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Tue Jun-24-08 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #98 |
| -Mobile phones 'more dangerous than smoking' |
villager |
Jun-23-08 11:57 PM |
#0 |
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If only they could link cell phones to weight gain... |
chknltl |
Jun-24-08 12:05 AM |
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What are you thanking him for? You obviously think it's a matter to joke about, |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jun-24-08 04:13 AM |
#26 |
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?? |
progdonkey |
Jun-24-08 10:49 AM |
#60 |
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Yeah, what progdonkey said! |
chknltl |
Jun-24-08 03:58 PM |
#127 |
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Maybe you should stop eating them |
JackintheGreen |
Jun-24-08 09:01 AM |
#53 |
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Well that WOULD explain why they keep appearing in toilets! |
chknltl |
Jun-24-08 04:07 PM |
#132 |
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Interesting that there's 5 recs but no comments. |
SimpleTrend |
Jun-24-08 12:10 AM |
#2 |
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Well, I was the first recommendation and was going to post that... |
Hissyspit |
Jun-24-08 03:11 AM |
#23 |
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Rec. - no comment |
emilyg |
Jun-24-08 12:23 PM |
#82 |
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Addicts will rec anything that supports their drug habit. nt |
onehandle |
Jun-24-08 03:51 PM |
#124 |
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Not surprising. |
Fenris |
Jun-24-08 12:11 AM |
#3 |
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Kinda like the oil companys and global warming ...... |
doublethink |
Jun-24-08 12:23 PM |
#83 |
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Bullshit |
mconvente |
Jun-24-08 03:40 PM |
#119 |
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From the National Cancer Institute: |
Lorien |
Jun-24-08 04:36 PM |
#135 |
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People who carefully read the article note that it is pretty much a fact now |
truedelphi |
Jun-24-08 08:56 PM |
#173 |
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Link? |
jeff47 |
Jun-25-08 12:27 PM |
#184 |
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I happen to be the living link |
truedelphi |
Jun-25-08 02:16 PM |
#189 |
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Here are several links |
truedelphi |
Jun-25-08 02:22 PM |
#190 |
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Is it more or less dangerous to use Bluetooth-type units? |
Liberty Belle |
Jun-24-08 12:13 AM |
#4 |
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Bluetooth headsets are really low-power.. |
lurky |
Jun-24-08 12:26 AM |
#6 |
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But the Bluetooth headset needs a phone. If these things can cause brain tumors, |
kgfnally |
Jun-24-08 12:58 AM |
#7 |
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I wouldn't freak out yet. |
lurky |
Jun-24-08 01:48 AM |
#18 |
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I agree |
alarimer |
Jun-24-08 07:47 AM |
#47 |
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That's What I Was Trying to Put My Finger On |
ribofunk |
Jun-24-08 11:15 AM |
#67 |
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A single man (a scientist) going up againt a multi-billion dollar industry... |
SoCalDem |
Jun-24-08 12:26 PM |
#85 |
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Claiming to be a scientist doesn't make him right. |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 12:55 PM |
#92 |
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Check Out his credentials |
marions ghost |
Jun-24-08 02:27 PM |
#107 |
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Check out his actions, not the alphabet soup. |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 02:51 PM |
#110 |
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God... |
marions ghost |
Jun-24-08 03:56 PM |
#126 |
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Maybe he doesn't like logical fallacies. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-24-08 03:58 PM |
#128 |
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what logical fallacies |
marions ghost |
Jun-25-08 10:49 AM |
#178 |
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"argument from authority" |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-25-08 11:27 AM |
#180 |
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You're right. Just because he has credentials, doesn't mean he's an expert. |
AllieB |
Jun-25-08 02:29 PM |
#191 |
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I'm not trying to convince you or anybody else |
marions ghost |
Jun-25-08 05:54 PM |
#195 |
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So then why'd you post htem? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-25-08 06:21 PM |
#197 |
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I would like to convince people to keep an open mind |
marions ghost |
Jun-26-08 10:08 AM |
#198 |
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Good credentials don't necessarily mean a good researcher. |
ColonelTom |
Jun-24-08 08:01 PM |
#165 |
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I've worked with some brilliant scientists at NIH |
turtlensue |
Jun-24-08 08:41 PM |
#169 |
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I'm very familiar with medical research |
marions ghost |
Jun-25-08 10:54 AM |
#179 |
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He's trolling for cash |
