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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 05:11 PM
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83. Great! More guns, more death penalties, more war!
Gotta have these things if you want to be "free!"
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  -Breaking on MSNBC: DC HANDGUN BAN OVERTURNED Squatch  Jun-26-08 09:17 AM   #0 
  - hey ... even cnn is getting this one quick...  ProdigalJunkMail   Jun-26-08 09:18 AM   #1 
  - Yup. Individual, not collective, right.  TahitiNut   Jun-26-08 09:18 AM   #2 
  - Even the good lawyers  Zenzic   Jun-26-08 05:38 PM   #85 
  - Got to admit it worked, there weren't any handguns in DC  RGBolen   Jun-26-08 09:19 AM   #3 
  - You forgot the sarcasm tag.  Squatch   Jun-26-08 09:20 AM   #4 
  - Oopsie  Squatch   Jun-26-08 09:20 AM   #5 
  - And Why Wasn't This Overturned At The Beginning Of The Bush Term?.....  global1   Jun-26-08 09:21 AM   #6 
  - There has to be the right case  michreject   Jun-26-08 09:36 AM   #8 
  - Tin foil hat too tight?  Scagnettie   Jun-26-08 10:14 AM   #22 
  - There goes the gun grabbers claim that the 2nd refers to a militia.  michreject   Jun-26-08 09:34 AM   #7 
  - The 2nd refers to the PEOPLE's UNORGANIZED militia, NOT to protection from criminals.  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 12:50 AM   #89 
     - Not anymore it doesn't  michreject   Jun-27-08 07:41 AM   #111 
  - The popping sound you hear is not bullets  JustABozoOnThisBus   Jun-26-08 09:38 AM   #9 
  - I thought it was the sound of rupturing capillaries at the Brady Campaign HQ!  D__S   Jun-26-08 09:43 AM   #12 
  - and a few exploding heads  old mark   Jun-26-08 09:47 AM   #14 
  - If so, why are they saying DC must now allow gun stores?  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 12:51 AM   #90 
  - About damn time.  Mojorabbit   Jun-26-08 09:40 AM   #10 
  - Wrong. Obama WILL be a gun grabber  JustABozoOnThisBus   Jun-26-08 09:50 AM   #16 
  - I have emailed his campaign on this issue, got zero back-  old mark   Jun-26-08 10:00 AM   #18 
     - He shifted positions since the start of his campaign  robicon   Jun-26-08 10:17 AM   #24 
        - He can sign bans without removing the second amendment  JustABozoOnThisBus   Jun-26-08 11:12 AM   #35 
           - handguns match that definition  Zenzic   Jun-26-08 05:35 PM   #84 
           - But it can only be applicable to newly manufactured guns  Thothmes   Jun-27-08 08:03 AM   #112 
  - Just saw on CNN  JustABozoOnThisBus   Jun-26-08 12:33 PM   #57 
     - Damn it  Mojorabbit   Jun-26-08 12:46 PM   #58 
     - That will possibly cost a lot of votes in Middle America. nt  Selatius   Jun-26-08 03:35 PM   #75 
  - Fantastic! Fascists hate gun rights, score one for the good guys! nt  NYC_SKP   Jun-26-08 09:41 AM   #11 
  - This ruling says 2nd Amendment is about the castle doctrine. That is wrong.  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 12:53 AM   #91 
     - Why is the castle doctrine "immoral"?  Dimensio0   Jun-27-08 08:55 AM   #113 
  - I wonder what Rudy will say about this  MiniMe   Jun-26-08 09:46 AM   #13 
  - Excellent! K&R  pt22   Jun-26-08 09:50 AM   #15 
  - I agree with the court on this one. To ban guns in any city only  napi21   Jun-26-08 09:55 AM   #17 
  - Great news.  cobalt1999   Jun-26-08 10:01 AM   #19 
  - And also, if we expect to be treated as a free people,  OnionPatch   Jun-27-08 09:56 AM   #119 
  - Thank God!  ThomWV   Jun-26-08 10:01 AM   #20 
  - Good news n/t  Redneck Socialist   Jun-26-08 10:08 AM   #21 
  - Complete decision here.  D__S   Jun-26-08 10:17 AM   #23 
  - You have to admit...  robicon   Jun-26-08 10:19 AM   #25 
  - Or as a pdf here:  SteppingRazor   Jun-26-08 12:25 PM   #56 
  - I don't own a gun  Mz Pip   Jun-26-08 10:26 AM   #26 
  - Wow...  dantyrant   Jun-26-08 10:27 AM   #27 
  - Overreaching corrupt governments make us think about the Second Amendment.  NYC_SKP   Jun-26-08 10:40 AM   #30 
