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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 04:57 PM
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47. The democrats are indeed horrible at
explaining themselves. Every one of them needs to buy, read and memorize Thom Hartmanns book, "Cracking the Code." /
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  -I'm sorry but Obama's offshore drilling position is a political loser Alhena  Jun-18-08 04:39 PM   #0 
  - so you're buying the oil company spin that trashing coastal protection  villager   Jun-18-08 04:41 PM   #1 
  - What coastal protection? I don't recall oil ever washing onshore in La and Tx  Alhena   Jun-18-08 04:43 PM   #4 
     - Let some people up the road in Santa Barbara tell you about years' worth of oil-ravaged beaches...,  villager   Jun-18-08 04:44 PM   # 
     - Alhena, oil is still washing up on the  OwnedByFerrets   Jun-18-08 04:45 PM   #10 
     - Ok, that's the first good reason I've heard. I wasn't aware of any accidents  Alhena   Jun-18-08 04:52 PM   #37 
     - What!? The oil company talking points don't include the accidents!!? ;-)  villager   Jun-18-08 04:58 PM   #48 
     - You are promoting offshore oil drilling and were unaware of the  kestrel91316   Jun-18-08 05:18 PM   #69 
     - It did happen in Texas.  alarimer   Jun-18-08 05:58 PM   #76 
     - The wetlands are gone because of the oil  sandnsea   Jun-18-08 04:46 PM   #13 
     - FACTS:  babylonsister   Jun-18-08 04:47 PM   #17 
     - Thank you for bringing facts to the table BS....  OwnedByFerrets   Jun-18-08 04:51 PM   #29 
     - Thanks for the info- Obama needs to emphasize that point  Alhena   Jun-18-08 04:53 PM   #40 
     - Try digging on the beach at Santa Barbara, CA...  Hell Hath No Fury   Jun-18-08 04:50 PM   #25 
     - How good is the fishing off shore in those two areas? That is one of  jwirr   Jun-18-08 04:50 PM   #27 
     - There've been, what, seven major accidents in the last five years?  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-18-08 04:51 PM   #31 
     - there was not even oil spillage after Hurricane Katrina demolished several oil platforms.  elehhhhna   Jun-18-08 05:07 PM   #62 
  - Jesus Fucking Christ, More Offshore Drilling WON'T REDUCE GAS PRICES BY EVEN ONE CENT  Beetwasher   Jun-18-08 04:42 PM   #2 
  - You're right but the GOP has told the "BIG LIE" fast and hard and dems sat there and "nuanced" their  uponit7771   Jun-18-08 04:44 PM   #8 
  - Falling on deaf ears out there  Patmccccc   Jun-18-08 04:47 PM   #14 
  - If that's the case then Obama should have said that ...  Alhena   Jun-18-08 04:47 PM   #18 
     - "Those aren't good reasons for not doing it." YES THEY ARE  Beetwasher   Jun-18-08 04:49 PM   #23 
     - It's pointless because we won't get results for 5 years?  Alhena   Jun-18-08 04:51 PM   #32 
        - BULLSHIT!!!  Beetwasher   Jun-18-08 04:52 PM   #38 
        - And what will we do after we have used up THAT oil and yet  kestrel91316   Jun-18-08 05:21 PM   #71 
     - RIGHT ON! I've explained this to many GOPers and they get it  uponit7771   Jun-18-08 04:52 PM   #36 
  - Selling more oil leases to the Oil Companies  OwnedByFerrets   Jun-18-08 04:43 PM   #3 
  - YEAP, I explained that to my GOPer buddy and he understood COMPLETELY. Even GOPers get Big Oil is...  uponit7771   Jun-18-08 04:46 PM   #11 
  - "More Offshore Drilling WON'T REDUCE GAS PRICES BY EVEN ONE CENT  Disturbed   Jun-18-08 04:49 PM   #22 
  - Everyone here who has read The Shock Doctrine should recognize  jwirr   Jun-18-08 05:01 PM   #54 
     - yep, we are being "Enronized"  newspeak   Jun-18-08 10:14 PM   #82 
  - It's a band-aid when we need surgery  sandnsea   Jun-18-08 04:44 PM   #5 
  - Oil is the problem; not the solution.  jmauller   Jun-18-08 04:44 PM   #6 
  - The offshore drilling thing is as much a scam as the gas tax holiday...  polichick   Jun-18-08 04:44 PM   #7 
  - Yep - This Will Be A Tough  otohara   Jun-18-08 04:44 PM   #9 
  - Wouldn't be tough IF the DNC would stop their stupid "nuance" responses and bumper sticker issues...  uponit7771   Jun-18-08 04:47 PM   #19 
  - what's wrong with the approved leases?  DrDan   Jun-18-08 04:46 PM   #12 
  - My hyper-Republican neighbor told me "the oil drilling thing is just oil company BS"  melody   Jun-18-08 04:47 PM   #15 
  - I just heard today someone from the DNC bumper stickering a reply to ANWAR but the GOP has told the  uponit7771   Jun-18-08 04:50 PM   #28 
     - The democrats are indeed horrible at  OwnedByFerrets   Jun-18-08 04:57 PM   #47 
  - So, you're very concerned...  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-18-08 04:47 PM   #16 
  - No, my main concern is that the reasons he himself gave were bad ones  Alhena   Jun-18-08 04:49 PM   #24 