jeff47 |
Jun-25-08 12:10 PM |
#182 |
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Either |
marions ghost |
Jun-25-08 05:57 PM |
#196 |
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LOL. |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-24-08 03:37 PM |
#117 |
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I reacted the same way |
Gormy Cuss |
Jun-24-08 01:41 PM |
#100 |
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However, those cordless phones we all use at home could potentially be worse |
justaregularperson |
Jun-24-08 01:42 AM |
#15 |
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Hmmmm |
MattBaggins |
Jun-24-08 02:10 AM |
#21 |
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I think the better answer is to support technologies that limit the exposure |
justaregularperson |
Jun-24-08 03:09 AM |
#22 |
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Wouldn't be so sure... |
ElboRuum |
Jun-24-08 12:55 PM |
#93 |
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The whole thing sounds like ... |
BearSquirrel2 |
Jun-24-08 07:42 AM |
#42 |
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It is the frequency and power that matters. Home units are low power and low frequency. |
LiberalArkie |
Jun-24-08 10:11 AM |
#57 |
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Link? |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 02:08 PM |
#106 |
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And don't forget that the 3/10 of a watt transmitted by a cellular telephone couldn't fry a amoeba. |
FORREST GRUMP |
Jun-24-08 03:10 PM |
#112 |
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High frequency radiation is ionizing radiation and causes harm to tissue. |
Sam Ervin jret |
Jun-24-08 05:40 PM |
#142 |
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I'm confused |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 05:47 PM |
#143 |
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But texting is ok |
BecauseBushSaysSo |
Jun-24-08 02:04 AM |
#20 |
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These laws are ridiculous ... |
BearSquirrel2 |
Jun-24-08 07:44 AM |
#44 |
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Couple of points |
dbmk |
Jun-24-08 08:48 AM |
#51 |
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It's not ridiculous |
reclinerhead |
Jun-24-08 09:00 AM |
#52 |
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Cell phone drivers also seem to forget they are driving, and often end up |
tblue37 |
Jun-24-08 11:07 AM |
#64 |
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I actually saw a guy watching a basketball game and talking on his cell phone... |
MilesColtrane |
Jun-24-08 12:29 PM |
#86 |
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Do you cover the entire side of your face with your arm when you talk to a friend in the car? |
slampoet |
Jun-24-08 10:59 AM |
#62 |
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Darwin is a highly competitive award. |
aquart |
Jun-24-08 11:35 AM |
#70 |
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Amazing how people managed without cell-phones in the bad old days, |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jun-24-08 04:16 AM |
#27 |
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I loved the bad old days when "work" couldn't find you and |
pokercat999 |
Jun-24-08 06:15 AM |
#34 |
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I don't have a cell phone and never have. But I now am nervous about driving outside of town, simply |
tblue37 |
Jun-24-08 11:23 AM |
#69 |
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They are determined that we should believe that all technological advances |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jun-25-08 05:18 PM |
#193 |
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that and e-mail |
klyon |
Jun-24-08 12:16 PM |
#77 |
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self delete. |
bliss_eternal |
Jun-24-08 03:18 PM |
#114 |
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I'm sure most of the people I forwarded this to will |
gateley |
Jun-24-08 12:15 AM |
#5 |
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I've mostly stopped using a cell phone because |
Clovis Sangrail |
Jun-24-08 01:00 AM |
#8 |
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I carry a fake phone with fake bluetooth |
The Traveler |
Jun-24-08 01:12 AM |
#9 |
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finally, |
pansypoo53219 |
Jun-24-08 01:14 AM |
#10 |
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Increase cannabis consumption to compensate... |
Mythsaje |
Jun-24-08 01:37 AM |
#11 |
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Well, All riiight! |
nathan hale |
Jun-24-08 07:23 AM |
#40 |
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Wouldn't work |
Oeditpus Rex |
Jun-24-08 06:44 PM |
#155 |
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Bluetooth doesn't have to be in your ear |
MattP |
Jun-24-08 01:39 AM |
#12 |
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That is why I only use my cell phone |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jun-24-08 01:39 AM |
#13 |
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what do you say to a 17 year old about this? |
greenman3610 |
Jun-24-08 01:39 AM |
#14 |
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Make sure he/she uses a low emf cell phone |
justaregularperson |
Jun-24-08 01:46 AM |
#17 |
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Thanks for the list. I was going to trade in my razr v3m |
saddlesore |
Jun-24-08 08:17 AM |
#49 |
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You explain the concept of "junk science" (nt) |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 12:25 PM |
