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97. Ironically, in certain cities, such as the DC area, immigrants bring chicken coops to the suburbs.
Nobody seems to mind. My town even adopted one of the local chickens :shrug:
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  -You. Will. Not. Be. Able. To. Get. Food. robertpaulsen  Jun-23-08 12:09 PM   #0 
  - Yes. Grow as many vegetables and fruits locally as possible. And first step will be "no meat"  villager   Jun-23-08 12:11 PM   #1 
  - Personally, I'd be thrilled if the factory farming system went extinct  Oregonian   Jun-23-08 12:13 PM   #2 
  - I've already made the first step. I'm a vegetarian.  RebelOne   Jun-23-08 12:13 PM   #5 
  - Beef uses a vast amount of water to produce, too.  yardwork   Jun-23-08 12:31 PM   #21 
  - Unless you get locally raised pasture fed animals.  knitter4democracy   Jun-23-08 12:48 PM   #41 
  - out of curiosity, what part of the country is this?  villager   Jun-23-08 02:28 PM   #59 
  - most of the Midwest  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 03:42 PM   #87 
  - Me too--here in Minnesota  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-23-08 03:44 PM   #88 
     - yes  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 04:09 PM   #95 
        - That's for sure  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-23-08 06:07 PM   #128 
        - it really surprised me  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 08:50 PM   #163 
           - Where are you located?  mntleo2   Jun-24-08 10:25 AM   #259 
           - Our first problem is crops burning up; obviously animals as "meat" will end ---  defendandprotect   Jun-24-08 11:00 AM   #265 
        - I think you're on to something with that theory.  knitter4democracy   Jun-23-08 07:33 PM   #148 
  - I live in Michigan.  knitter4democracy   Jun-23-08 07:31 PM   #147 
  - shouldn't be too much of a problem here, either  kineneb   Jun-23-08 03:15 PM   #68 
  - I prefer getting mine locally.  knitter4democracy   Jun-23-08 07:34 PM   #149 
  - We've been doing more-or-less the same thing for years.  Jackpine Radical   Jun-24-08 12:30 AM   #203 
     - That's true about venison.  knitter4democracy   Jun-24-08 09:36 AM   #250 
        - We give a lot to low-income Hmong people who have settled in our area.  Jackpine Radical   Jun-24-08 03:27 PM   #301 
           - That's a great idea!  knitter4democracy   Jun-24-08 04:25 PM   #313 
  - The best idea is to just  eilen   Jun-24-08 04:59 AM   #232 
  - The reality of what Hansen is saying is getting to you and you're planning to  defendandprotect   Jun-24-08 11:02 AM   #267 
     - There is a balance you know  Grinchie   Jun-24-08 11:55 AM   #274 
        - True. . . "The Earth In Balance" is distorted by animal killing --  defendandprotect   Jun-24-08 12:00 PM   #276 
           - If we don't eat them, they're going to go extinct  krispos42   Jun-24-08 01:53 PM   #291 
              - It's your job to eat chickens so they won't "go extinct" . . . ??!!!!  defendandprotect   Jun-24-08 09:13 PM   #333 
                 - what is the big difference?  eilen   Jun-25-08 08:42 AM   #341 
  - You can still fish (if your lakes aren't polluted) and raise chickens  Liberty Belle   Jun-24-08 10:45 AM   #262 
  - When I was young, you bought eggs in an egg store  Fredda Weinberg   Jun-23-08 12:13 PM   #3 
  - I had an uncle who used to sell eggs  eleny   Jun-23-08 12:29 PM   #20 
  - And they call it progress ... we'll adapt ... we always have  Fredda Weinberg   Jun-23-08 12:39 PM   #29 
     - We have neighbors around the corner who sell eggs  eleny   Jun-23-08 03:13 PM   #65 
        - I'm not surprised you know your neighbors. That's the character  Fredda Weinberg   Jun-23-08 07:04 PM   #138 
        - We all need eggloos!  ClayZ   Jun-24-08 01:55 AM   #227 
  - I use to drive with my grandpa to the egg farm... I went to school  midnight   Jun-23-08 01:05 PM   #51 
  - Some chickens can really smell strong  eleny   Jun-23-08 03:15 PM   #67 
  - When I was young, you literally went to the farm to get fresh eggs  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-23-08 03:45 PM   #89 
     - We have community gardens here in Brooklyn. I worked with one of  Fredda Weinberg   Jun-23-08 07:07 PM   #139 
