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Response to Reply #286
399. THIS should be a separate thread --- we need a SERIOUS campaign here at DU
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 09:37 PM by defendandprotect
to inform about what monopoly "media" actually means in wiping out a "free press" ...
which is, needless to say, long gone ---

I'm having a bit of trouble with the video -- but the sound is fine --

Thank you!

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  -RIP, MSM NanceGreggs  Jun-16-08 08:48 PM   #0 
  - You hit it out of the park  Lex   Jun-16-08 08:49 PM   #1 
  - Thank you. n/t  laststeamtrain   Jun-16-08 08:52 PM   #2 
  - Thanks Nance.  ClassWarrior   Jun-16-08 08:53 PM   #3 
  - Well said. Let's save it all for Cronkite. nt  MookieWilson   Jun-16-08 08:53 PM   #4 
  - Damn good point. Cronkite's the last of the true TV journalists. And Nance...  speedoo   Jun-17-08 06:26 AM   #212 
  - But, but, but, they have the right  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-16-08 08:54 PM   #5 
  - See, people??  michele77   Jun-16-08 08:54 PM   #6 
  - funeral tomorrow....not done  medeak   Jun-16-08 08:59 PM   #11 
     - well, true enough.  michele77   Jun-16-08 09:02 PM   #13 
     - Yep...I heard Andrea Mitchell say there would be a "private"  vanlassie   Jun-17-08 10:21 AM   #279 
        - In the CELEBRITY world . . . it seems to --- !!!  defendandprotect   Jun-17-08 02:55 PM   #348 
  - Thank you!  notsodumbhillbilly   Jun-16-08 08:55 PM   #7 
  - Yes. Your post honors Russert the man, the son, the father, the human, etc.  Old Crusoe   Jun-16-08 08:55 PM   #8 
  - You speak in past tense but we have but reached the intermission  peace13   Jun-17-08 08:53 AM   #240 
  - Well Done Nance.  chimpsrsmarter   Jun-16-08 08:56 PM   #9 
  - He was one of the loudest voices in the run up to the Iraq invasion  madokie   Jun-16-08 08:58 PM   #10 
  - He not only beat the drums, he helped manufacture them.  Raster   Jun-16-08 09:02 PM   #15 
  - And that, I cannot get around, either. GREAT post, Nance.  calimary   Jun-17-08 03:47 AM   #190 
  - And every hour that they spend on the air talking about what a "tough"  gkhouston   Jun-16-08 09:25 PM   #24 
  - Thank you  Mabus   Jun-16-08 08:59 PM   #12 
  - Thank you for saying everything I've been feeling  Warpy   Jun-16-08 09:02 PM   #14 
  - While I agree with your opinion of what passes for journalism these days...  NC_Nurse   Jun-16-08 09:04 PM   #16 
  - I have to respectfully disagree ...  NanceGreggs   Jun-16-08 09:18 PM   #22 
  - Glenn Greenwald cites many polls showing Americans don't like infotainment and want news  bjobotts   Jun-17-08 12:34 AM   #121 
  - Always packaged in bite sized pieces  JNelson6563   Jun-17-08 06:13 AM   #210 
  - The Nielsen Ratings..  OutaTowner   Jun-17-08 08:56 AM   #242 
  - People may SAY that in-depth news is what they want, but their viewing  NC_Nurse   Jun-17-08 11:32 AM   #300 
  - True . . . and much of it is based on pandering to baser emotions ---  defendandprotect   Jun-17-08 03:03 PM   #351 
  - I agree  SusanaMontana41   Jun-16-08 09:34 PM   #25 
  - McClatchey has just laid off hundreds in NC : (  NC_Nurse   Jun-17-08 02:19 PM   #341 
     - I did not know that.  SusanaMontana41   Jun-17-08 09:13 PM   #398 
  - You don't do truthful journalism because the public already gets it ---  defendandprotect   Jun-17-08 03:01 PM   #349 
     - Well, right. But don't expect the media conglomerates to change unless  NC_Nurse   Jun-17-08 03:45 PM   #356 
        - This is a case of monopoly ---  defendandprotect   Jun-17-08 04:31 PM   #360 
           - I agree. Unfortunately, not many folks paid attention when the FCC screwed  NC_Nurse   Jun-17-08 08:46 PM   #392 
              - Bell System was efficient --- and probably one successful monopoly . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-17-08 08:52 PM   #395 
  - Very excellent wording of what outrages so many of us.  truedelphi   Jun-16-08 09:05 PM   #17 
  - I ran a big story on Molly in the newspaper I work for  SusanaMontana41   Jun-16-08 09:36 PM   #27 
     - Thank you for doing that.  truedelphi   Jun-16-08 09:44 PM   #30 
        - Thanks for that!  SusanaMontana41   Jun-16-08 09:48 PM   #35 
  - A superb post  malaise   Jun-16-08 09:07 PM   #18 
  - thanks once again......  blue sky at night   Jun-16-08 09:10 PM   #19 
  - "Sorry KO and all you media schmucks..."  BerryBush   Jun-16-08 10:02 PM   #37 