#84 |
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Is that you, Steven J. Milloy? (n/t) |
TWriterD |
Jun-24-08 05:00 PM |
#138 |
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does this mean that I can smoke again without people freaking out about it? |
harmonicon |
Jun-24-08 01:43 AM |
#16 |
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Right ON! |
rucognizant |
Jun-24-08 08:21 AM |
#50 |
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Touche'! |
Lugnut |
Jun-24-08 12:16 PM |
#78 |
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Pregnant? Put Your Cell Phone Use On Hold! |
justaregularperson |
Jun-24-08 01:53 AM |
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Almost everyone I see on the sidewalk |
Cobalt-60 |
Jun-24-08 03:21 AM |
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I just feel very sorry for people who have to use them a lot in their work, |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jun-24-08 04:09 AM |
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funny you should say that |
dddem |
Jun-24-08 06:49 AM |
#37 |
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Same here. I don't even have a cell phone but my kid does. |
Sequoia |
Jun-24-08 10:28 AM |
#58 |
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I Volunteered @ Denver Dems Last Week |
otohara |
Jun-24-08 12:12 PM |
#76 |
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Personally, I don't buy it... |
crimsonblue |
Jun-24-08 04:46 AM |
#28 |
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Brain Cancer |
otohara |
Jun-24-08 12:16 PM |
#79 |
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It doesn't say what kind of study |
eilen |
Jun-24-08 04:55 AM |
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Reminds me of the '60s |
Born Free |
Jun-24-08 04:56 AM |
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What infuriates me is that false science, the hand-maid of industry |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jun-24-08 04:57 AM |
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So I guess in a couple of years my brain will look like a cancerous lung? |
trumad |
Jun-24-08 05:52 AM |
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I'm more concerned that there is a record of the cell phone's location whenever it is turned on |
Doug.Goodall |
Jun-24-08 05:55 AM |
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You have one sick, parasitic business community, and what it gives |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jun-24-08 06:37 AM |
#35 |
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Has that happened to you for real??? |
dixiegrrrrl |
Jun-24-08 01:44 PM |
#101 |
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They may be - although not because of tumors, but because |
Clark2008 |
Jun-24-08 06:43 AM |
#36 |
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I keep sending these European articles to my kids (ages 10 & 12) who are the ONLY ones |
mod mom |
Jun-24-08 07:05 AM |
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NICE, so I can justify not getting a cellphone and instead |
Spock_is_Skeptical |
Jun-24-08 07:13 AM |
#39 |
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This Hasn't Been Peer-Reviewed Yet, So It May Well Be Bullshit |
MannyGoldstein |
Jun-24-08 07:37 AM |
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Self-published - 'nuff said. |
BlooInBloo |
Jun-24-08 07:42 AM |
#43 |
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Tis the perfect plan for getting rid of, "The Significant Other": give the gift of a Cell Phone...! |
Broadslidin |
Jun-24-08 07:44 AM |
#45 |
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This is bullshit |
alarimer |
Jun-24-08 07:46 AM |
#46 |
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Actually there is evidence posted in the OP |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-24-08 06:18 PM |
#148 |
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No, there are claims |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 06:34 PM |
#151 |
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Here is the study that the OP referred to, there is plenty of data in it |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-24-08 06:38 PM |
#152 |
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Ok, got to the first page... |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 06:45 PM |
#156 |
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There is nothing wrong with using press reports and internet content to some extent... |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-24-08 07:13 PM |
#157 |
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There is no place for them in a scientific paper. |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 07:35 PM |
#161 |
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He did not use them as his primary sources. |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-24-08 07:44 PM |
#163 |
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No, he did |
jeff47 |
Jun-25-08 12:05 PM |
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More commentary |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 07:30 PM |
#159 |
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Here is a list of peer review journal articles this doctor has submitted |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-24-08 07:48 PM |
#164 |
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Take a good look at those papers |
jeff47 |
Jun-25-08 12:17 PM |
#183 |
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Alright I will respond to the glaring errors in your analysis... |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-25-08 05:24 PM |