  - The repubs at the Brady Campaign want you to THINK that all Dems want to ban guns...  benEzra   Jun-26-08 10:57 AM   #31 
  - What do you need it for?  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 01:03 AM   #93 
  - I *can* hunt with it (in hunting configuration, it's a 5-shot .30-30, big deal)  benEzra   Jun-27-08 09:15 AM   #116 
  - Thank you !!!  Froward69   Jun-27-08 09:50 AM   #118 
  - The posters on this thread are fools. This is about empowering one segment of the population  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 12:59 AM   #92 
     - "Handguns are immoral"?  janesez   Jun-27-08 08:58 AM   #115 
  - A 5-4 decision...  SidDithers   Jun-26-08 10:33 AM   #28 
  - You mean the centrists voting in the minority  stevebreeze   Jun-26-08 06:08 PM   #86 
  - While this is good news for DC specifically,  MadHound   Jun-26-08 10:37 AM   #29 
  - Please, READ THE OPINION before making that claim.  benEzra   Jun-26-08 11:04 AM   #32 
  - Like I said, precedent  MadHound   Jun-26-08 11:11 AM   #34 
     - The ruling IS precedent...and that PRECEDENT says the following:  benEzra   Jun-26-08 01:13 PM   #62 
        - According to recent historical research, Revolutionary farmers did NOT use guns for self-protection  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 01:12 AM   #94 
           - You wouldn't be thinking of Bellsiles' work, would you?  benEzra   Jun-27-08 09:23 AM   #117 
  - Most of those need to be allowed  michreject   Jun-26-08 11:06 AM   #33 
     - In your opinion perhaps.  MadHound   Jun-26-08 11:13 AM   #37 
     - It's all opinions  michreject   Jun-26-08 11:40 AM   #40 
     - The way I see it, the intent of the ruling was to preserve the national _status quo_.  benEzra   Jun-26-08 02:38 PM   #72 
     - So background checks (creeping fascism) are good but general bans on certain arms (local discretion)  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 01:17 AM   #95 
        - Local communities can make decision  michreject   Jun-27-08 07:39 AM   #110 
  - Good  NeedleCast   Jun-26-08 11:13 AM   #36 
  - Why don't they just ban bullets, instead?  CanonRay   Jun-26-08 11:29 AM   #38 
  - Yes, circumventing rights is a great idea!  NeedleCast   Jun-26-08 11:41 AM   #41 
  - The Supreme Court has already ruled on that issue...  benEzra   Jun-26-08 02:35 PM   #70 
  - You've heard of the Stamp Act of 1765, yes?  Ikonoklast   Jun-26-08 03:36 PM   #76 
  - Yay!!!  backscatter712   Jun-26-08 11:32 AM   #39 
  - Obama's statement on the ruling:  Terri S   Jun-26-08 11:43 AM   #42 
  - Completely reasonable postion.  dems_rightnow   Jun-26-08 11:50 AM   #45 
  - woot!  texasleo   Jun-26-08 12:53 PM   #59 
  - So anything that empowers the state and a favored class of citizens (per background checks) is good?  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 01:26 AM   #99 
  - I'm just glad I live in the UK  Donald Ian Rankin   Jun-26-08 11:47 AM   #43 
  - You apparently know nothing about the DC area  NeedleCast   Jun-26-08 11:53 AM   #46 
  - How do you know that the criminals have it now?  Zenzic   Jun-26-08 12:20 PM   #53 
  - Because gun crimes are commited by criminals  NeedleCast   Jun-26-08 01:12 PM   #61 
     - The middle class legal clerks, students and other stereotypcial DC "good guys" commit massive crime.  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 01:22 AM   #98 
  - I live in the DC area, thank you very much.  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 01:18 AM   #96 
  - I'm glad you live in the UK too....  Meiko   Jun-26-08 11:59 AM   #50 
  - Ditto  Zenzic   Jun-26-08 12:18 PM   #52 
  - Donald, the sky in DC is not falling today any more than it was yesterday  slackmaster   Jun-26-08 01:16 PM   #64 
  - *ahem*  krispos42   Jun-26-08 02:36 PM   #71 
     - I think you make my point for me rather effectively.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jun-26-08 03:26 PM   #73 
        - "I think there's a lot to be said for the idea of making the national DNA database universal"  Raskolnik   Jun-26-08 05:09 PM   #81 
