| 18. Quick! Call the state and claim to be one of those girls! |
|
Tell them you were forced to have sex with an older man!! We need a swat team!! PRONTO!!!  |
| -FLDS prophet's daughter, set to testify as an abuse victim, may now be missing. |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 05:25 PM |
#0 |
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Oh, but these people are harmless |
Frank Cannon |
Jun-20-08 05:27 PM |
#1 |
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Yeah, why are we persecuting them? |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 05:28 PM |
#2 |
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Because they dress funny and practice polygamy |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:06 PM |
#20 |
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No, because they are blindly following a leader who orders child rape. n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:29 PM |
#27 |
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Are they aborting the resulting babies? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:36 PM |
#30 |
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Their own "Bishops records" show underage girls "married" to older men. |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:41 PM |
#33 |
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The issue is - was it right to break up all these families? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 10:17 PM |
#42 |
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I think it was right to take them off the ranch to begin the investigation |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 10:42 PM |
#49 |
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The appellate court had ruled that CPS had no right to take these |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 11:01 AM |
#97 |
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"Polygamy" requires free will and choice. The FLDS practices CHILD SEX SLAVERY. Different. nm |
dicksteele |
Jun-21-08 10:07 AM |
#83 |
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Yet only one of these children was pregnant |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 11:04 AM |
#98 |
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Only 1 minor has ever been pregnant? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 12:03 PM |
#104 |
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Only one out of 440 who were taken from their families |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 12:27 PM |
#108 |
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Only 1 of those was EVER pregnant? Ever? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:28 PM |
#129 |
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You are being silly |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 04:40 PM |
#140 |
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Lies, damned lies, and statistics. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:42 PM |
#144 |
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Why would it have to be massive? Do you think that ritual sex abuse is okay |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:40 PM |
#196 |
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Thank you for that info. I hadn't read that yet. eom |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 07:46 PM |
#201 |
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I wonder how many of them still had hymens |
krispos42 |
Jun-21-08 04:31 PM |
#132 |
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Yes |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 04:41 PM |
#142 |
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I would imagine they did not |
cornermouse |
Jun-21-08 04:58 PM |
#153 |
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Thank you. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:08 PM |
#161 |
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You don't need to school me on child abuse |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 05:10 PM |
#162 |
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"I've reported more than you have". Oh dear. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:14 PM |
#164 |
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I doubt they would add to the trauma to do a pelvic on all the kids |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:07 PM |
#160 |
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More than 1 way to get rid of a hymen. Intercourse is only 1 way. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:47 PM |
#146 |
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Yup, that's true |
krispos42 |
Jun-21-08 04:49 PM |
#147 |
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I dunno? What would the rate be at the high school with the |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 04:54 PM |
#151 |
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*snort* |
krispos42 |
Jun-21-08 04:59 PM |
#154 |
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Fun hymen facts and weblinks. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:00 PM |
#155 |
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Saying this over and over will not make it true. n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:37 PM |
#195 |
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Same types as those who would brand crosses on children's arms. |
faygokid |
Jun-20-08 06:05 PM |
#3 |
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Sadly, this doesn't surprise me |
Beaverhausen |
Jun-20-08 06:16 PM |
#4 |
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Of those 440 kids, |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 06:22 PM |
#5 |
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The ages still haven't been determined. I read recently that some FLDSers |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 06:36 PM |
#6 |
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It's not hard to tell if they are teenagers or adults |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 08:40 PM |
#8 |
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Be careful that you're not so open minded that your brains fall out. |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 08:49 PM |
#11 |
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But the question remains |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 08:57 PM |
#16 |
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No it hasn't been answered. We don't know how widespread the problem |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:28 PM |
#26 |
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ONE pregnancy does not support your allegations |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:32 PM |
#28 |
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There are more than one, but the number won't be clear until |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:42 PM |
#34 |
| -
Actually, no, there really is only one pregnancy |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 10:19 PM |
#43 |
| -
