| 190. But you can't steal that worshipped head of lettuce as that is illegal. |
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You can worship it, but certain acts are legislated. What you believe is free, what you do may not be.
That is something people fail to understand also about the "freedom of religion" thing.
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| -FLDS prophet's daughter, set to testify as an abuse victim, may now be missing. |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 05:25 PM |
#0 |
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Oh, but these people are harmless |
Frank Cannon |
Jun-20-08 05:27 PM |
#1 |
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Yeah, why are we persecuting them? |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 05:28 PM |
#2 |
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Because they dress funny and practice polygamy |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:06 PM |
#20 |
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No, because they are blindly following a leader who orders child rape. n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:29 PM |
#27 |
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Are they aborting the resulting babies? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:36 PM |
#30 |
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Their own "Bishops records" show underage girls "married" to older men. |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:41 PM |
#33 |
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The issue is - was it right to break up all these families? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 10:17 PM |
#42 |
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I think it was right to take them off the ranch to begin the investigation |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 10:42 PM |
#49 |
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The appellate court had ruled that CPS had no right to take these |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 11:01 AM |
#97 |
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"Polygamy" requires free will and choice. The FLDS practices CHILD SEX SLAVERY. Different. nm |
dicksteele |
Jun-21-08 10:07 AM |
#83 |
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Yet only one of these children was pregnant |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 11:04 AM |
#98 |
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Only 1 minor has ever been pregnant? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 12:03 PM |
#104 |
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Only one out of 440 who were taken from their families |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 12:27 PM |
#108 |
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Only 1 of those was EVER pregnant? Ever? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:28 PM |
#129 |
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You are being silly |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 04:40 PM |
#140 |
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Lies, damned lies, and statistics. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:42 PM |
#144 |
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Why would it have to be massive? Do you think that ritual sex abuse is okay |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:40 PM |
#196 |
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Thank you for that info. I hadn't read that yet. eom |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 07:46 PM |
#201 |
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I wonder how many of them still had hymens |
krispos42 |
Jun-21-08 04:31 PM |
#132 |
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Yes |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 04:41 PM |
#142 |
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I would imagine they did not |
cornermouse |
Jun-21-08 04:58 PM |
#153 |
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Thank you. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:08 PM |
#161 |
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You don't need to school me on child abuse |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 05:10 PM |
#162 |
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"I've reported more than you have". Oh dear. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:14 PM |
#164 |
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I doubt they would add to the trauma to do a pelvic on all the kids |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:07 PM |
#160 |
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More than 1 way to get rid of a hymen. Intercourse is only 1 way. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:47 PM |
#146 |
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Yup, that's true |
krispos42 |
Jun-21-08 04:49 PM |
#147 |
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I dunno? What would the rate be at the high school with the |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 04:54 PM |
#151 |
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*snort* |
krispos42 |
Jun-21-08 04:59 PM |
#154 |
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Fun hymen facts and weblinks. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:00 PM |
#155 |
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Saying this over and over will not make it true. n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:37 PM |
#195 |
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Same types as those who would brand crosses on children's arms. |
faygokid |
Jun-20-08 06:05 PM |
#3 |
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Sadly, this doesn't surprise me |
Beaverhausen |
Jun-20-08 06:16 PM |
#4 |
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Of those 440 kids, |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 06:22 PM |
#5 |
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The ages still haven't been determined. I read recently that some FLDSers |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 06:36 PM |
#6 |
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It's not hard to tell if they are teenagers or adults |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 08:40 PM |
#8 |
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Be careful that you're not so open minded that your brains fall out. |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 08:49 PM |
#11 |
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But the question remains |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 08:57 PM |
#16 |
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No it hasn't been answered. We don't know how widespread the problem |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:28 PM |
#26 |
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ONE pregnancy does not support your allegations |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:32 PM |
#28 |
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There are more than one, but the number won't be clear until |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:42 PM |
#34 |
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Actually, no, there really is only one pregnancy |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 10:19 PM |
#43 |
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Yes it will, if it turns out that a girl who identified herself as a sister to the |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 10:42 PM |
#50 |
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The girl in question is not pregnant and has no children. |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 12:03 PM |
#103 |
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can be hard to tell if is a teenager. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 12:42 AM |
#57 |