     - So then you're one of those people...  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-18-08 04:50 PM   #26 
     - Are You Fucking Kidding??? Those Are GREAT Reasons NOT TO DO IT!  Beetwasher   Jun-18-08 04:51 PM   #33 
     - They're not good POLITICAL reason not to do it but it's an excellent reason NOT to sell Big Oil  uponit7771   Jun-18-08 04:55 PM   #42 
     - And where they are drilling and finding oil, they  shraby   Jun-18-08 05:27 PM   #73 
     - Ok, so what do *you* think would be a good reason?  SemiCharmedQuark   Jun-18-08 05:01 PM   #55 
  - What about Florida?  gatorboy   Jun-18-08 04:48 PM   #20 
  - We need a Manhattan Project  OwnedByFerrets   Jun-18-08 04:49 PM   #21 
  - Just the ANNOUNCEMENT of a practical project would be a 30% dump in oil price IMHO but the...  uponit7771   Jun-18-08 04:51 PM   #34 
  - I hate Raygun for it too....  OwnedByFerrets   Jun-18-08 04:55 PM   #41 
     - Most GOPers are mis-informed about one of the fiscally worst and most racist president in a...  uponit7771   Jun-18-08 04:56 PM   #44 
        - Hell, I wish it was just republicants that were  OwnedByFerrets   Jun-18-08 04:59 PM   #49 
        - Hopefully "not this time" can inlcude the internets, Netroots usually are more informed and this yr  uponit7771   Jun-18-08 05:01 PM   #52 
        - He is a Racist he ranks up there with Justice Taney  saigon68   Jun-18-08 05:05 PM   #59 
  - Or the JFK moon challenge...  Hell Hath No Fury   Jun-18-08 04:56 PM   #45 
     - Yes, that one would sell better to democrats....  OwnedByFerrets   Jun-18-08 05:01 PM   #53 
  - if you think there is a supply crisis, show me the long gas lines please  LSK   Jun-18-08 04:51 PM   #30 
  - If you think there's a leak in the boat, show me your wet hat  Terry in Austin   Jun-18-08 05:11 PM   #66 
     - EIA numbers show a SLIGHT demand increase from 2004 - 2007  LSK   Jun-18-08 05:24 PM   #72 
        - Slight?  Terry in Austin   Jun-18-08 10:20 PM   #83 
  - " . . . if those states want to allow it . . . " Hey, if we did, we would.  Lex   Jun-18-08 04:52 PM   #35 
  - Norway does not let the Oil Companies take 100% of the profits  gulfbreeze   Jun-18-08 04:53 PM   #39 
  - "Offshore drilling", "position"? Sounds like a republican congressional trip to Thailand  ResetButton   Jun-18-08 04:55 PM   #43 
  - Or a drug addled gas bag....  OwnedByFerrets   Jun-18-08 05:03 PM   #56 
  - Read the Congressional Report that just came out  Phred42   Jun-18-08 04:56 PM   #46 
  - Yeap, they're buying up leases and sitting on them. My GOPer buddy heard this and said "now wonder"  uponit7771   Jun-18-08 04:59 PM   #51 
     - They are - DeFazio said it yesterday - Corporate Media is just not COvering it  Phred42   Jun-19-08 09:30 AM   #84 
  - Ah, anything to avoid driving less, I see  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-18-08 04:59 PM   #50 
  - Bikes? Are you kidding,.. around where I live? Also, MOST major cities in the US do NOT have mass...  uponit7771   Jun-18-08 05:04 PM   #57 
     - What's unreasonable about using a bike for a trip of less than five miles?  taterguy   Jun-18-08 05:13 PM   #67 
     - But most Americans were silly enough to move to those places  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-18-08 05:14 PM   #68 
     - THEN WHY DON"T YOU MOVE  27inCali   Jun-18-08 05:31 PM   #75 
  - well it wont relieve  Epiphany4z   Jun-18-08 05:05 PM   #58 
  - Yeap, more oil for Big Oil to sell on the market and OPEC will respond by decrease production  uponit7771   Jun-18-08 05:07 PM   #61 
  - If you're hurting because of gas prices, this drilling WILL NOT help you  HughMoran   Jun-18-08 05:07 PM   #60 
  - I don't like the way they've let GOPers frame the issue, they could've SIMPLY demonized Big Oil long  uponit7771   Jun-18-08 05:10 PM   #65 
     - It's true that they may not have chosen the best of the many arguments against drilling  HughMoran   Jun-18-08 05:27 PM   #74 
  - gas prices aren't about oil - it is about oil men and profits - they did this in the 70's - need  28erl   Jun-18-08 05:09 PM   #63 
  - Alhena, please read this: Fakery and Fibbery on Oil Exploration  babylonsister   Jun-18-08 05:09 PM   #64 
  - We could starting building the rigs today  27inCali   Jun-18-08 05:19 PM   #70 
  - Why is it so effing hard..  stillcool47   Jun-18-08 06:02 PM   #77 
  - Good post, Althena, but nobody seems to want to listen  wain   Jun-18-08 06:19 PM   #78 
  - Well, NO ONE can wave a magic wand and make the high gas prices go away  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-18-08 06:23 PM   #79 
  - OK, Jeenyus, Explain How This Idiocy Will Help  Beetwasher   Jun-18-08 09:17 PM   #80 
  - your thoughts are that of a swing voter  mdmc   Jun-18-08 09:28 PM   #81 

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