  - wish we had an "Emergency Preparedness" Forum here  NightWatcher   Jun-23-08 12:13 PM   #4 
  - There was an excellent and very informative thread on DU about this maybe a couple months ago  Oregonian   Jun-23-08 12:23 PM   #11 
  - there were actually two threads about trying to start a forum  NightWatcher   Jun-23-08 12:24 PM   #12 
     - Here is one thread I was thinking of ... There might be another similar one  Oregonian   Jun-23-08 12:26 PM   #16 
     - Thanks so much for that link. Yes, we need an Emergency Preparedness Forum!  robertpaulsen   Jun-23-08 12:48 PM   #39 
     - I don't know what happened  Mojorabbit   Jun-23-08 12:37 PM   #28 
        - I don't think I've ever been this scared about the future.  Oregonian   Jun-23-08 12:54 PM   #45 
  - Propose it to the Admins. It may be time. nt  Hekate   Jun-23-08 03:30 PM   #81 
  - is there a "sustainable living" forum?  onethatcares   Jun-23-08 05:02 PM   #111 
  - That's not a bad idea..  MadMaddie   Jun-23-08 10:00 PM   #174 
  - People better learn how to forage real quick in a scnario like that.  arcadian   Jun-23-08 12:17 PM   #6 
  - I just got some  countingbluecars   Jun-23-08 12:17 PM   #7 
  - i hear it tastes like people...how bad can it be?  Blue_Tires   Jun-23-08 01:01 PM   #50 
  - 1 yr. Then my medicine runs out and I die.  uppityperson   Jun-23-08 12:18 PM   #8 
  - I guess that's where I'm at as well  IDemo   Jun-23-08 12:46 PM   #38 
  - Jerusalem Artichokes  FedUpWithIt All   Jun-23-08 07:20 PM   #142 
     - Mine is thyroid. Would need a whole bunch of pigs to get their thyroid glands.  uppityperson   Jun-23-08 08:35 PM   #161 
        - My mistake...  FedUpWithIt All   Jun-23-08 11:39 PM   #195 
        - Interesting problem that affects millions of people.  Perragrande   Jun-24-08 01:27 AM   #220 
        - read 1/3 people in USA have thyroid issues, very sensitive gland  uppityperson   Jun-24-08 03:39 PM   #303 
        - It's extremely common.  knitter4democracy   Jun-24-08 04:24 PM   #312 
        - I read an article that said there's a chemical found to cause thyroid problems;  Liberty Belle   Jun-24-08 10:53 AM   #264 
           - Ours won't recover, 1 of us got nuked, other surgically removed.  uppityperson   Jun-24-08 03:41 PM   #304 
              - Autoimmune diseases of all kinds are more common.  Perragrande   Jun-24-08 05:36 PM   #324 
  - I'll be eating chicken  corkhead   Jun-23-08 12:19 PM   #9 
  - Lots of insects are edible, too!  Zodiak Ironfist   Jun-24-08 04:33 PM   #317 
     - If deer flies, mosquitoes, horse flies, and Japanese Beetles are among those then I won't starve lol  corkhead   Jun-24-08 04:55 PM   #320 
        - well...  Zodiak Ironfist   Jun-24-08 08:27 PM   #332 
  - I live on a spring fed lake  Mojorabbit   Jun-23-08 12:20 PM   #10 
  - Tell us about your solar freezer!  janeaustin   Jun-23-08 12:25 PM   #15 
  - Here it is  Mojorabbit   Jun-23-08 12:33 PM   #26 
     - Finally, a top-loading refrigerator!  eppur_se_muova   Jun-24-08 04:27 PM   #314 
  - That is so impressive!  yardwork   Jun-23-08 12:32 PM   #25 
  - Last year everything was great. This year we are facing famine & global collapse of civilization.  The_Casual_Observer   Jun-23-08 12:24 PM   #13 
  - Unless you live in Michigan.  knitter4democracy   Jun-23-08 12:50 PM   #42 
  - Famine in Michigan? How many have starved to death?  Freddie Stubbs   Jun-23-08 03:16 PM   #69 
     - We're having trouble, which is odd considering how much we grow.  knitter4democracy   Jun-23-08 07:36 PM   #151 
        - it is a travesty  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 09:06 PM   #167 
           - Exactly. I've often wondered that.  knitter4democracy   Jun-24-08 09:28 AM   #246 
  - Past years were great, only if you weren't aware of environmental changes . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-24-08 11:05 AM   #268 
  - For the last six weeks  yella_dawg   Jun-23-08 12:24 PM   #14 
  - steal it from the gluttonous rich  Neo   Jun-23-08 12:27 PM   #17 
  - "Hand over your groceries and SUV. We're doing a scientific experiment."  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-23-08 04:25 PM   #96 
  - Everyone who can should get chickens.  SmokingJacket   Jun-23-08 12:28 PM   #18 
  - Yes, the suburbs and homeowner's associations will have to adapt.  yardwork   Jun-23-08 12:34 PM   #27 