Yes it will, if it turns out that a girl who identified herself as a sister to the |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 10:42 PM |
#50 |
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The girl in question is not pregnant and has no children. |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 12:03 PM |
#103 |
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can be hard to tell if is a teenager. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 12:42 AM |
#57 |
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Is it THAT hard to tell a 27 year old from a 15 year old? nt |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 08:21 AM |
#77 |
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Apparently it is |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 09:59 AM |
#80 |
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Wrong comparison. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 11:57 AM |
#102 |
| -
Is it THAT easy to tell a 17 yr old from a 15 yr old? nt |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 11:56 AM |
#101 |
| -
17 is still a minor; 27 is not |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 01:50 PM |
#114 |
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Is it THAT easy to tell a 17 yr old from a 15 yr old? Can you answer this? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:31 PM |
#131 |
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Keep trying to rationalize CPS' actions despite evidence to the contrary |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 04:53 PM |
#150 |
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Believe it or not, one of the women CPS said was under 18, |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 05:00 PM |
#156 |
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Someone who needed some stats to scare the public with |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 05:52 PM |
#170 |
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Nope, you can't answer MY question. MY question is... |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:05 PM |
#158 |
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Get it through your head: Your question is irrelevant |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 05:51 PM |
#169 |
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Huh, asking a question is irrelevant. Guess that means you can't answer it. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:58 PM |
#172 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-21-08 08:28 PM |
#205 |
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Insults. That is all you have? No answers. Just insults. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 09:25 PM |
#209 |
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One nt |
WolverineDG |
Jun-20-08 07:23 PM |
#7 |
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Interesting |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 08:42 PM |
#9 |
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17 in Glouscester, Mass |
WolverineDG |
Jun-20-08 08:45 PM |
#10 |
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Those misguided girls chose to get pregnant, or at least, to have sex. |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 08:51 PM |
#14 |
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There have not been one FLDS girl from the TX ranch, |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 04:55 AM |
#72 |
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Because they are too egar to counteract what they believe to be FLDS brainwashing with their own |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 03:58 PM |
#123 |
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Quick! Call the state and claim to be one of those girls! |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:03 PM |
#18 |
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Nah. School apparently has a child care center on site. |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 04:57 AM |
#73 |
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Even if it is just one... |
XOKCowboy |
Jun-20-08 08:50 PM |
#12 |
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If only one girl has her heart cut out |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 08:54 PM |
#15 |
| -
No one is saying that one pregnancy was okay |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:08 PM |
#21 |
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Yes. Since the parents weren't cooperating by identifying their children, |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:19 PM |
#22 |
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The FLDS very rarely breaks ranks... |
XOKCowboy |
Jun-20-08 09:23 PM |
#24 |
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I disagree |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:38 PM |
#31 |
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If you weren't part of a family involved in child-rape, it would be stupid |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:51 PM |
#38 |
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If I was part of a group practicing child rape |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 10:20 PM |
#44 |
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There HAS been more than one pregnancy. |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 10:36 PM |
#46 |
| -
One a year? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 11:14 PM |
#52 |
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The other girls that were pregnant have been proven to be adults. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 12:26 AM |
#55 |
| -
Not all of them. That were still several underage mothers. And some of the |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 01:11 AM |
#61 |
| -
Oh boo-hoo. |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 04:51 AM |
#71 |
| -
Hmmm, funny thing about that |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 10:28 AM |
#90 |
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If your a christian or Jew you can commit any crime without fear of your religion being dragged into |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 12:21 AM |
#54 |
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These people say they are Christians, and that their prophet is on a par |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 01:13 AM |
#62 |
| -
There are simularities. Both were deemed by earthly authority to be criminals. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 04:21 AM |
#66 |
| -
But is one case enough to take 400 kids away from their families? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:05 PM |
#19 |
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Texas isn't Utah |
XOKCowboy |
Jun-20-08 09:19 PM |
#23 |
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What is known or what is alleged to be happening? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:40 PM |
#32 |
| -
You're saying that even though the cases haven't come before the |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:49 PM |
#37 |
| -