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Is it THAT hard to tell a 27 year old from a 15 year old? nt |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 08:21 AM |
#77 |
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Apparently it is |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 09:59 AM |
#80 |
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Wrong comparison. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 11:57 AM |
#102 |
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Is it THAT easy to tell a 17 yr old from a 15 yr old? nt |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 11:56 AM |
#101 |
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17 is still a minor; 27 is not |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 01:50 PM |
#114 |
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Is it THAT easy to tell a 17 yr old from a 15 yr old? Can you answer this? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:31 PM |
#131 |
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Keep trying to rationalize CPS' actions despite evidence to the contrary |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 04:53 PM |
#150 |
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Believe it or not, one of the women CPS said was under 18, |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 05:00 PM |
#156 |
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Someone who needed some stats to scare the public with |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 05:52 PM |
#170 |
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Nope, you can't answer MY question. MY question is... |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:05 PM |
#158 |
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Get it through your head: Your question is irrelevant |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 05:51 PM |
#169 |
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Huh, asking a question is irrelevant. Guess that means you can't answer it. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:58 PM |
#172 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-21-08 08:28 PM |
#205 |
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Insults. That is all you have? No answers. Just insults. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 09:25 PM |
#209 |
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One nt |
WolverineDG |
Jun-20-08 07:23 PM |
#7 |
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Interesting |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 08:42 PM |
#9 |
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17 in Glouscester, Mass |
WolverineDG |
Jun-20-08 08:45 PM |
#10 |
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Those misguided girls chose to get pregnant, or at least, to have sex. |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 08:51 PM |
#14 |
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There have not been one FLDS girl from the TX ranch, |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 04:55 AM |
#72 |
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Because they are too egar to counteract what they believe to be FLDS brainwashing with their own |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 03:58 PM |
#123 |
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Quick! Call the state and claim to be one of those girls! |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:03 PM |
#18 |
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Nah. School apparently has a child care center on site. |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 04:57 AM |
#73 |
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Even if it is just one... |
XOKCowboy |
Jun-20-08 08:50 PM |
#12 |
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If only one girl has her heart cut out |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 08:54 PM |
#15 |
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No one is saying that one pregnancy was okay |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:08 PM |
#21 |
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Yes. Since the parents weren't cooperating by identifying their children, |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:19 PM |
#22 |
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The FLDS very rarely breaks ranks... |
XOKCowboy |
Jun-20-08 09:23 PM |
#24 |
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I disagree |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:38 PM |
#31 |
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If you weren't part of a family involved in child-rape, it would be stupid |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:51 PM |
#38 |
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If I was part of a group practicing child rape |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 10:20 PM |
#44 |
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There HAS been more than one pregnancy. |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 10:36 PM |
#46 |
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One a year? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 11:14 PM |
#52 |
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The other girls that were pregnant have been proven to be adults. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 12:26 AM |
#55 |
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Not all of them. That were still several underage mothers. And some of the |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 01:11 AM |
#61 |
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Oh boo-hoo. |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 04:51 AM |
#71 |
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Hmmm, funny thing about that |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 10:28 AM |
#90 |
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If your a christian or Jew you can commit any crime without fear of your religion being dragged into |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 12:21 AM |
#54 |
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These people say they are Christians, and that their prophet is on a par |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 01:13 AM |
#62 |
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There are simularities. Both were deemed by earthly authority to be criminals. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 04:21 AM |
#66 |
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But is one case enough to take 400 kids away from their families? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:05 PM |
#19 |
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Texas isn't Utah |
XOKCowboy |
Jun-20-08 09:19 PM |
#23 |
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What is known or what is alleged to be happening? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:40 PM |
#32 |
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You're saying that even though the cases haven't come before the |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:49 PM |
#37 |
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Will more girls be pregnant by then?? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 10:15 PM |
#41 |
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More past pregnancies may be acknowledged. We shall see. n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 10:40 PM |
#48 |
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If even ONE was raped, then everyone who condoned it and assisted in it |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 08:50 PM |
#13 |
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But does ONE pregnancy |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 08:59 PM |
#17 |
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Yes, let's think of a school. Take the religious element out of it. |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:24 PM |