  - I'm going to see if I can talk with our city councilman about it.  knitter4democracy   Jun-23-08 12:58 PM   #48 
  - You go girl! I'd love to have a hive of bees outside my condo.  yardwork   Jun-23-08 02:05 PM   #58 
  - I'm getting two chickens pretty soon  undergroundpanther   Jun-23-08 10:57 PM   #189 
     - I really wish I could do that.  knitter4democracy   Jun-24-08 09:30 AM   #248 
  - Ironically, in certain cities, such as the DC area, immigrants bring chicken coops to the suburbs.  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-23-08 04:27 PM   #97 
  - My neighbors had chickens in suburban NJ.  michele77   Jun-24-08 09:18 AM   #245 
  - Think that's bad?  Tafiti   Jun-24-08 11:52 AM   #273 
  - We have chickens....only eighteen....we keep five families in eggs.  snappyturtle   Jun-24-08 09:28 AM   #247 
  - What do thet eat? Grain? What if chicken food runs out? n/t  bluedawg12   Jun-25-08 12:25 AM   #339 
  - That's. Great. Because. I.Will.Be.Reading. In.A.Malnourished.And. Stunted.Manner  DS1   Jun-23-08 12:29 PM   #19 
  - I have a big enough house - you can live with us (bring your So..)  OhioBlues   Jun-23-08 12:53 PM   #44 
     - *jots down name*  DS1   Jun-23-08 07:34 PM   #150 
  - I planted another patch of beans this Morning.  formercia   Jun-23-08 12:32 PM   #22 
  - America has one of the largest food surpluses in the world.  cobalt1999   Jun-23-08 12:32 PM   #23 
  - hmmmm  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 05:29 PM   #114 
  - reserves are low because it's deliberate policy to keep them  Hannah Bell   Jun-23-08 07:52 PM   #154 
     - correct  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 09:54 PM   #173 
  - No - the US is a net importer  bhikkhu   Jun-23-08 06:18 PM   #129 
  - not according to usda. i fell for that same website, but when i  Hannah Bell   Jun-23-08 08:02 PM   #157 
  - interesting  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 10:39 PM   #185 
  - it was a forecast, and also in some monthly stats  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 10:55 PM   #188 
     - Thanks. Being close to parity is a comfort.  bhikkhu   Jun-24-08 12:20 AM   #201 
  - It is perhaps true on a dollar value, but not on a caloric value.  amandabeech   Jun-23-08 08:54 PM   #164 
     - please offer some proof for your claim. fruits & veg from peru & chile  Hannah Bell   Jun-23-08 10:15 PM   #180 
        - I would have more interest in looking at your link if you hadn't closed in a snotty manner.  amandabeech   Jun-24-08 09:14 AM   #244 
           - the only comment that could conceivably be viewed as "snotty"  Hannah Bell   Jun-24-08 11:11 AM   #271 
  - Well the big problem is shipping it...  Jack_DeLeon   Jun-24-08 05:53 AM   #238 
  - Find a Community Supported Agriculture group in your area.  terip64   Jun-23-08 12:32 PM   #24 
  - or an agriculture supported community  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 07:06 PM   #327 
  - wow!  dana_b   Jun-25-08 12:41 AM   #340 
  - This is usually where some strange DUers attack those raising the issue of OVERPOPULATION based on  The Stranger   Jun-23-08 12:39 PM   #30 
  - Overpopulation will take care of itself  hogwyld   Jun-23-08 12:43 PM   #35 
  - I was sort of hoping to avoid the part about the "massive global famine, disease . . . war."  The Stranger   Jun-23-08 03:41 PM   #85 
  - this is usually where some posters start babbling about the  Hannah Bell   Jun-23-08 08:04 PM   #158 
     - yeah  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 12:35 AM   #205 
     - Right on cue.  The Stranger   Jun-24-08 11:21 AM   #272 
  - My dad used to say the same crap  melody   Jun-23-08 12:41 PM   #31 
  - "There can be emergency systems set in place."  robertpaulsen   Jun-23-08 03:41 PM   #86 
     - I've read the Hirsch Report  melody   Jun-23-08 04:47 PM   #107 
        - OK, you've read it.  robertpaulsen   Jun-23-08 05:42 PM   #119 
           - It's 108 degrees here, Robert  melody   Jun-23-08 06:42 PM   #133 
           - Sure. Good luck finding shade!  robertpaulsen   Jun-23-08 06:59 PM   #136 
           - Feeling cooler today?  robertpaulsen   Jun-24-08 05:13 PM   #322 
           - And, as I figured would be the case, that's where the discussion ends.  TheWatcher   Jun-23-08 06:56 PM   #135 