Will more girls be pregnant by then?? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 10:15 PM |
#41 |
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More past pregnancies may be acknowledged. We shall see. n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 10:40 PM |
#48 |
| -
If even ONE was raped, then everyone who condoned it and assisted in it |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 08:50 PM |
#13 |
| -
But does ONE pregnancy |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 08:59 PM |
#17 |
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Yes, let's think of a school. Take the religious element out of it. |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:24 PM |
#25 |
| -
Again, if this was true, |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:34 PM |
#29 |
| -
Why do you think there is only one pregnancy? |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:44 PM |
#35 |
| -
I think it is fairly obvious |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-08 09:55 PM |
#39 |
| -
Their spokesman announced last week that they had changed their practice |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 10:15 PM |
#40 |
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The police did have the identity of a girl -- she gave a name, |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 09:48 PM |
#36 |
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And they had the phone number it came from and knew it was bogus |
FreeState |
Jun-20-08 10:36 PM |
#45 |
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There is no evidence that they knew it was "bogus" either before or during |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 10:39 PM |
#47 |
| -
They had the phone number - they knew |
FreeState |
Jun-20-08 10:45 PM |
#51 |
| -
How do you know that that phone number was easily traced? The ones that you |
pnwmom |
Jun-20-08 11:51 PM |
#53 |
| -
The article I linked stated it was the same number n/t |
FreeState |
Jun-21-08 01:28 AM |
#64 |
| -
So? Do you think that every telephone number listed in any 911 report is |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 02:55 AM |
#65 |
| -
Yes - after 911 a lot of money has been spent making the system work just like that |
FreeState |
Jun-21-08 01:56 PM |
#115 |
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This is a work in progress. They're not there yet. n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 03:53 PM |
#121 |
| -
LOL okay keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better n/t |
FreeState |
Jun-21-08 06:00 PM |
#173 |
| -
Then why did the sheriff tell the Anti FLDS abuse hotline to record the call. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 12:38 AM |
#56 |
| -
Do you have a link for that? And how do you know they have enhanced 911 |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 12:44 AM |
#58 |
| -
You first. You started it with your "bogus" claim. Do you have a link for that? |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 04:46 AM |
#70 |
| -
They don't have caller ID? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 10:06 AM |
#82 |
| -
They could have investigated more thoroughly before they sent in the swat team |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 10:05 AM |
#81 |
| -
They had been investigating for 4 years with the help of an inside informant. They had nothing. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 03:36 PM |
#118 |
| -
How many of those are females ovulating? Your numbers are suspect. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 12:05 PM |
#105 |
| -
You are doubting there wee 400 kids seized? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 01:18 PM |
#109 |
| -
No, try reading it again. Here...How many of those are females ovulating? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:27 PM |
#128 |
| -
I didn't check ovulation |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 04:34 PM |
#134 |
| -
Did you check how many were male, or under ovulation age? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:37 PM |
#137 |
| -
You keep reducing the pool |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 04:38 PM |
#138 |
| -
If you have 440 boys, none will be pregnant. Pregnancy(or not) only counts if able to get pregnant. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:40 PM |
#141 |
| -
Only. One. Pregnancy. |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 04:42 PM |
#143 |
| -
Lies, damned lies, and statistics. Combined with a refusal to answer. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:44 PM |
#145 |
| -
Where do you get that fact? You keep repeating it. How do you know? n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:30 PM |
#188 |
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At this point I have no problems with believing the dumbasses at CPS lost her in thier screwed up |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 12:44 AM |
#59 |
| -
They didn't lose her. She was supposed to be living at a certain address |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 01:14 AM |
#63 |
| -
She was supposed to remain in state custody. If CPS can't find her. They screwed up big time. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 04:31 AM |
#67 |
| -
You have been pro-cult since the beginning of this. |
cornermouse |
Jun-21-08 07:52 AM |
#76 |
| -
Expecting a state agency to act responsibly is pro cult? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 10:12 AM |
#85 |
| -
Apparently, yes in this case |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 10:33 AM |
#92 |
| -
You are well enough informed that I'm sure you know perfectly well |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:25 PM |
#183 |
| -
And we learn to not assume too much. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 07:33 PM |
#191 |
| -
Deliberately lying about the facts is mostly likely pro-cult. |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:28 PM |
#185 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-21-08 03:39 PM |
#119 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-21-08 04:30 PM |
#130 |
| -
Oh and what is being done to the FLDS isn't broadbrush? |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 04:36 PM |
#135 |
| -
Perhaps reading DU rules might educate you on what insults are allowed here. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:49 PM |
#148 |
| -
I pasted the rules to my complaints to the mods who did nothing. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 05:07 PM |
#159 |
| -
Maybe they don't consider that against the rules. Perhaps you should email them and ask. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:12 PM |
#163 |
| -
Freedom of religion is a constitutional matter. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 05:57 PM |
#171 |
| -
Age of consent worldwide graphic |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 06:11 PM |
#175 |
| -
I think you have that backwards. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 08:01 AM |
#215 |
| -
2 things. |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 10:55 AM |
#222 |
| -
Clarification. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 11:47 AM |
