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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-23-08 05:03 PM
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14. Yes, most Americans say they believe
but do very little in their lives that would suggest they are any different from most atheists/agnostics.

Church and prayer aside, in my experience the average Christian (I only say Christian because I grew up Christian and that's the majority religion here in the US) is no more likely to be a "good" person than the average atheist. They are no less likely to cheat, lie or steal, or to show empathy and forgiveness or be generous, etc.

Keep in mind, I'm NOT saying they are less likely (although when it comes to repressed zealots they are often the worst hypocrites), just no more likely than your basic non-theist.

That's why people should be judged based on their actions rather than their professed beliefs. As much as I despise zealots I respect the fact that they really do believe and that they act on those beliefs (yes, the actions are often outrageous and damaging, but that's another story).
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  -Holy Moly! Is America really this religious? RiverStone  Jun-23-08 04:35 PM   #0 
  - Where the Hell did they take THAT poll???  Rick Myers   Jun-23-08 04:36 PM   #1 
  - at churches  SoCalDem   Jun-23-08 05:13 PM   #18 
     - that's gotta be it, then. nt  Spock_is_Skeptical   Jun-23-08 10:51 PM   #41 
  - You don't have to be religious to believe in God or heaven.  Drunken Irishman   Jun-23-08 04:40 PM   #2 
  - Question for you...  RiverStone   Jun-23-08 04:44 PM   #4 
     - I guess it depends.  Drunken Irishman   Jun-23-08 04:51 PM   #6 
     - I value your take...  RiverStone   Jun-23-08 04:54 PM   #7 
     - Yes, most Americans say they believe  ihavenobias   Jun-23-08 05:03 PM   #14 
     - No, absolutely not.  johnaries   Jun-23-08 04:58 PM   #10 
        - Yes! "I'm glad more people are finding god and leaving the church." Lenny Bruce  Echo In Light   Jun-23-08 05:54 PM   #24 
  - The wierdest thing to me  Somawas   Jun-23-08 04:42 PM   #3 
  - There are a lot of people who don't know the difference between atheism and agnosticism  MN Against Bush   Jun-23-08 05:02 PM   #13 
     - I just related what the article said.  Somawas   Jun-23-08 09:33 PM   #32 
  - actually I read something recently.......  tulsakatz   Jun-23-08 04:49 PM   #5 
  - A secret ballot ...  Drifter   Jun-23-08 04:55 PM   #8 
  - I am agnostic, so do I believe in God?  MN Against Bush   Jun-23-08 04:57 PM   #9 
  - I'm an agnostic in that I can't disprove the existence of a God...  ihavenobias   Jun-23-08 05:10 PM   #16 
  - and if one is under-educated, dead-tired from working 3 shit-jobs  SoCalDem   Jun-23-08 05:16 PM   #19 
  - The poll asks whether people believe in 'God' or a 'universal power'  kineta   Jun-23-08 04:59 PM   #11 
  - could be their all like my friend from h.s. who wasn't sure if there's a god but was afraid not to  Iris   Jun-23-08 05:01 PM   #12 
  - Too bad religious doesn't equate with peace and love of fellow human beings..  mmonk   Jun-23-08 05:04 PM   #15 
  - not for nothing, but I think 90% of DU believes in God  mdmc   Jun-23-08 05:11 PM   #17 
  - Probably more like 50%.  ozone_man   Jun-23-08 07:48 PM   #31 
  - Luke 13:22-30; Matthew 7:15-23; Matthew 23:23-28  MrCoffee   Jun-23-08 05:21 PM   #20 
  - I want to know how many people know these Bible verses...  MN Against Bush   Jun-23-08 05:28 PM   #21 
  - They should ask how many people think they're going to heaven  hokies4ever   Jun-23-08 06:29 PM   #28 
  - No.  cornermouse   Jun-23-08 05:32 PM   #22 
  - Was just looking at the Pew Survey and it's got problems...  JackRiddler   Jun-23-08 05:39 PM   #23 
  - Well, It IS a PEW survey after all. (They ask people who are sitting in PEWS!) n/t  Wiley50   Jun-24-08 07:40 PM   #47 
  - No.  fifthgendem   Jun-23-08 06:13 PM   #25 
  - Sometimes I wonder...  Blue Belle   Jun-23-08 06:18 PM   #26 
  - It's called hedging your bets  hokies4ever   Jun-23-08 06:27 PM   #27 
  - difference believing in god, higher power ect... and religious. 90%  seabeyond   Jun-23-08 06:32 PM   #29 
  - Yes, there is such a thing as the religious left.  intheflow   Jun-23-08 06:47 PM   #30 
  - No, the survey misrepresents its own results to maximize the God thing.  JackRiddler   Jun-23-08 09:36 PM   #33 
  - "Religious" does not equal "Believe in God." I think the study is accurate.  faithfulcitizen   Jun-23-08 09:37 PM   #34 
  - I'm always amazed to see liberals who treat those two ideas as equivalent.  BullGooseLoony   Jun-23-08 10:47 PM   #39 
  - It depends on how you define "religious"  Rage for Order   Jun-23-08 10:33 PM   #35 
  - Yes, I believe 90% is correct. Don't confuse "believing in god" with "religious" though  Levgreee   Jun-23-08 10:37 PM   #36 
  - Yes believe it or not there is even a religious left.  Wizard777   Jun-23-08 10:43 PM   #37 
  - It's a mistake not to pander to Christians and believers and I hope Obama does..  cbc5g   Jun-23-08 10:45 PM   #38 
  - what a bullshit poll.  Spock_is_Skeptical   Jun-23-08 10:50 PM   #40 
  - i'll bet 60% think Jeebus looked like Kenny Rodgers on a really good day  bridgit   Jun-23-08 10:54 PM   #42 
  - I don't think they got a good sample..seems skewed.  krabigirl   Jun-23-08 11:17 PM   #43 
  - The Pacific Northwest is the most secular region of the country  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-23-08 11:56 PM   #44 
  - That is rather pathetic..90%  and-justice-for-all   Jun-24-08 07:15 PM   #45 
  - I saw that on the news  ismnotwasm   Jun-24-08 07:29 PM   #46 
 

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