              - Ask and ye shall receive.  robertpaulsen   Jun-23-08 07:04 PM   #137 
                 - Thank You robert. :)  TheWatcher   Jun-23-08 07:51 PM   #153 
  - I tell all my family members that everytime they go grocery shopping,  cat_girl25   Jun-23-08 12:41 PM   #32 
  - I hope you also tell them to regularly USE UP the oldest canned goods  bean fidhleir   Jun-23-08 12:51 PM   #43 
  - How long is very long?  hogwyld   Jun-23-08 01:25 PM   #54 
     - It seems to vary with the product. I went to my pantry just this instant  bean fidhleir   Jun-23-08 01:56 PM   #57 
     - Homecanned stuff only lasts a year.  knitter4democracy   Jun-24-08 09:38 AM   #251 
  - Every month I buy an extra bag of rice and an extra sack of flour and  eilen   Jun-24-08 05:13 AM   #233 
  - strange, isn't it?  northzax   Jun-24-08 02:58 PM   #297 
     - But everyone will not go out and do it  Mojorabbit   Jun-24-08 03:48 PM   #306 
        - doesn't change the fact that you are recommending hoarding  northzax   Jun-24-08 04:03 PM   #309 
           - It is not hoarding  Mojorabbit   Jun-24-08 04:34 PM   #318 
              - I agree. nt  cat_girl25   Jun-24-08 07:54 PM   #331 
  - Plant edibles. Let everything go to seed.  roody   Jun-23-08 12:42 PM   #33 
  - Good advice  conscious evolution   Jun-23-08 07:18 PM   #141 
  - I started a garden- am learning to can food, and have stocked up on a few things.  Marrah_G   Jun-23-08 12:42 PM   #34 
  - Hubby and I really got into canning last year.  knitter4democracy   Jun-23-08 12:59 PM   #49 
  - I have 9 tomato plants - not sure if I should get a few more or not.  Marrah_G   Jun-23-08 01:07 PM   #52 
     - I think we're up to ten.  knitter4democracy   Jun-23-08 01:11 PM   #53 
  - Yeah, I wish solar panels were not so expensive  eilen   Jun-24-08 05:17 AM   #234 
  - They are looting the world- we need to expose this crap, not find a way to put up with it!  MartyL   Jun-23-08 12:45 PM   #36 
  - Holy crap, Robert! I just came from reading this article only to  Texas Explorer   Jun-23-08 12:46 PM   #37 
  - On the headstone of the hypochondriac  melody   Jun-23-08 03:06 PM   #61 
  - You've got that right.  robertpaulsen   Jun-23-08 03:20 PM   # 
     - Thanks =)! I was inspired.Buy a t-shirt and help fund my preps =)! n/t  Texas Explorer   Jun-23-08 07:20 PM   #143 
  - No, not really.  SimpleTrend   Jun-23-08 12:48 PM   #40 
  - Kind of a dumb strategy IMO...  Jack_DeLeon   Jun-24-08 06:00 AM   #239 
  - EAT. THE. RICH. (n/t)  FreepFryer   Jun-23-08 12:56 PM   #46 
  - their attitudes may taste like shit but they go real good with wine  Connonym   Jun-23-08 04:29 PM   #99 
  - Red or white?  conscious evolution   Jun-24-08 07:21 PM   #328 
  - !!!  Blue State Native   Jun-24-08 09:52 AM   #258 
  - I'm not so sure. I think it'll depend on where you live.  knitter4democracy   Jun-23-08 12:57 PM   #47 
  - We'll just have to reach out to others if the worst happens  melody   Jun-23-08 03:10 PM   #64 
  - And the sky will fall.  aikoaiko   Jun-23-08 01:30 PM   #55 
  - Bit of an Alarmist, No?  ribofunk   Jun-23-08 01:52 PM   #56 
  - Oh, don't spoil their fun  melody   Jun-23-08 03:08 PM   #63 
  - No, actually no  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 03:13 PM   #66 
  - not around here.  QuestionAll   Jun-23-08 03:17 PM   #70 
  - Actually  Mojorabbit   Jun-24-08 01:25 PM   #288 
  - They're hoping for a great die-out in the billions  melody   Jun-23-08 03:27 PM   #78 
     - What was the population density and the expectation for dying of old age?  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 04:43 PM   #103 
     - We also have a stronger ability to manage our environment than in the past  melody   Jun-23-08 04:45 PM   #104 
        - Look at the Maya Collapse for an example  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 04:49 PM   #108 
           - We have the technological capacity to address it  melody   Jun-23-08 04:54 PM   #110 
              - Technology will not save us from ourselves  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 05:34 PM   #115 
                 - Technology is a reflection of our biology  melody   Jun-23-08 06:40 PM   #132 
                    - First I did not say we are going to die  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 09:03 PM   #166 