#25 |
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Again, if this was true, |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:34 PM |
#29 |
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Why do you think there is only one pregnancy? |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:44 PM |
#35 |
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I think it is fairly obvious |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:55 PM |
#39 |
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Their spokesman announced last week that they had changed their practice |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 10:15 PM |
#40 |
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The police did have the identity of a girl -- she gave a name, |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:48 PM |
#36 |
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And they had the phone number it came from and knew it was bogus |
FreeState |
Jun-20-08 10:36 PM |
#45 |
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There is no evidence that they knew it was "bogus" either before or during |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 10:39 PM |
#47 |
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They had the phone number - they knew |
FreeState |
Jun-20-08 10:45 PM |
#51 |
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How do you know that that phone number was easily traced? The ones that you |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 11:51 PM |
#53 |
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The article I linked stated it was the same number n/t |
FreeState |
Jun-21-08 01:28 AM |
#64 |
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So? Do you think that every telephone number listed in any 911 report is |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 02:55 AM |
#65 |
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Yes - after 911 a lot of money has been spent making the system work just like that |
FreeState |
Jun-21-08 01:56 PM |
#115 |
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This is a work in progress. They're not there yet. n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 03:53 PM |
#121 |
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LOL okay keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better n/t |
FreeState |
Jun-21-08 06:00 PM |
#173 |
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Then why did the sheriff tell the Anti FLDS abuse hotline to record the call. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 12:38 AM |
#56 |
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Do you have a link for that? And how do you know they have enhanced 911 |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 12:44 AM |
#58 |
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You first. You started it with your "bogus" claim. Do you have a link for that? |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 04:46 AM |
#70 |
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They don't have caller ID? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 10:06 AM |
#82 |
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They could have investigated more thoroughly before they sent in the swat team |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 10:05 AM |
#81 |
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They had been investigating for 4 years with the help of an inside informant. They had nothing. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 03:36 PM |
#118 |
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How many of those are females ovulating? Your numbers are suspect. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 12:05 PM |
#105 |
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You are doubting there wee 400 kids seized? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 01:18 PM |
#109 |
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No, try reading it again. Here...How many of those are females ovulating? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:27 PM |
#128 |
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I didn't check ovulation |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 04:34 PM |
#134 |
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Did you check how many were male, or under ovulation age? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:37 PM |
#137 |
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You keep reducing the pool |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 04:38 PM |
#138 |
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If you have 440 boys, none will be pregnant. Pregnancy(or not) only counts if able to get pregnant. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:40 PM |
#141 |
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Only. One. Pregnancy. |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 04:42 PM |
#143 |
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Lies, damned lies, and statistics. Combined with a refusal to answer. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:44 PM |
#145 |
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Where do you get that fact? You keep repeating it. How do you know? n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:30 PM |
#188 |
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At this point I have no problems with believing the dumbasses at CPS lost her in thier screwed up |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 12:44 AM |
#59 |
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They didn't lose her. She was supposed to be living at a certain address |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 01:14 AM |
#63 |
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She was supposed to remain in state custody. If CPS can't find her. They screwed up big time. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 04:31 AM |
#67 |
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You have been pro-cult since the beginning of this. |
cornermouse |
Jun-21-08 07:52 AM |
#76 |
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Expecting a state agency to act responsibly is pro cult? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 10:12 AM |
#85 |
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Apparently, yes in this case |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 10:33 AM |
#92 |
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You are well enough informed that I'm sure you know perfectly well |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:25 PM |
#183 |
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And we learn to not assume too much. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 07:33 PM |
#191 |
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Deliberately lying about the facts is mostly likely pro-cult. |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:28 PM |
#185 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-21-08 03:39 PM |
#119 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-21-08 04:30 PM |
#130 |
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Oh and what is being done to the FLDS isn't broadbrush? |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 04:36 PM |
#135 |
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Perhaps reading DU rules might educate you on what insults are allowed here. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:49 PM |
#148 |
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I pasted the rules to my complaints to the mods who did nothing. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 05:07 PM |
#159 |
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Maybe they don't consider that against the rules. Perhaps you should email them and ask. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:12 PM |
#163 |
