences of criminal action  Dimensio0   Jul-01-08 12:53 PM   #139 
  - My teenagers would know that breaking into a house is like running into oncoming traffic  Hippo_Tron   Jul-01-08 04:45 PM   #140 
  - What would happen to someone who shot Cindi McCain  NoGOPZone   Jul-01-08 10:51 AM   #131 
  - Bet Kitty Genovese wishes she had Joe Horn as a neighbor  delaware97   Jul-01-08 11:15 AM   #135 
  - It could happen anywhere with a decent explanation of self-defense  aikoaiko   Jul-01-08 11:23 AM   #138 
  - Oh, crap -- we're surrounded by Texas here!  Terry in Austin   Jul-01-08 05:43 PM   #142 
  - wow  Orangeone   Jul-02-08 08:03 AM   #144 
  - I believe he witnessed them B&E with a crowbar.  reflection   Jul-02-08 01:52 PM   #147 
  - you can bet if mr horn was a black man, his ass would be in jail.  KG   Jul-02-08 02:01 PM   #148 
  - How do you figure that? n/t  reflection   Jul-02-08 02:44 PM   #150 
  - If you think an injustice was done based on race, please contact the Civil Rights Division  slackmaster   Jul-02-08 02:44 PM   #151 
  - I completely disagree  dmesg   Jul-02-08 02:52 PM   #153 
  - He played out a popular dream and became John Wayne in his own mind.  LanternWaste   Jul-02-08 02:42 PM   #149 
     - I find myself completely unable to read other peoples' minds  slackmaster   Jul-02-08 02:45 PM   #152 
        - Mere supposition on my part  LanternWaste   Jul-02-08 03:06 PM   #154 
 

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