  - hey sorry if I misspelled it, guess the spell checker.....  blue sky at night   Jun-16-08 10:48 PM   #53 
  - The "Bush pin..."  XtraProudDem   Jun-17-08 08:58 AM   #244 
     - Al Gore told that story  Nightjock   Jun-17-08 02:02 PM   #338 
     - I haven't heard anything  XtraProudDem   Jun-17-08 02:40 PM   #344 
     - guess I am sick of the overkill.  blue sky at night   Jun-17-08 08:47 PM   #394 
  - Hearing about some of the relationships and seeming influence he had...  HughMoran   Jun-16-08 09:16 PM   #20 
  - U hit the nail on the head, knocked it out of the park, all of it. Thanks  EV_Ares   Jun-16-08 09:17 PM   #21 
  - spot on..the exact points you mention are my issues as well..and i tried to say them but  xiamiam   Jun-16-08 10:28 PM   #43 
  - k&r  Swamp Rat   Jun-16-08 09:24 PM   #23 
  - K&R  Octafish   Jun-16-08 09:35 PM   #26 
  - Thank you, Nance, for throwing your weight and wording behind what many tried to say.  Gidney N Cloyd   Jun-16-08 09:36 PM   #28 
  - Thanks. Food tv looks good these days!  curious one   Jun-16-08 09:39 PM   #29 
  - I can K&R this one. Well said all the way around. Respectful and truthful.  OMomma   Jun-16-08 09:44 PM   #31 
  - The death throes of legitimate journalism in MSM  madamesilverspurs   Jun-16-08 09:45 PM   #32 
  - A pleasure to agree with you so very fully  Bluenorthwest   Jun-16-08 09:47 PM   #33 
  - K&R Unvarnished truth, this! One of your best! nt  puebloknot   Jun-16-08 09:47 PM   #34 
  - Thank you! I recommend all on DU who has been extolling Russert for his fairness, search DU.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jun-16-08 09:55 PM   #36 
  - Thanks, Nance  ladym55   Jun-16-08 10:08 PM   #38 
  - Thank you, thank you, thank you! eom  greyghost   Jun-16-08 10:09 PM   #39 
  - Awesome post....as always...n/t  DearAbby   Jun-16-08 10:14 PM   #40 
  - Excellent as always. Please consider sending this to Keith Olbermann  jgraz   Jun-16-08 10:19 PM   #41 
  - did he really do that?  orleans   Jun-16-08 10:37 PM   #47 
  - Last Friday, I would understand anything on their part. Later... not so much.  jgraz   Jun-16-08 10:42 PM   #49 
     - Keith's comments  XtraProudDem   Jun-17-08 09:03 AM   #248 
        - They bother me because they are bullying, anti-democratic and fundamentally misguided  jgraz   Jun-17-08 10:13 AM   #277 
           - He suggested...  XtraProudDem   Jun-17-08 02:41 PM   #345 
  - question: are you sure that was Keith?  progdonkey   Jun-16-08 10:52 PM   #55 
     - KO has an account and posts there often.  jgraz   Jun-16-08 10:57 PM   #59 
        - well, he's probably not in the best mood right now...  progdonkey   Jun-16-08 11:14 PM   #70 
           - Hey, KO is one of my (very few) heroes. But he did a dumb thing here.  jgraz   Jun-16-08 11:19 PM   #72 
              - yeah, that was a weirdly ironic post...  progdonkey   Jun-16-08 11:56 PM   #91 
  - Did they go on like this for Peter Jennings?...n/t  DearAbby   Jun-16-08 10:25 PM   #42 
  - What shall we expect for Barbara Walters --- or Rush Limbaugh!!  defendandprotect   Jun-17-08 04:44 PM   #362 
  - The same kind of public flagellation occurred after 9-11  Tutonic   Jun-16-08 10:29 PM   #44 
  - . Isn't this the real legacy of George Bush and Dick Cheney?  grantcart   Jun-16-08 10:30 PM   #45 
  - Tim bought into the role of corporate shill long before Bush/Cheney arrived  tblue37   Jun-17-08 12:15 AM   #104 
  - Except there were editorial & corporate decisions to not seriously challenge or question  Garbo 2004   Jun-17-08 04:31 AM   #193 
     - Excellent post worthy of it's own nomination for greatest page  me b zola   Jun-17-08 11:06 AM   #288 
     - Agreed. -nt  crickets   Jun-17-08 04:47 PM   #364 
     - adn again how many leaders of the Democratic Party would have failed that test?  grantcart   Jun-17-08 11:07 AM   #290 
     - Not "would have," but did. Congress as a whole failed in its consitutional duty on so many matters.  Garbo 2004   Jun-18-08 12:05 PM   #413 
     - The corporations aren't hiring hosts who won't do their dirty work . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-17-08 04:49 PM   #365 
  - Well Done NG! - Thanks  Phred42   Jun-16-08 10:30 PM   #46 
  - You're not a journalist so ...  hurricaneric   Jun-16-08 10:40 PM   #48 
  - you gotta be kidding...nt  xiamiam   Jun-16-08 10:47 PM   #52 
  - Not a bit  hurricaneric   Jun-16-08 10:56 PM   #56 
     - I have two newspapers delivered to my door every day for years.  anniebelle   Jun-17-08 04:43 AM   #197 