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Freedom of religion is a constitutional matter. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 05:57 PM |
#171 |
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Age of consent worldwide graphic |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 06:11 PM |
#175 |
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I think you have that backwards. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 08:01 AM |
#215 |
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2 things. |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 10:55 AM |
#222 |
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Clarification. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 11:47 AM |
#225 |
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An unmarried woman is not an "honest woman"? |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 12:00 PM |
#226 |
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In terms of religious morality no she not. Harlot or even prostitute are the terms. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 12:30 PM |
#230 |
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Origin of word Virgin meant belonged to no man. Hence, independent woman. |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 01:02 PM |
#232 |
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No it doesn't. It's more relevant to purity or hymen. As in Virgo Intacta (Virginity Intact). |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 01:55 PM |
#236 |
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Delete. Not worth talking with someone whose mind is made up. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 12:08 PM |
#106 |
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Yep, my mind is made up. She is claiming to be abused and I believe her. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 03:52 PM |
#120 |
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Oh total crap there.No one is abused until they acknowledge they were? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:25 PM |
#127 |
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This is what you are failing to understand. To break the cycle of abuse. The person must admit |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 04:58 PM |
#152 |
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To break the cycle of abuse, yes they need to admit it. But they ARE abused whether they admit it or |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:03 PM |
#157 |
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It's ineffective to do anything for them until they are willing to call it abuse (admit the problem) |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 05:28 PM |
#165 |
| -
Not apt comparisons. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:39 PM |
#166 |
| -
What about the infant genital mutilation? That's right along these lines. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 06:08 PM |
#174 |
| -
I am very much against circumcision without a proven medical need. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 06:18 PM |
#176 |
| -
I don't have a problem with that until you start forcing your decission on others. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 07:01 PM |
#177 |
| -
And yet you, yourself, are trying to force your |
cornermouse |
Jun-21-08 07:14 PM |
#179 |
| -
No I'm trying to preserve a state of freedom. That's another thing people fail to understand about |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 07:27 PM |
#184 |
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But you can't steal that worshipped head of lettuce as that is illegal. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 07:32 PM |
#190 |
| -
Your "freedom" is infringement on the children's rights |
cornermouse |
Jun-21-08 07:34 PM |
#192 |
| -
Thoughts are free, actions are limited. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 07:36 PM |
#194 |
| -
But there is a moral authority involved in religion. In fact SCOTUS vows and declares that our |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 09:17 AM |
#219 |
| -
We cannot allow children to be used as a loose thread to unravel the rights of adults. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 08:33 AM |
#216 |
| -
You know. You're absolutely right. |
cornermouse |
Jun-22-08 08:43 AM |
#217 |
| -
Congratulations! You just overturned Roe v. Wade. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 09:38 AM |
#221 |
| -
Not what Roe v Wade was about, homunculus, Real life of woman trumps that of potential. |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 11:12 AM |
#224 |
| -
As an alchemist I can assure you that that the theory of homunculi is incomplete. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 12:14 PM |
#227 |
| -
"The fetus is the maturing sperm cell."? No. A maturing fertilized egg. |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 12:20 PM |
#229 |
| -
Right the two become as one. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 01:12 PM |
#233 |
| -
No, wrong. Way wrong. Your physiological knowledge lacks a bunch. |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 03:51 PM |
#237 |
| -
However, freedom of religion does not mean freedom to act in a certain way if it is against the law. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 07:28 PM |
#186 |
| -
This what you are overlooking "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 07:43 PM |
#198 |
| -
So you can make up a "religion" then do whatever you want with impunity? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 07:48 PM |
#203 |
| -
That violates seperation of church and state and the teacher wasn't their parent. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 08:48 AM |
#218 |
| -
Circumcision does not take an inch off the length of a penis, by the way. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 07:25 PM |
#182 |
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Both her lawyer and her guardian ad litem say that she told them of abuse |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:30 PM |
#187 |
| -
You're flat out wrong. |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:24 PM |
#181 |
| -
No. It's because she went to San Angelo to see a judge. |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 04:43 AM |
#69 |
| -
Do you have a link for that? n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:32 PM |
#189 |
| -
Or maybe she was out shopping |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 08:26 AM |
#78 |
| -
And you know this because??? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 10:09 AM |
#84 |
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Because she appeared before a judge and said that she was being abused. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 03:55 PM |
#122 |
| -
No, the girl isn't claiming she is being abused. Her lawyer is |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 04:51 PM |
#149 |
| -
Interesting, I was under the impression this was her claim. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 05:39 PM |
#167 |
| -
Could also be she is 16 and being influenced by others also. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:43 PM |
#168 |
| -
Another possibility. The lawyer doesn't realize that she doesn't work for CPS. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 07:13 PM |
#178 |
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Neither the lawyer nor the guardian ad litem think they work for CPS. |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:46 PM |
#202 |
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And what did the girl say? |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 09:00 PM |
#207 |
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That she was "married" to Raymond Jessops at the age of 14. n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-22-08 12:45 AM |