#194 |
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A guest on Ring of Fire Radio a few weeks ago said the same thing |
DeeDeeNY |
Jun-24-08 08:01 AM |
#48 |
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Wow! Dr. Carlo can break the laws of physics! |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 12:47 PM |
#89 |
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This is his website |
DeeDeeNY |
Jun-24-08 09:28 PM |
#174 |
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That's nice |
jeff47 |
Jun-25-08 12:32 PM |
#185 |
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Good - this should thin the herd a bit. |
progressoid |
Jun-24-08 09:27 AM |
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Not to mention the pollution from poisonous dead batteries in landfills. n/t |
Swamp Rat |
Jun-24-08 09:29 AM |
#55 |
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so should one just kill themselves if they smoke AND use a mobile phone? nt |
Javaman |
Jun-24-08 09:57 AM |
#56 |
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What about the second-hand radiation danger to people around those using cell phones? |
Baclava |
Jun-24-08 10:31 AM |
#59 |
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kick |
ensho |
Jun-24-08 10:54 AM |
#61 |
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These cell phones can pop popcorn, watch this controlled experiment |
whistle |
Jun-24-08 11:01 AM |
#63 |
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Snopes says "fake" |
Baclava |
Jun-24-08 11:12 AM |
#65 |
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Evidence for huge rise in brain tumors? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jun-24-08 11:14 AM |
#66 |
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Yes, I too was wondering if there is a link that verifies the premise |
Lex |
Jun-24-08 11:39 AM |
#71 |
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Anyone? Bueller?? n/t |
ColonelTom |
Jun-24-08 08:06 PM |
#166 |
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I get headaches after talking on my Blackberry. |
BushDespiser12 |
Jun-24-08 11:15 AM |
#68 |
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Me too, but it's usually because of what I'm hearing. |
donco6 |
Jun-24-08 01:00 PM |
#94 |
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I get headaches too |
Tumbulu |
Jun-24-08 04:01 PM |
#129 |
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Egg boiling and popcorn popping truth? |
WattleBreakfast |
Jun-24-08 11:43 AM |
#72 |
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It's Pretty Low Energy |
ProfessorGAC |
Jun-24-08 11:58 AM |
#74 |
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snopes.com is your friend |
Maeve |
Jun-24-08 12:22 PM |
#81 |
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I have deep suspicions that this is a hoax. Snopes.com confirms. |
tom_paine |
Jun-24-08 04:46 PM |
#137 |
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They are certainly more dangerous ON THE ROAD |
Perry Mason |
Jun-24-08 11:54 AM |
#73 |
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Grocery Stores Too |
ProfessorGAC |
Jun-24-08 12:10 PM |
#75 |
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Absolutely in the Grocery Stores |
Perry Mason |
Jun-24-08 03:45 PM |
#121 |
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Don't buy it. |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 12:19 PM |
#80 |
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Agreed |
RobertSeattle |
Jun-24-08 12:31 PM |
#87 |
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Generally Agree... But I'll play this guy for a minute... |
ElboRuum |
Jun-24-08 12:52 PM |
#91 |
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He's still wrong. |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 01:09 PM |
#97 |
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As much as I would LOVE to see cells disappear for public health reasons... |
ElboRuum |
Jun-24-08 12:35 PM |
#88 |
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Doubling a very small number still leaves you with a very small number |
NeedleCast |
Jun-24-08 12:49 PM |
#90 |
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I have been hearing about this for years. The Wireless Companies are trying to hide the truth about |
BrklynLib at work |
Jun-24-08 01:02 PM |
#95 |
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This is junk science |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 01:16 PM |
#98 |
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Go to this website |
marions ghost |
Jun-24-08 02:36 PM |
#109 |
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Alphabet soup does not equal good science. |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 03:07 PM |
#111 |
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BAN MORE THINGS! |
NeedleCast |
Jun-24-08 01:03 PM |
#96 |
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Lets see if you find a hole in this reasoning. |
Evoman |
Jun-24-08 01:33 PM |
#99 |
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yeah....but....uhhh..... I mean...errr...umm |
dixiegrrrrl |
Jun-24-08 02:00 PM |
#104 |
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I'll trade six months of my life for the convenience, |
Carnea |
Jun-24-08 01:47 PM |
#102 |
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Raise taxes like they do on smokes |
The Straight Story |
Jun-24-08 01:50 PM |
#103 |
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No cellphones in public-places due to the risk from second-hand calling. |
U4ikLefty |
Jun-24-08 02:03 PM |
#105 |
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Dr. Khurana's Credentials: |
