iamjoy
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Fri Jun-20-08 02:11 PM
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it is very sad that windmills are killing birds, but it may be the least of the evils.
Solar power is still too expensive. Nuclear has the implications of waste management. And how many birds do you think get killed when their mountain home is destroyed in the hunt for coal? What habitats are destroyed as we drill for oil and natural gas? Corn ethanol is a joke, a scam agribusiness pulled on environmentalists - chopping down trees to plan corn is not the way to reduce our carbon footprint. And we can't ignore the perceived affect it is having on food prices world wide.
I do not think we are going to go back to not having power for our houses and automobiles. Such a thing would be either the cause of (or result of) a complete societal collapse and would be followed by (if not preceded by) a population decrease of apocalyptic proportions.
Wind may be our best option. We're just going to have to be smart about how we handle it.
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| -Can someone please explain to me exactly what is so ugly about |
hedgehog |
Jun-20-08 01:55 PM |
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I wish I'd see more wind turbines. They look good to me. |
Eric J in MN |
Jun-20-08 01:56 PM |
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The wind farms out in the California desert are beautiful |
LSparkle |
Jun-20-08 01:57 PM |
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Agree with you, 100% . n/t |
ChazII |
Jun-20-08 01:59 PM |
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I thik it comes from the same attitude that bans the use of clothes lines |
hedgehog |
Jun-20-08 01:59 PM |
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Can't wait until people have to start digging up their lawns and planting veggies! |
LSparkle |
Jun-20-08 02:03 PM |
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I've already done that |
slackmaster |
Jun-20-08 02:15 PM |
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If I had a lawn (front or back), it'd be planted with tomatoes and basil |
LSparkle |
Jun-20-08 02:21 PM |
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I like them too.. BUT they DO make a very annoying noise |
SoCalDem |
Jun-20-08 03:41 PM |
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it isn't the looks that give me hesitation- it's the birds that |
Bluerthanblue |
Jun-20-08 02:00 PM |
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That's Unfortunate |
iamjoy |
Jun-20-08 02:11 PM |
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Yes, they are. Actually, |
emmadoggy |
Jun-20-08 04:44 PM |
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It's NIMBY run amok. n/t |
Captain Angry |
Jun-20-08 02:00 PM |
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I think the pollution obscuring the once lovely vistas is ugly. |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Jun-20-08 02:00 PM |
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Good complaint |
PATRICK |
Jun-20-08 02:04 PM |
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Wind turbines all over northwest Iowa -- they are like giant flowers in the landscape. Lovely. |
Idealist Hippie |
Jun-20-08 02:04 PM |
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ironically though |
hfojvt |
Jun-20-08 02:20 PM |
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I agree. |
emmadoggy |
Jun-20-08 09:00 PM |
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I like them a lot....They're quite pleasing to see when zipping across.... |
marmar |
Jun-20-08 02:05 PM |
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I live on the coast |
sandnsea |
Jun-20-08 02:06 PM |
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Not in my backyard |
DangerDave921 |
Jun-20-08 02:33 PM |
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I guess you can't read |
sandnsea |
Jun-20-08 02:43 PM |
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Eat crabs? You bet! |
DangerDave921 |
Jun-21-08 08:02 AM |
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If you don't want to see civilization, can I assume that you've given up all the benefit of |
hedgehog |
Jun-20-08 03:12 PM |
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It was just fine when backpackers closed the forests |
sandnsea |
Jun-20-08 03:15 PM |
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What would you like to close? |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-20-08 03:16 PM |
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Since everyone wants to be a shit |
sandnsea |
Jun-20-08 03:18 PM |
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Here's one adjustment for you: Stop thinking of it as "MY" coast line. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-20-08 03:22 PM |
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lol. It's a protected coastline for the people of my state |
sandnsea |
Jun-20-08 03:32 PM |
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Insisting that land already set off as a nature preserve be off-limits to |
hedgehog |
Jun-20-08 03:18 PM |
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Who said whole sale opposition? Nobody. Nowhere. |
sandnsea |
Jun-20-08 03:30 PM |
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Sorry to jump the gun, but the phrase "last place to go and not see |
hedgehog |
Jun-20-08 04:47 PM |
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It does not look good when you are yachting |
AngryAmish |
Jun-20-08 02:06 PM |
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I think that watching clean energy being created is beautiful |
TexasBushwhacker |
Jun-20-08 02:09 PM |
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No problem with wind turbines. |
dems_rightnow |
Jun-20-08 02:13 PM |
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Man-made is not necessarily ugly... |
ColbertWatcher |
Jun-20-08 02:13 PM |
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They're a little rough on birds |
slackmaster |
Jun-20-08 02:14 PM |
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The first generation wind turbines were smaller, high speed models and were bad on the birds. |
hedgehog |
Jun-20-08 03:06 PM |
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I saw huge wind farms in England |
TrogL |
Jun-20-08 02:15 PM |
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When Railroads Were Being Built |
ribofunk |
Jun-20-08 02:15 PM |
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I think they are kind of pretty |
rox63 |
Jun-20-08 02:20 PM |
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Maybe you should be asking people like Ted Kennedy, RFK Jr. and Walter Cronkite |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-20-08 02:31 PM |
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T o be fair to the folks at Hyannis Port, there is just as much opposition from people leaving in |
hedgehog |
Jun-20-08 03:05 PM |
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Yes but wouldn't you say that the folks at Hyannis Port have had their share of "fair"? n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-20-08 03:08 PM |
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The folks at Nantucket are the poster kids for the "preserve the vista" |
hedgehog |
Jun-20-08 03:16 PM |
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Closing a coal fired plant doesn't necessarily sound like a bad thing. n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jun-20-08 03:18 PM |
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I love them! They remind me of Don Quixote and Rosinante and |
lonestarnot |
Jun-20-08 03:18 PM |
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Sancho Panza -- "panza" translates to "belly," says Wiki. |
Idealist Hippie |
Jun-20-08 03:32 PM |
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Sancho del pan! Woooppeee! |
lonestarnot |
Jun-20-08 03:42 PM |
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Mountain tops are perfect for turbines and much better than clearing them |
Cleita |
Jun-20-08 03:25 PM |
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When I drive through West Texas |
Horse with no Name |
Jun-20-08 03:33 PM |
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From another thread: |
hedgehog |
Jun-20-08 03:59 PM |
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