        - Your homicide rate has doubled in the last 40 years  krispos42   Jun-27-08 12:25 AM   #88 
        - So the gun grabbers don't believe in the bill of rights, and the gun nuts want to apply only to them  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 01:28 AM   #100 
           - I support at least 80% of the Bill of Rights.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jun-27-08 06:03 AM   #109 
              - Please explain.  Dimensio0   Jun-27-08 08:57 AM   #114 
  - Great !!! More murders and crime in DC.  skooooo   Jun-26-08 11:49 AM   #44 
  - So you think the handgun ban in DC  NeedleCast   Jun-26-08 11:54 AM   #47 
  - Yes  Zenzic   Jun-26-08 12:21 PM   #54 
     - Well then you're crazy  NeedleCast   Jun-26-08 01:17 PM   #66 
        - Why would a law-abiding citizen in DC need a handgun?  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 01:32 AM   #101 
  - LOL!  Neo   Jun-26-08 11:57 AM   #48 
  - You can't prevent violent crime  Zenzic   Jun-26-08 12:22 PM   #55 
     - no it was not  Neo   Jun-26-08 01:18 PM   #67 
     - Right, because there was so little gun crime  NeedleCast   Jun-26-08 01:18 PM   #68 
        - Have you ever been held up in DC? Ever been burglarized by an ARMED burglar?  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 01:53 AM   #106 
  - Yeah, it's *SO* hard to get an illegal gun in DC  dmesg   Jun-26-08 11:57 AM   #49 
  - It'll be so much better now though, right?  skooooo   Jun-26-08 01:06 PM   #60 
     - Better for the law-abiding, yes. (n/t)  benEzra   Jun-26-08 01:14 PM   #63 
        - Dream on.  skooooo   Jun-26-08 01:16 PM   #65 
        - Criminals in D.C. already had free access to guns...  benEzra   Jun-26-08 02:31 PM   #69 
        - Why? Are you itching to kill yourself an "undesirable"?  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 01:33 AM   #102 
           - No, but if I lived in DC, I'd choose to own guns just as I do now.  benEzra   Jun-27-08 10:04 AM   #120 
  - Yeah, because law abiding people will suddenly go crazy, right??  Ghost in the Machine   Jun-26-08 12:16 PM   #51 
  - Gun prohibition doesn't make gun regulation easier. All it does is create a black market for crime.  Selatius   Jun-26-08 03:31 PM   #74 
  - Fucking guns KILL PEOPLE!  DiverDave   Jun-26-08 04:02 PM   #77 
  - Only when you aim them at people and pull the trigger  Jackeen   Jun-26-08 04:04 PM   #78 
  - Self defense is castle doctrine which says I can kill you for any reason if you walk on my land  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 01:37 AM   #104 
     - Castle doctrine applies to the threshold of your home, NOT to your land.  benEzra   Jun-27-08 10:16 AM   #121 
  - You really make some subtle, well-reasonsed points.  Raskolnik   Jun-26-08 05:11 PM   #82 
  - Most excellent. Hopefully we can go after other daft laws as well.  Jackeen   Jun-26-08 04:08 PM   #79 
  - I wonder how many posters on this thread are native DC residents  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 01:40 AM   #105 
  - A good video to ponder  Zenzic   Jun-26-08 04:39 PM   #80 
  - I submit, then, that you are a bit blinkered.  Jackeen   Jun-26-08 11:26 PM   #87 
     - Nope  Zenzic   Jun-27-08 02:15 AM   #108 
  - Great! More guns, more death penalties, more war!  lebkuchen   Jun-26-08 05:11 PM   #83 
  - Yeah, what do you want to bet most of the gun nuts on DU believe in the death penalty  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-27-08 01:58 AM   #107 
     - I am a strong supporter of the right to keep and bear arms, have a substantial gun collection  slackmaster   Jun-27-08 10:19 AM   #122 
     - ah, but who is a "gun nut on DU"?  bean fidhleir   Jun-27-08 10:37 AM   #123 
  - The Supreme Court has really been rockin' the news lately.  riverdeep   Jun-27-08 01:19 AM   #97 
  - K&R!! NT  virginia mountainman   Jun-27-08 01:33 AM   #103 
 

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