marions ghost |
Jun-24-08 02:29 PM |
#108 |
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Alphabet soup does not make good science. |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 03:11 PM |
#113 |
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Bush went to Yale. |
NeedleCast |
Jun-24-08 03:20 PM |
#115 |
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Thanks to the closed hearing mandated by the Telecommunications Act of 1996 |
tom_paine |
Jun-24-08 03:21 PM |
#116 |
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NOBODY knows about this, at least none of the Amerikan Subject Populace. |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 04:13 PM |
#133 |
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I am certainly open to looking at your data. Please supply links. You've gotta back it up. |
tom_paine |
Jun-24-08 04:37 PM |
#136 |
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Just read my responsed in this thread |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 05:50 PM |
#145 |
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Why the hell are people rec'ing this?? |
mconvente |
Jun-24-08 03:38 PM |
#118 |
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recommendations are made in an effort to have others read the post. |
lonestarnot |
Jun-24-08 03:44 PM |
#120 |
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Phone on Garth! |
lonestarnot |
Jun-24-08 03:45 PM |
#122 |
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Nicotine is a hell of a drug. |
onehandle |
Jun-24-08 03:56 PM |
#125 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-24-08 08:44 PM |
#170 |
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Bullshit. nt |
onehandle |
Jun-24-08 03:49 PM |
#123 |
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For god sakes, you people actually believe this shit?! |
CRF450 |
Jun-24-08 04:03 PM |
#130 |
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you're joking right? |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jun-24-08 05:48 PM |
#144 |
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And I am sure you are as educated as this "fear mongering idiot". |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-24-08 06:28 PM |
#150 |
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Awards |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 06:40 PM |
#154 |
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The awards are only part of his credentials... |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-24-08 07:18 PM |
#158 |
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Do some research before you start name calling |
jeff47 |
Jun-25-08 12:42 PM |
#187 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-24-08 07:34 PM |
#160 |
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Wow.... |
kay1864 |
Jun-24-08 11:24 PM |
#177 |
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eforcity.com a great place to find those headsets and save your brain...repubs, sorry too late |
happygoluckytoyou |
Jun-24-08 04:04 PM |
#131 |
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Repubs and those who reject science |
Lorien |
Jun-24-08 04:32 PM |
#134 |
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They'll go with what they feel and want to believe over any study. |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 05:57 PM |
#147 |
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Who needs one more link to the grid anyway? |
DailyGrind51 |
Jun-24-08 05:05 PM |
#139 |
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exactly |
blindpig |
Jun-25-08 12:47 PM |
#188 |
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LOL yeah right....tinfoil anyone? |
ileus |
Jun-24-08 05:10 PM |
#140 |
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I don't think you can dismiss a resume like this simply by saying "tinfoil" |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-24-08 08:52 PM |
#171 |
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You're right |
jeff47 |
Jun-25-08 12:35 PM |
#186 |
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You had your mind made up before you even looked at the paper... |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-25-08 05:07 PM |
#192 |
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wonder what this god damn wireless router sitting here on my desk is doing to me? |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jun-24-08 05:33 PM |
#141 |
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It's slightly increasing your body temperature |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 05:54 PM |
#146 |
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Thank you for your excellent informative posts in this thread |
kay1864 |
Jun-24-08 11:21 PM |
#176 |
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Well ...you shouldn't be smoking mobile phones. |
L0oniX |
Jun-24-08 06:23 PM |
#149 |
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Nice! |
Orrex |
Jun-24-08 08:17 PM |
#167 |
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Always use headsets. |
Dr_eldritch |
Jun-24-08 06:39 PM |
#153 |
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Link to his actual paper |
jeff47 |
Jun-24-08 07:39 PM |
#162 |
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My first thought |
djohnson |
Jun-24-08 08:21 PM |
#168 |
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Does ANYONE realize that this is all the same ONE GUY CLAIMING THIS? |
TheWraith |
Jun-24-08 08:53 PM |
#172 |
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Thanks for this i've heard about this for years |
LibertyorDeath |
Jun-24-08 09:30 PM |
#175 |
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