#225 |
| -
An unmarried woman is not an "honest woman"? |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 12:00 PM |
#226 |
| -
In terms of religious morality no she not. Harlot or even prostitute are the terms. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 12:30 PM |
#230 |
| -
Origin of word Virgin meant belonged to no man. Hence, independent woman. |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 01:02 PM |
#232 |
| -
No it doesn't. It's more relevant to purity or hymen. As in Virgo Intacta (Virginity Intact). |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 01:55 PM |
#236 |
| -
Delete. Not worth talking with someone whose mind is made up. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 12:08 PM |
#106 |
| -
Yep, my mind is made up. She is claiming to be abused and I believe her. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 03:52 PM |
#120 |
| -
Oh total crap there.No one is abused until they acknowledge they were? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:25 PM |
#127 |
| -
This is what you are failing to understand. To break the cycle of abuse. The person must admit |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 04:58 PM |
#152 |
| -
To break the cycle of abuse, yes they need to admit it. But they ARE abused whether they admit it or |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:03 PM |
#157 |
| -
It's ineffective to do anything for them until they are willing to call it abuse (admit the problem) |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 05:28 PM |
#165 |
| -
Not apt comparisons. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:39 PM |
#166 |
| -
What about the infant genital mutilation? That's right along these lines. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 06:08 PM |
#174 |
| -
I am very much against circumcision without a proven medical need. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 06:18 PM |
#176 |
| -
I don't have a problem with that until you start forcing your decission on others. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 07:01 PM |
#177 |
| -
And yet you, yourself, are trying to force your |
cornermouse |
Jun-21-08 07:14 PM |
#179 |
| -
No I'm trying to preserve a state of freedom. That's another thing people fail to understand about |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 07:27 PM |
#184 |
| -
But you can't steal that worshipped head of lettuce as that is illegal. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 07:32 PM |
#190 |
| -
Your "freedom" is infringement on the children's rights |
cornermouse |
Jun-21-08 07:34 PM |
#192 |
| -
Thoughts are free, actions are limited. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 07:36 PM |
#194 |
| -
But there is a moral authority involved in religion. In fact SCOTUS vows and declares that our |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 09:17 AM |
#219 |
| -
We cannot allow children to be used as a loose thread to unravel the rights of adults. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 08:33 AM |
#216 |
| -
You know. You're absolutely right. |
cornermouse |
Jun-22-08 08:43 AM |
#217 |
| -
Congratulations! You just overturned Roe v. Wade. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 09:38 AM |
#221 |
| -
Not what Roe v Wade was about, homunculus, Real life of woman trumps that of potential. |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 11:12 AM |
#224 |
| -
As an alchemist I can assure you that that the theory of homunculi is incomplete. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 12:14 PM |
#227 |
| -
"The fetus is the maturing sperm cell."? No. A maturing fertilized egg. |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 12:20 PM |
#229 |
| -
Right the two become as one. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 01:12 PM |
#233 |
| -
No, wrong. Way wrong. Your physiological knowledge lacks a bunch. |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 03:51 PM |
#237 |
| -
However, freedom of religion does not mean freedom to act in a certain way if it is against the law. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 07:28 PM |
#186 |
| -
This what you are overlooking "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 07:43 PM |
#198 |
| -
So you can make up a "religion" then do whatever you want with impunity? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 07:48 PM |
#203 |
| -
That violates seperation of church and state and the teacher wasn't their parent. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 08:48 AM |
#218 |
| -
Circumcision does not take an inch off the length of a penis, by the way. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 07:25 PM |
#182 |
| -
Both her lawyer and her guardian ad litem say that she told them of abuse |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:30 PM |
#187 |
| -
You're flat out wrong. |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:24 PM |
#181 |
| -
No. It's because she went to San Angelo to see a judge. |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 04:43 AM |
#69 |
| -
Do you have a link for that? n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:32 PM |
#189 |
| -
Or maybe she was out shopping |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 08:26 AM |
#78 |
| -
And you know this because??? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 10:09 AM |
#84 |
| -
Because she appeared before a judge and said that she was being abused. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 03:55 PM |
#122 |
| -
No, the girl isn't claiming she is being abused. Her lawyer is |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 04:51 PM |
#149 |
| -
Interesting, I was under the impression this was her claim. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 05:39 PM |
#167 |
| -
Could also be she is 16 and being influenced by others also. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 05:43 PM |
#168 |
| -
Another possibility. The lawyer doesn't realize that she doesn't work for CPS. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 07:13 PM |
#178 |
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Neither the lawyer nor the guardian ad litem think they work for CPS. |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:46 PM |
#202 |
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And what did the girl say? |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 09:00 PM |
#207 |
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That she was "married" to Raymond Jessops at the age of 14. n/t |
pnwmom |
Jun-22-08 12:45 AM |
#210 |
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Have a link for that? |
lizzy |
Jun-22-08 01:40 AM |
#213 |
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It IS her claim -- when a FLDS male elder isn't sitting there, breathing |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:45 PM |
#200 |
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Now, do you have any proof of that? |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 08:55 PM |
#206 |
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The lawyer and her guardian ad litem testified that she told them. |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 09:24 PM |