     - Try Learning From The BBC. - Hurricaneric  emanymton   Jun-17-08 05:12 AM   #203 
     - If you followed the posts  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 07:33 AM   #228 
        - The entire MSM deserves harsh criticism and has forgotten that it  Skidmore   Jun-17-08 12:08 PM   #306 
        - No, your real problem is that you feel you haven't had enough attention.  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 08:39 PM   #390 
     - Did you see my post the other day?  HEyHEY   Jun-17-08 01:00 PM   #315 
        - Who are "these people?" Democrats? Progressives? DUers? (nt)  Ignis   Jun-17-08 02:55 PM   #347 
           - DUers  HEyHEY   Jun-17-08 04:21 PM   #359 
              - Sounds like a horrible group of people. (nt)  Ignis   Jun-17-08 04:51 PM   #366 
  - Did you forget the "sarcasm" thingy?  NanceGreggs   Jun-16-08 10:52 PM   #54 
  - So when you refer to the MSM  hurricaneric   Jun-16-08 11:02 PM   #63 
     - My definition of the "MSM" is quite succinct these days ...  NanceGreggs   Jun-16-08 11:12 PM   #69 
     - I wonder  hurricaneric   Jun-16-08 11:22 PM   #73 
     - Just tell me the truth ...  NanceGreggs   Jun-16-08 11:28 PM   #75 
        - A real journalist would never ...  hurricaneric   Jun-16-08 11:33 PM   #77 
        - That's nowhere near a "real journalist" ...  NanceGreggs   Jun-16-08 11:36 PM   #78 
        - So you're saying ...  hurricaneric   Jun-16-08 11:38 PM   #79 
        - You seem very confused.  Dr_eldritch   Jun-17-08 04:45 PM   #363 
           - I'm saying  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 07:39 PM   #376 
              - Then you need to read the OP more throroughly...  Dr_eldritch   Jun-17-08 10:12 PM   #403 
        - And this coming from someone with ...  hurricaneric   Jun-16-08 11:41 PM   #82 
           - I don't know ...  NanceGreggs   Jun-16-08 11:49 PM   #87 
           - Exactly!  hurricaneric   Jun-16-08 11:55 PM   #90 
           - You just finished telling me that ...  NanceGreggs   Jun-17-08 12:02 AM   #93 
           - Um ... actually  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:15 AM   #105 
           - "I could give a sh*t."  NanceGreggs   Jun-17-08 12:22 AM   #112 
           - Wow  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:29 AM   #118 
              - Aw wassa matta?? Having some relevance issues in your daily life?  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 12:34 AM   #122 
              - Here's just one to whet your pallet  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:36 AM   #124 
                 - Your talent for stating the obvious is breathtaking.  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 12:45 AM   #131 
                 - Typical  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:52 AM   #139 
                 - Ah. If my response is typical, I'm thinking we now fully understand  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 12:58 AM   #142 
                 - And that's why I actually do this for a living rather than  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:03 AM   #144 
                 - Wow, a self-important nobody, that no one has ever heard of  TheWatcher   Jun-17-08 01:18 AM   #159 
                 - Excuse me sir  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:23 AM   #163 
                 - You all pulled this same shit on me a few days ago when I tried to make the same points  HEyHEY   Jun-17-08 01:05 PM   #318 
                 - Thank you for sticking up for the deceased.  quantessd   Jun-17-08 01:35 AM   #173 
                 - People paying you JUST to get them ratings isn't always something to be proud of!  calipendence   Jun-17-08 03:32 PM   #353 
                 - I agree with you  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 07:42 PM   #377 
                 - The way it is so widespread and strangling though, it's an apt generatlization to make!  calipendence   Jun-17-08 08:09 PM   #384 
                 - What you got big shot?  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:59 AM   #143 
                 - I've got my own loofa.  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 01:04 AM   #145 
                 - Oh, and so you know.  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:12 AM   #151 
                 - The length of time you've been here has nothing to do with the  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 01:13 AM   #153 