                       - We are a unique primate species in a unique situation  melody   Jun-23-08 10:04 PM   #177 
                       - To me that is magical thinking  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 10:19 PM   #181 
                       - To me, yours is reductionist thinking  melody   Jun-23-08 11:04 PM   #191 
                          - Not quite melody  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 11:48 PM   #197 
                          - science has saved us  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 01:06 AM   #213 
                             - and science has also gotten us (partially mind you) into this pickle  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-24-08 01:10 AM   #214 
                                - I agree  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 01:38 AM   #223 
                          - Nihilism! Nail meets head of hammer  HamdenRice   Jun-25-08 12:10 PM   #343 
                       - "We can manipulate our entire environment" ? Pure mythology. nt  greyl   Jun-24-08 12:41 AM   #206 
                          - Not in the least  melody   Jun-24-08 02:08 AM   #228 
                             - No, totally.  greyl   Jun-24-08 11:30 PM   #336 
                                - What a bizarre argument -- of course we manipulate our environment  HamdenRice   Jun-25-08 12:00 PM   #342 
                       - 100% are going to die  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 12:58 AM   #210 
                          - You may be resistant but people in the field of feeding people  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-24-08 01:05 AM   #212 
                             - I know  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 01:42 AM   #224 
     - It's also the same people that think a recession or a market pullback is the end of the world.....  A HERETIC I AM   Jun-23-08 06:00 PM   #126 
     - yup, exactly n/t  melody   Jun-23-08 06:43 PM   #134 
     - I am hoping the population does not double again  bhikkhu   Jun-24-08 12:52 AM   #209 
        - There is if you want your children to survive but others to die  melody   Jun-24-08 06:41 AM   #240 
           - Who here wants that?  bhikkhu   Jun-24-08 10:30 AM   #260 
              - how then?  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 03:35 PM   #302 
                 - A birth-rate lower than "replacement"  bhikkhu   Jun-24-08 10:18 PM   #334 
  - If I had a nickel for every one of these I'd read. eom  donco6   Jun-23-08 03:38 PM   #83 
  - Hi, ribofunk.  tom_paine   Jun-24-08 04:32 PM   #316 
     - Hi, tom_paine  ribofunk   Jun-24-08 11:44 PM   #337 
  - What about Sci-Fi Channel?  NeedleCast   Jun-23-08 02:45 PM   #60 
  - Maybe, but they will only show reruns, already cancelled series and bad B-movies  htuttle   Jun-23-08 03:21 PM   #74 
  - With Battlestar Galatica wrapped up  NeedleCast   Jun-23-08 03:23 PM   #76 
  - Only on premium. And you'll have to pay for broadcast TV  Leopolds Ghost   Jun-23-08 04:30 PM   #100 
  - Yes. I. Will.  leftyclimber   Jun-23-08 03:08 PM   #62 
  - So. Will. I.  QuestionAll   Jun-23-08 03:20 PM   #72 
  - food is not dependent on oil  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 03:19 PM   #71 
  - Not quite, quite a bit of fertilizers in the green revolution  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 03:20 PM   #73 
  - still the same dynamic nadin  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 03:40 PM   #84 
     - I'm not blaming farming  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 04:45 PM   #105 
     - They are still in denial about it. It is too late for them to come around.  The Stranger   Jun-23-08 05:13 PM   #112 
     - who?  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 05:41 PM   #118 
     - ok, yes  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 05:34 PM   #116 
     - Food production has also increased due to industrial techniques that are not  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 05:44 PM   #120 
        - There's more to it than that.  sofa king   Jun-23-08 06:05 PM   #127 
        - nitrogen  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 09:50 PM   #172 
        - No I am not arguing for agribusiness  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-24-08 01:02 AM   #211 