#208 |
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Told them what? Do you have link for that? |
lizzy |
Jun-22-08 01:39 AM |
#212 |
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She told both her lawyer AND her guardian ad litem that she was being |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:43 PM |
#197 |
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When did she ever tell them anything of the sort? |
lizzy |
Jun-23-08 12:17 AM |
#239 |
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I imagine that you would have to believe that |
LanternWaste |
Jun-22-08 12:18 PM |
#228 |
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I refuse to believe that CPS can do no wrong. Yes Genocide was commited. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 01:31 PM |
#234 |
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rather like... |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 03:54 PM |
#238 |
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k&r, oh damn. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 12:45 AM |
#60 |
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She is not missing. |
lizzy |
Jun-21-08 04:42 AM |
#68 |
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The article at your link says the girls lawyer thinks the girl was avoiding service |
pnwmom |
Jun-21-08 07:36 PM |
#193 |
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I'm just blown away by the number of people on this thread |
cornermouse |
Jun-21-08 06:02 AM |
#74 |
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I, too, am absolutely appalled |
Frank Cannon |
Jun-21-08 07:48 AM |
#75 |
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Actually sending in a swat team and seizing 400 kids is more of a neo-con stance |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 10:15 AM |
#86 |
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Believing that the government has no rights with which to protect the |
cornermouse |
Jun-21-08 10:26 AM |
#89 |
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And when the govt uses those "rights" irresponsibly? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 10:41 AM |
#94 |
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It's also vintage neo-con |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 10:44 AM |
#96 |
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Based on your argument then, it is clearly wrong |
cornermouse |
Jun-21-08 11:08 AM |
#100 |
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Oh come on |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 01:34 PM |
#110 |
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I agree with you mostly however |
FreeState |
Jun-21-08 02:15 PM |
#116 |
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Fair enough |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 02:19 PM |
#117 |
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Don't you think the law knew what was going on already? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 04:34 PM |
#133 |
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I have no idea |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 04:39 PM |
#139 |
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A government that resorts to threats, violence, & lies |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 01:38 PM |
#112 |
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Every single FLDS thread, the same handful show up to defend the child-raping creeps. |
dicksteele |
Jun-21-08 10:16 AM |
#88 |
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It's called the Constitution |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 10:29 AM |
#91 |
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Show me where that Constitution says child sex slavery is OK. You just prove my point. |
dicksteele |
Jun-21-08 10:39 AM |
#93 |
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Prove that this was occurring |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 10:42 AM |
#95 |
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Prove? That's what TRIALS are for. Looks like I'm not the one who needs to do some reading. |
dicksteele |
Jun-21-08 11:05 AM |
#99 |
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Yup. I made the mistake of joining in here. Why bother. |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 12:09 PM |
#107 |
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Okay I am going to call today |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 01:37 PM |
#111 |
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I already offered to do that. Nobody wants to play this game with THEIR kids. Just other peoples. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 04:21 PM |
#126 |
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And how many trials have there been in this case |
WolverineDG |
Jun-21-08 01:41 PM |
#113 |
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Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 04:36 PM |
#136 |
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For everyone but them. They're innocent even when proven guilty. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 07:14 PM |
#180 |
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Oprah did an entire show on people falsely accused and convicted of being "child raping creeps." |
Wizard777 |
Jun-21-08 04:17 PM |
#125 |
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Well then, we should NEVER investigate cults who openly call child sex slavery "DOCTRINE", right? |
dicksteele |
Jun-22-08 01:31 AM |
#211 |
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I think you are in error. |
uppityperson |
Jun-22-08 11:02 AM |
#223 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-21-08 04:07 PM |
#124 |
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If you are interested in reading more about FDLS . . . |
kaiden |
Jun-21-08 08:32 AM |
#79 |
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I have read it |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-08 10:16 AM |
#87 |
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That's good she's missing; |
usaftmo |
Jun-21-08 07:44 PM |
#199 |
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You are glad a child is missing so you don't have to hear about FLDS. WTF? |
uppityperson |
Jun-21-08 08:04 PM |
#204 |
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LDS has a long history of murdering those who are in their way. |
old mark |
Jun-22-08 06:37 AM |
#214 |
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So does the Roman Catholic Church. So what's your point? |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 09:23 AM |
#220 |
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There's more Catholics than LDS or FLDS so that's okay nt |
WolverineDG |
Jun-22-08 12:42 PM |
#231 |
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The establishment of some religions get more respect than others. |
Wizard777 |
Jun-22-08 01:36 PM |
#235 |
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