                 - No, but it has to do with the quality of your opinion ...  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:15 AM   #156 
                 - Ah.  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 01:16 AM   #157 
                 - Oh, and so YOU know  TheWatcher   Jun-17-08 01:49 AM   #184 
                 - Ouch. That'll leave a mark.....  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 01:51 AM   #185 
                 - Well, I'm tired of waiting for the Pizza delivery - I have  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 01:56 AM   #186 
                 - there are a few good journalists left  newspeak   Jun-17-08 02:06 PM   #339 
                 - that's what I thought  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:05 AM   #146 
                 - Maybe we'd be more civil if you refrained from attacking one of the best  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 01:11 AM   #150 
                 - Yeah  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:13 AM   #152 
                 - And who's we...  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:18 AM   #158 
                 - Yeah, on one hand, Democratic Party politics like entropy, is a bitch.  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 01:23 AM   #164 
                 - Entropy?  OutaTowner   Jun-17-08 09:20 AM   #256 
                 - It has so far this year.  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 10:28 AM   #283 
                 - polish off your keyboard for another day  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 07:13 AM   #222 
                 - Nance said it herself  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 07:36 AM   #229 
                 - Neither is what Tim Russert did...  ElboRuum   Jun-17-08 12:49 PM   #313 
                 - Excellent.  XtraProudDem   Jun-17-08 09:13 AM   #253 
                 - And by the way, Murrow Jr., if this is an example of how stellar you can write  TheWatcher   Jun-17-08 01:22 AM   #162 
                 - Yeah, but like I said earlier, ya gotta whatch out for your loofas....  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 01:24 AM   #165 
                 - Maybe Bill got drunk and decided to see what the other side was like  TheWatcher   Jun-17-08 01:26 AM   #166 
                 - I haven't had this much fun since the Benny left.  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 01:31 AM   #170 
                 - Always glad to entertain.  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:32 AM   #171 
                 - The problem is, like the film Battlefield Earth, you are unintentionally hilarious  TheWatcher   Jun-17-08 01:37 AM   #175 
                 - It's an example of my writing at DU  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:26 AM   #167 
                 - Your warm and runny feelings for the MSM, although charming and  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 01:29 AM   #168 
                 - to actually say Nance is a journalist  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:38 AM   #176 
                 - To actually say YOU are a journalist  TheWatcher   Jun-17-08 01:39 AM   #178 
                 - Get paid for it 40 hours a week buddy  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:41 AM   #179 
                 - "I've known journalists, sir, and you are no journalist"  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 01:45 AM   #182 
                 - Can't read or just an ass?  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 07:06 AM   #220 
                 - Aren't you supposed to be journaling somewhere??  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 10:46 AM   #285 
                 - you make my point for me  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 07:46 PM   #378 
                 - Believe me, with writing like that.....  TheWatcher   Jun-17-08 01:45 AM   #183 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-17-08 07:07 AM   #221 
                 - Ah yes, the typical response from people here  HEyHEY   Jun-17-08 01:07 PM   #319 
                 - Well, knowing you get paid as a journalist  sammythecat   Jun-17-08 10:11 PM   #402 
                 - Were finals over this week? I've noticed more high schoolers around the  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 01:43 AM   #180 
                 - Oh please, more, MORE Propaganda, MORE Spin  TheWatcher   Jun-17-08 01:34 AM   #172 