        - Actually the fertilizers come from natural gas. It's the sulfur in the fertilizers  Javaman   Jun-24-08 08:57 AM   #243 
           - or rock  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 02:24 PM   #294 
     - one more thing...  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 05:39 PM   #117 
        - I realize that but if your TOTAL YIELD goes down  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 05:47 PM   #121 
           - maybe  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 05:53 PM   #124 
              - Unfortunately I am not talking of the US exclusively  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 05:58 PM   #125 
                 - slippery and meaningless definition  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 07:28 PM   #146 
                    - This slippery definition is the accepted definition under BIOLOGICAL science  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 08:19 PM   #159 
                       - yes and no  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 09:15 PM   #168 
                          - Ok what I gave you was the ACCEPTED definition  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 10:21 PM   #182 
                             - ok  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 11:10 PM   #192 
                                - Use the google to find out just how much nitrogen based fertilizers  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-23-08 11:44 PM   #196 
                                   - natural gas  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 12:04 AM   #198 
                                      - And that is the point  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-24-08 12:18 AM   #200 
                                         - understood  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 12:25 AM   #202 
                                            - Yes, at this point peak oil and climate change  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-24-08 12:34 AM   #204 
                                            - ok, agreement  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 01:27 AM   #219 
                                            - I'm not saying we should let people starve  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-24-08 01:35 AM   #221 
                                            - we agree then  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 01:55 AM   #226 
                                            - Its all about the green revolution  bhikkhu   Jun-24-08 12:46 AM   #207 
                                            - I strongly, strongly recommend the book The Omnivore's Dilemma  Connonym   Jun-24-08 04:59 AM   #231 
     - "The green revolution is about supporting suburbanization..."  Raksha   Jun-23-08 05:53 PM   #123 
     - thanks  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 12:16 AM   #199 
     - No one is blaming farming, but Coporate Industrial Agriculture  SpiralHawk   Jun-24-08 07:57 AM   #241 
        - It's time to get rid of them, too.  knitter4democracy   Jun-24-08 09:40 AM   #252 
        - you can't know that  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 12:55 PM   #285 
  - Food will be sourced locally, if the worst happens  melody   Jun-23-08 03:28 PM   #79 
  - right  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 03:49 PM   #91 
  - True, however there is a bigger picture  arikara   Jun-23-08 03:36 PM   #82 
  - it need not be  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 03:54 PM   #92 
  - Right now, farmers use plenty of oil.  amandabeech   Jun-23-08 09:24 PM   #169 
     - of course  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 10:59 PM   #190 
  - I'm about to have my tiny yard plowed up for veggie planting. If it comes to that, the side yard...  Hekate   Jun-23-08 03:21 PM   #75 
  - Ah, bullshit. Not going to happen. Pure fearmongering, right there.  Redstone   Jun-23-08 03:25 PM   #77 
  - Amen n/t  melody   Jun-23-08 03:28 PM   #80 
  - Is it just me  LanternWaste   Jun-23-08 03:47 PM   #90 
  - Eek, the Rapture Ready boards!  GreenEyedLefty   Jun-23-08 04:02 PM   #93 
  - Yup, bingo n/t  melody   Jun-23-08 04:46 PM   #106 
