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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:07 AM
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207. Your logic is poor. Your fallacies are two-fold. If you can stop shouting "bullshit,"
we can continue to talk about this.

There is no correlation between opposition to the death penalty and reform those poor lost souls. Youve committed a logical fallacy here called a false dilemma, where two alternative statements are held to be the only possible options, when in reality there are several.

While you may prefer to waste 100s of thousands a year of our tax money on the appellate courts (death penalty sentences are automatically appealed in most states) while we still pay costs of incarceration, my preference is to be done with the business and simply apply a mandatory life without parole sentence.

I notice you must demonize and dehumanize these people in order to justify your urge for vengeance and state-sanctioned killing. Whether you like it or not, these offenders - monsters all - are human beings, and when the government executes these people they are killing in your name and mine. I deeply resent the government killing in my name; I do not believe that capital punishment is just, is equitably applied or is appropriate for a civilized society. I believe capital punishment is a barbaric practice that seeks revenge, not justice. Our society and its laws are based on justice; when we ardently seek revenge we abase ourselves so we are no better than the offender whom we wish to execute.

Who said, God, Guts and a little loving guidance will reform them to be reliable citizens? I believe that was you. That is another logical fallacy called a straw man argument. You introduced a statement into the debate, inferred it was someone elses argument, then tried to dispute it. Sometimes that tactic works, but it only works when the rhetorical hyperbole has not been pointed out. In this case, you are busted.

I am quite willing to debate an issue based on the merits of the argument. I refuse to engage in debate with a person who uses personal attacks and logical fallacies in a vain attempt to prove a point.
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