                 - I'm stealing that - 'render unto me a fucking break'  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 01:37 AM   #174 
                 - Steal Away, Good Man, Steal Away. :)  TheWatcher   Jun-17-08 01:38 AM   #177 
                 - It's nice that you have to result to personal attacks  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 07:54 PM   #381 
                 - But...  OutaTowner   Jun-17-08 10:06 AM   #273 
                 - That's right, they were just "following orders."  TheWatcher   Jun-17-08 01:53 PM   #335 
                 - Lets see if I got this right..  OutaTowner   Jun-17-08 09:51 AM   #271 
                 - It's nice that you have to result to personal attacks  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 07:53 PM   #380 
                 - I agree with Nance  Doctor Panacea   Jun-17-08 10:07 AM   #274 
              - Are not three of the sources you cite partially responsible for the ignorace of the American public  Raineyb   Jun-17-08 10:08 AM   #275 
           - since you listen to NPR religiously  newspeak   Jun-17-08 02:21 PM   #342 
           - That's too bad...  XtraProudDem   Jun-17-08 09:16 AM   #254 
           - You are a journalist like I'm Betty Paige.  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 12:27 AM   #117 
           - you are confused  SemperEadem   Jun-17-08 01:01 PM   #316 
              - I attack the notion that all main stream media is bad  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 07:51 PM   #379 
           - love that one !  Swagman   Jun-17-08 09:01 AM   #246 
           - more than you  SemperEadem   Jun-17-08 12:57 PM   #314 
        - then you are no journalist despite your claim  Carolina   Jun-17-08 12:05 AM   #96 
        - And I'm sure you think ...  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:08 AM   #100 
        - A journalist digs up facts despite what other people think or say.  Selatius   Jun-17-08 12:27 AM   #116 
        - research is part of journalism  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:34 AM   #123 
           - Personally, what I object to in the corporate outlets skimming over news.  Selatius   Jun-17-08 12:47 AM   #136 
              - I agree wholeheartedly  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:53 AM   #140 
                 - Eh, I have more faith in foreign outlets. I like folks like Sy Hersh though. He's a good one. nt  Selatius   Jun-17-08 01:06 AM   #147 
                    - I subscribe to the New Yorker  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:07 AM   #148 
                       - Yeah, with Hersh, the downtime between stories can be long, but I don't mind.  Selatius   Jun-17-08 01:11 AM   #149 
                          - No doubt  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:13 AM   #154 
        - Journalists tell you what others think?You only know what others say  bjobotts   Jun-17-08 12:41 AM   #125 
        - And if they say lies a real journalist investigates and tells you what they think about those lies  bjobotts   Jun-17-08 12:42 AM   #127 
           - based on the facts they discover from investigasting those lies.  bjobotts   Jun-17-08 12:43 AM   #129 
           - You sound like a pompous ass who doesn't know shit about journalism  bjobotts   Jun-17-08 12:44 AM   #130 
              - Nobody can tell you what another person is thinking, only what they are thinking.  bjobotts   Jun-17-08 12:46 AM   #133 
                 - Great post Greggs, some people have a natural jounalistic gift  bjobotts   Jun-17-08 12:47 AM   #135 
                    - And some people stuggle very hard just to criticize them. Hugs.  bjobotts   Jun-17-08 12:47 AM   #138 
           - wrong again  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:46 AM   #134 
              - Hi Hurricaneric  Number23   Jun-17-08 02:42 AM   #188 
              - Of course not.  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 07:25 AM   #225 
              - Merriam-Webster Definition of Journalism  OutaTowner   Jun-17-08 10:14 AM   #278 
        - Are you sure?  SwiperFox   Jun-17-08 05:30 AM   #205 
        - thanks for the advice pops  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 07:31 AM   #227 
        - a journalist always has to report  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 07:42 AM   #232 
           - Too bad...  SwiperFox   Jun-18-08 03:01 AM   #408 