  - true enough  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 04:28 PM   #98 
  - Hey, thanks for the info about the bees. I did not know that was overblown hysteria.  Redstone   Jun-23-08 05:21 PM   #113 
  - even the Einstein quote  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 10:02 PM   #175 
     - Sure there was a lot of BS, but are you saying these people are not telling the truth?  OurVotesCount-Ohio   Jun-24-08 12:17 PM   #280 
     - no, certainly not  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 02:10 PM   #292 
     - This is not true  Mojorabbit   Jun-24-08 03:26 PM   #300 
        - I talk to the same people  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 03:50 PM   #307 
           - I went to a regional beekeeping  Mojorabbit   Jun-24-08 04:46 PM   #319 
              - I know  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 05:24 PM   #323 
                 - I think the publicity  Mojorabbit   Jun-24-08 06:41 PM   #325 
                    - wow  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 07:39 PM   #329 
     - my theory  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 03:18 PM   #299 
     - I am a beekeeper  Mojorabbit   Jun-24-08 01:39 PM   #289 
        - right  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 02:26 PM   #295 
  - So Refershing to See This Here.  NeedleCast   Jun-23-08 10:11 PM   #178 
  - I think it might depend on which part of the country you're in.  glitch   Jun-24-08 01:23 PM   #287 
  - There may not be massive famine but there will be a helluva lot of hunger  Connonym   Jun-23-08 04:40 PM   #102 
  - Until a comet smashes into the planet, I'll still be able to buy Cheetos.  Ikonoklast   Jun-23-08 06:20 PM   #130 
  - But. Every. Word. In. The. Title. Of. This. Thread. Was. Followed. By. A. Period.  Telly Savalas   Jun-23-08 07:27 PM   #145 
     - Oh. shit. I. forgot. about. that.  Redstone   Jun-23-08 08:46 PM   #162 
  - I'm mentally ready-I think-but we still have so much to do.  TheGoldenRule   Jun-23-08 04:02 PM   #94 
  - Then we will die.  SidneyCarton   Jun-23-08 04:36 PM   #101 
  - oh, come on  galledgoblin   Jun-23-08 04:51 PM   #109 
  - that's it  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 05:49 PM   #122 
     - I wouldn't go so far as to say that personal alternatives work against public ag policy  galledgoblin   Jun-23-08 07:36 PM   #152 
        - they wouldn't need to  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 07:58 PM   #156 
           - I've seen ecosystems wrecked by modern farming practices  galledgoblin   Jun-23-08 08:54 PM   #165 
              - of course  Two Americas   Jun-23-08 09:37 PM   #171 
  - So. Stop. Eating. Meat.  Codeine   Jun-23-08 06:23 PM   #131 
  - no. I. love. my . steaks. nt.  conspirator   Jun-24-08 10:33 AM   #261 
     - And what about the violence involved in that "love" . . . ???  defendandprotect   Jun-24-08 11:08 AM   #269 
        - I couldn't care less.  Political Heretic   Jun-25-08 02:43 PM   #346 
  - What a day. First a $600 electric bill, and now no food. I'm thinking we need to move up the  TBF   Jun-23-08 07:11 PM   #140 
  - How do you have a $600 electric bill?  hogwyld   Jun-24-08 12:02 PM   #279 
     - Our house is pretty big but I'm concerned about that too. I think I need to have the A/C  TBF   Jun-24-08 03:05 PM   #298 
  - I have stockpiles of canned food, and am TRYING to learn how to grow a garden  carlyhippy   Jun-23-08 07:21 PM   #144 
  - Something's been getting to my beans and basil.  knitter4democracy   Jun-24-08 09:43 AM   #254 
  - To those growing gardens...  yawnmaster   Jun-23-08 07:58 PM   #155 
  - I've been getting great yields from my square foot gardens.  knitter4democracy   Jun-24-08 09:44 AM   #255 
     - good yields here too...  yawnmaster   Jun-24-08 02:53 PM   #296 
        - It would be really hard. You'd have to have a couple of acres at least.  knitter4democracy   Jun-24-08 04:23 PM   #311 
  - Alarmist nonsense.  Edweird   Jun-23-08 08:27 PM   #160 
  - Community-supported agriculture, anyone?  otherlander   Jun-23-08 09:33 PM   #170 
  - We have definitely moved toward being locavores.  unsavedtrash   Jun-23-08 10:04 PM   #176 
  - The Moringa tree is he most nutrient rich tree in the world...might save us all  ElsewheresDaughter   Jun-23-08 10:14 PM   #179 
