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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-01-08 06:28 PM
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56. That is an excellent way of putting it. n/t
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  -Civilization's golden era is teetering on collapse Pharaoh  Jun-30-08 02:28 PM   #0 
  - You know what amazes me? Just how many folks, even here  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-30-08 02:42 PM   #1 
  - kick and reccomended  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-30-08 03:23 PM   #2 
  - American civilization is teetering...  Terran   Jun-30-08 03:35 PM   #3 
  - Until the gulfstream shuts down  Pharaoh   Jun-30-08 03:53 PM   #6 
  - Sigh...yeah, forgot about that one.  Terran   Jun-30-08 04:39 PM   #12 
  - this worries me too  mix   Jul-01-08 01:12 AM   #36 
  - Rescue our civilization?  Terry in Austin   Jun-30-08 05:46 PM   #18 
     - The Amish???  The River   Jun-30-08 06:18 PM   #22 
        - You got it  Terry in Austin   Jun-30-08 07:50 PM   #28 
  - The title is nice, but I disagree STRONGLY with the content. Solar and wind power  robinlynne   Jun-30-08 03:43 PM   #4 
  - It could be that we lack sufficient energy to produce the devices we need to produce the energy  pt22   Jun-30-08 03:52 PM   #5 
  - Bio-diesel.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-30-08 05:23 PM   #14 
  - That's been worked into sci-fi.  igil   Jun-30-08 06:01 PM   #20 
  - "as soon as we decide to do it".  robertpaulsen   Jun-30-08 04:06 PM   #8 
  - why wait. We have the technology. we know what needs doing.  robinlynne   Jun-30-08 05:28 PM   #16 
  - Why wait? We are waiting. Why, I haven't the foggiest notion.  robertpaulsen   Jun-30-08 06:16 PM   #21 
  - Depressions are financial/money/political crises.  Hannah Bell   Jul-01-08 01:19 AM   #37 
     - "If there's a will, there's a way" doesn't always result in a happy ending.  robertpaulsen   Jul-01-08 12:30 PM   #45 
        - The same way the switch to war production took the US from  Hannah Bell   Jul-01-08 12:56 PM   #46 
           - Oh shit. I think Seymour Hersch might agree with that analogy.  robertpaulsen   Jul-01-08 01:20 PM   #47 
              - no, i didn't mean that - even though war IS the typical response to  Hannah Bell   Jul-01-08 01:35 PM   #48 
                 - Political will is a huge problem.  robertpaulsen   Jul-01-08 02:29 PM   #49 
                    - "through economic hardship" - that appears to be the plan. the pain  Hannah Bell   Jul-01-08 03:06 PM   #50 
                       - That reminds me of a couple things I've read.  robertpaulsen   Jul-01-08 05:13 PM   #53 
                          - i think we pretty much agree. one of my favorite quotes: "in a depression,  Hannah Bell   Jul-01-08 10:20 PM   #57 
                             - i used to take "the economy" for reality.  Hannah Bell   Jul-01-08 10:27 PM   #58 
                                - Regarding switching to war production to ameliorate the effects of Peak Oil.  robertpaulsen   Jul-02-08 05:34 PM   #60 
  - Cargo cult?  Ezlivin   Jun-30-08 04:06 PM   #9 
  - So let's sit on our ass and just burn the petrol we have while we have it?  Chulanowa   Jun-30-08 04:28 PM   #11 
  - This is all sort of a secular version of Pascal's Wager  sudopod   Jul-01-08 04:23 PM   #52 
     - That is an excellent way of putting it. n/t  tom_paine   Jul-01-08 06:28 PM   #56 
  - I think there are alot of possibilitys  Pharaoh   Jun-30-08 05:15 PM   #13 
  - Have you seen who killed the electric car? around 3 yrs old already.  robinlynne   Jun-30-08 05:27 PM   #15 
  - Yes I saw it  Pharaoh   Jun-30-08 05:54 PM   #19 
     - not if you use solar power.  robinlynne   Jun-30-08 06:27 PM   #24 
  - "Solar and wind power cannot and will not replace fossil fuel."  DCKit   Jul-01-08 12:08 AM   #29 
     - Those third world countries will not be laughing their asses off  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-01-08 01:09 AM   #35 
  - My husband and I went to the Midwest alternative energy fair  Nikia   Jun-30-08 06:21 PM   #23 
  - exactly. i don't think there will be any collapse at all. just the opposite. huge expansion  robinlynne   Jun-30-08 06:34 PM   #25 
  - When the marginal price of fossil fuels exceed the entry price of solar/wind  dmesg   Jul-01-08 12:58 AM   #34 
  - How do you get energy to the end user from the site?  Leopolds Ghost   Jul-01-08 04:44 AM   #42 
     - Superconducting transmission lines?  KamaAina   Jul-01-08 06:21 PM   #55 
  - What blows me away is posters here who continually claim OVERPOPULATION is not a problem.  The Stranger   Jun-30-08 04:01 PM   #7 
  - "yet we ignore meltdown"  Finnfan   Jun-30-08 04:06 PM   #10 
  - The economic meltdown is already singeing butts...  Karenina   Jun-30-08 05:30 PM   #17 
  - who benefits from "the sky is falling".. the Bush family. the Sudis. thats'  robinlynne   Jun-30-08 06:37 PM   #26 
  - google green revolution  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-01-08 12:15 AM   #31 
     - ok. so you are saying that the world is over-populated? agreed.  robinlynne   Jul-01-08 12:32 AM   #32 
        - The green revolution requires petroleum products for  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-01-08 12:38 AM   #33 
           - Insidious yes. Will we cease to exist without them? No.  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-01-08 01:27 AM   #38 
           - As a species no, we will not cease to exist  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-01-08 01:30 AM   #39 
              - The most (and maybe only) wonderful thing about humankind is its ability to adapt.  cherokeeprogressive   Jul-01-08 01:37 AM   #40 
           - ok. let's say we convert all passenger cars to electric, and most electricity to solar  robinlynne   Jul-01-08 10:02 AM   #44 
  - Yeah, those damn liberals, anyway...always so "negative."  Echo In Light   Jun-30-08 06:43 PM   #27 
  - "teetering" ?  leftofthedial   Jul-01-08 12:10 AM   #30 
  - I think it's interesting, there's so many posts with ideas & the general feeling  Hannah Bell   Jul-01-08 02:58 AM   #41 
  - 1950 - 2000 = Golden Era???  Dover   Jul-01-08 05:00 AM   #43 
  - Is that a freemason logo on your signature n/t  conspirator   Jul-01-08 04:15 PM   #51 
  - yes  Pharaoh   Jul-01-08 05:21 PM   #54 
  - so, taking the midway point, disco and roller rinks are the penultimate creations before the fall.  NuttyFluffers   Jul-01-08 11:03 PM   #59 

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