#210 |
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Have a link for that? |
lizzy |
Jun-22-08 01:40 AM |
#213 |
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It IS her claim -- when a FLDS male elder isn't sitting there, breathing |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:45 PM |
#200 |
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Now, do you have any proof of that? |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 08:55 PM |
#206 |
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The lawyer and her guardian ad litem testified that she told them. |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 09:24 PM |
#208 |
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Told them what? Do you have link for that? |
lizzy |
Jun-22-08 01:39 AM |
#212 |
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She told both her lawyer AND her guardian ad litem that she was being |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:43 PM |
#197 |
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When did she ever tell them anything of the sort? |
lizzy |
Jun-23-08 12:17 AM |
#239 |
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I imagine that you would have to believe that |
LanternWaste |
Jun-22-08 12:18 PM |
#228 |
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I refuse to believe that CPS can do no wrong. Yes Genocide was commited. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 01:31 PM |
#234 |
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rather like... |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 03:54 PM |
#238 |
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k&r, oh damn. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 12:45 AM |
#60 |
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She is not missing. |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 04:42 AM |
#68 |
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The article at your link says the girls lawyer thinks the girl was avoiding service |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:36 PM |
#193 |
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I'm just blown away by the number of people on this thread |
cornermouse |
Jun-21-08 06:02 AM |
#74 |
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I, too, am absolutely appalled |
Frank Cannon |
Jun-21-08 07:48 AM |
#75 |
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Actually sending in a swat team and seizing 400 kids is more of a neo-con stance |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 10:15 AM |
#86 |
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Believing that the government has no rights with which to protect the |
cornermouse |
Jun-21-08 10:26 AM |
#89 |
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And when the govt uses those "rights" irresponsibly? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 10:41 AM |
#94 |
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It's also vintage neo-con |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 10:44 AM |
#96 |
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Based on your argument then, it is clearly wrong |
cornermouse |
Jun-21-08 11:08 AM |
#100 |
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Oh come on |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 01:34 PM |
#110 |
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I agree with you mostly however |
FreeState |
Jun-21-08 02:15 PM |
#116 |
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Fair enough |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 02:19 PM |
#117 |
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Don't you think the law knew what was going on already? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:34 PM |
#133 |
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I have no idea |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 04:39 PM |
#139 |
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A government that resorts to threats, violence, & lies |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 01:38 PM |
#112 |
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Every single FLDS thread, the same handful show up to defend the child-raping creeps. |
dicksteele |
Jun-21-08 10:16 AM |
#88 |
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It's called the Constitution |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 10:29 AM |
#91 |
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Show me where that Constitution says child sex slavery is OK. You just prove my point. |
dicksteele |
Jun-21-08 10:39 AM |
#93 |
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Prove that this was occurring |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 10:42 AM |
#95 |
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Prove? That's what TRIALS are for. Looks like I'm not the one who needs to do some reading. |
dicksteele |
Jun-21-08 11:05 AM |
#99 |
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Yup. I made the mistake of joining in here. Why bother. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 12:09 PM |
#107 |
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Okay I am going to call today |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 01:37 PM |
#111 |
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I already offered to do that. Nobody wants to play this game with THEIR kids. Just other peoples. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 04:21 PM |
#126 |
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And how many trials have there been in this case |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 01:41 PM |
#113 |
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Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 04:36 PM |
#136 |
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For everyone but them. They're innocent even when proven guilty. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 07:14 PM |
#180 |
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Oprah did an entire show on people falsely accused and convicted of being "child raping creeps." |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 04:17 PM |
#125 |
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Well then, we should NEVER investigate cults who openly call child sex slavery "DOCTRINE", right? |
dicksteele |
Jun-22-08 01:31 AM |
#211 |
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I think you are in error. |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 11:02 AM |
#223 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-21-08 04:07 PM |
#124 |
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If you are interested in reading more about FDLS . . . |
kaiden |
Jun-21-08 08:32 AM |
#79 |
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I have read it |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 10:16 AM |
#87 |
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That's good she's missing; |
usaftmo |
Jun-21-08 07:44 PM |
#199 |
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You are glad a child is missing so you don't have to hear about FLDS. WTF? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 08:04 PM |
#204 |
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LDS has a long history of murdering those who are in their way. |
old mark |
Jun-22-08 06:37 AM |
#214 |
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So does the Roman Catholic Church. So what's your point? |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 09:23 AM |
#220 |
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There's more Catholics than LDS or FLDS so that's okay nt |
WolverineDG |
Jun-22-08 12:42 PM |
#231 |
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The establishment of some religions get more respect than others. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 01:36 PM |
#235 |
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