  - Interesting, thanks! nt  eppur_se_muova   Jun-24-08 04:31 PM   #315 
  - I planted one of these!  Mojorabbit   Jun-24-08 06:44 PM   #326 
  - YES I WILL !!! BET ME !!!  doublethink   Jun-23-08 10:27 PM   #183 
  - Ya know, I think this is mainly alarmist, BUT  Lisa0825   Jun-23-08 10:29 PM   #184 
  - I'm thinkin' Arby's  gatorboy   Jun-23-08 10:40 PM   #186 
  - ..  skooooo   Jun-24-08 01:12 AM   #215 
  - The nut that wrote this was telling us to prepare for a Y2K-induced collapse  NNN0LHI   Jun-23-08 10:51 PM   #187 
  - My neighbor STILL has her water stored from Y2K...  Phentex   Jun-24-08 11:56 AM   #275 
  - My neighbor directly across the street was storing hundreds of containers full of gas in his garage  NNN0LHI   Jun-24-08 12:50 PM   #283 
     - something like that did happen around here  NJCher   Jun-24-08 03:50 PM   #308 
  - No thanks, I'll leave the minimal research and ad hominem attacks to you.  robertpaulsen   Jun-24-08 01:47 PM   #290 
  - Good find. n/t  tom_paine   Jun-24-08 04:58 PM   #321 
  - I. Will. Butcher. You. And. Eat. You. With. Fava. Beans.  tomreedtoon   Jun-23-08 11:14 PM   #193 
  - Don't. Forget. The. Nice. Chianti.  robertpaulsen   Jun-24-08 12:53 PM   #284 
  - Self-unfulfilling  guyalapatie   Jun-23-08 11:15 PM   #194 
  - um. i. will . always. be. able. to. get.. food.  CasualWatcher9   Jun-24-08 12:48 AM   #208 
  - All you say...  misanthrope   Jun-24-08 01:16 AM   #216 
  - 3000 line up for food in Milwaukee...sign of the times to come?  NYC_SKP   Jun-24-08 01:18 AM   #217 
  - YEP that is one more sing of where we are going  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-24-08 01:36 AM   #222 
  - You. Mean. They. Were. Not. Able. To. Get. Food?  robertpaulsen   Jun-25-08 07:04 PM   #347 
  - Some things to do  Horse with no Name   Jun-24-08 01:18 AM   #218 
  - hey horse  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 02:44 AM   #229 
  - Hey there TA...likewise  Horse with no Name   Jun-24-08 02:59 AM   #230 
     - my opinion FWIW  Two Americas   Jun-24-08 02:22 PM   #293 
  - And...  solinvictus   Jun-24-08 05:41 AM   #235 
  - It is wise to consider what your resources are  eilen   Jun-24-08 05:41 AM   #236 
  - Corn produces one ear per plant per season  NNN0LHI   Jun-24-08 08:38 AM   #242 
  - You can grow a lot in a small space; there's a book on this:  Liberty Belle   Jun-24-08 11:00 AM   #266 
  - Better yet, get a sheep to live with those goats.  knitter4democracy   Jun-24-08 09:46 AM   #256 
  - Human Population Numbers as a Function of Food Supply - Hopfenberg and Pimentel  greyl   Jun-24-08 01:44 AM   #225 
  - Must see the documentary: Crude Impact- says just this  bluedawg12   Jun-25-08 12:22 AM   #338 
  - I dont think many people are truely prepared for it....  Jack_DeLeon   Jun-24-08 05:47 AM   #237 
  - Old news and info. You should have already been preparing by now.  L0oniX   Jun-24-08 09:31 AM   #249 
  - Stockpiling food...  pipi_k   Jun-24-08 09:42 AM   #253 
  - If you stockpile food, other people will have none . . . BUT . ..  defendandprotect   Jun-24-08 12:02 PM   #278 
  - M 2 cents worth  bonito   Jun-24-08 07:44 PM   #330 
  - Soylent Green time!  SoonerPride   Jun-24-08 09:47 AM   #257 
  - My boyfriend is Chinese. Every time I eat him I get hungry again  deaniac21   Jun-24-08 12:30 PM   #281 
  - FINALLY. Stockpile hell  sui generis   Jun-24-08 10:50 AM   #263 
  - Do. Not. Panic.  windoe   Jun-24-08 11:09 AM   #270 
  - We left The City, and moved to The Country in 2006.  bvar22   Jun-24-08 12:01 PM   #277 
  - Thank you very much for your informative, thoughtful and positive post.  robertpaulsen   Jun-24-08 12:43 PM   #282 
  - Less than 3 decades ago my grandad grew his own broad beans  baby_mouse   Jun-24-08 01:12 PM   #286 
  - Everyone I know is food.  ZombieHorde   Jun-24-08 03:46 PM   #305 
  - Arby's will never let me starve  theboss   Jun-24-08 04:11 PM   #310 
  - I am not particuliarly concerned about myself  Nikia   Jun-24-08 10:39 PM   #335 
  - Kick  hogwyld   Jun-25-08 02:38 PM   #344 
  - HOLY SHIT OH MY GOD AND OTHER EXCLAMATIONS OF....oh hell what a huge pile.  Political Heretic   Jun-25-08 02:42 PM   #345 
  - pffft  Chuggo   Jun-25-08 09:31 PM   #348 
 

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