        - I have been here as long as anyone, still don't spell well  klyon   Jun-17-08 12:30 PM   #309 
        - eric, reporters are not supposed to tell you what...  prairierose   Jun-17-08 12:32 PM   #310 
        - and yet  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:28 PM   #325 
        - DING DING DING We have a winner!!!  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 08:43 PM   #391 
           - you're welcome..n/t  prairierose   Jun-18-08 12:30 AM   #407 
        - again, you're confused  SemperEadem   Jun-17-08 01:44 PM   #332 
           - From my perspective  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:51 PM   #334 
              - News 'consumers' blur the lines???  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 08:46 PM   #393 
        - And I suppose you are?  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:17 AM   #109 
        - No, he's exactly right; a journalist editorializing is a major faux pas  HEyHEY   Jun-17-08 01:09 PM   #321 
        - Dang that's funny  Frank Lemadeer   Jun-17-08 08:51 AM   #238 
        - Um, yeah ...  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 09:00 AM   #245 
        - I missed no point  Frank Lemadeer   Jun-17-08 11:29 AM   #298 
        - No, Frank  OutaTowner   Jun-17-08 10:23 AM   #281 
           - Oh Yes, Outa  Frank Lemadeer   Jun-17-08 11:56 AM   #304 
        - Swift Boats, anyone?  lolly   Jun-17-08 10:34 AM   #284 
        - Correct  HEyHEY   Jun-17-08 01:08 PM   #320 
        - Thing is you people often don't want to hear it  HEyHEY   Jun-17-08 01:03 PM   #317 
     - I'm merely playing devil's advocate here...Message:  OutaTowner   Jun-17-08 09:35 AM   #266 
     - How about the DCM? The Dominant Corporate Media?  ClassWarrior   Jun-17-08 12:32 AM   #120 
  - The poster you're responding to used to be a journalist, ironically.  JeffR   Jun-16-08 10:57 PM   #57 
  - and you admit you have no fucking idea what happened on MTP...  progdonkey   Jun-16-08 11:03 PM   #64 
  - That wasn't the point  hurricaneric   Jun-16-08 11:09 PM   #67 
  - And you can prove this, how? O'reilly called. He wants his loofa back.  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 12:30 AM   #119 
  - Oh my god  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:43 AM   #128 
     - Yep. O'reilly REALLY wants his loofa back.  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 12:47 AM   #137 
  - It's true. Which of those who do "the job of journalism"  redqueen   Jun-17-08 09:30 AM   #263 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-16-08 11:23 PM   #74 
     - do you have any contrasting evidence?  progdonkey   Jun-16-08 11:42 PM   #83 
        - So, how about when ...  hurricaneric   Jun-16-08 11:52 PM   #89 
           - "Or when he entered the lion's den - the oval office  Carolina   Jun-17-08 12:15 AM   #106 
           - David Duke?  progdonkey   Jun-17-08 01:21 AM   #160 
  - "for very little pay" ??? Tim Russert was a millionaire  L0oniX   Jun-16-08 11:48 PM   #85 
  - Um ... okay  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:03 AM   #94 
  - Welcome to my ignore dungeon ...where 32 out of 68 have received the granite cookie.  L0oniX   Jun-17-08 12:07 AM   #99 
  - Cindy the witch will probably steal the recipe for that cookie, too.  Major Hogwash   Jun-17-08 10:05 AM   #272 
  - LOonix, how can you search to find out who the newly departed are?  kath   Jun-17-08 12:16 PM   #308 
     - I suppose there is more than one way to find out who has been TS'd.  L0oniX   Jun-17-08 10:06 PM   #401 
        - thanks.  kath   Jun-18-08 12:19 AM   #406 
  - 'Journalist' Russert: "Integrity is for paupers!"  ClassWarrior   Jun-17-08 12:46 AM   #132 
     - Yawn...  XtraProudDem   Jun-17-08 09:25 AM   #259 
  - Tim Russert being greased with money makes it all the more understandable, though.  quantessd   Jun-17-08 01:43 AM   #181 
  - Please keep telling them gawd awful trolls the truth.  truedelphi   Jun-18-08 05:29 PM   #414 
  - "You're not a journalist"...  BushDespiser12   Jun-16-08 11:49 PM   #88 
  - Exactly what's unsubstantiated in this post?  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:04 AM   #95 
  - 80 poster, you have come to the wrong  Carolina   Jun-17-08 12:02 AM   #92 
  - Oh  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:10 AM   #101 
     - is that supposed to be an insult?  Carolina   Jun-17-08 12:25 AM   #115 
        - You have 1000 plus posts  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 12:41 AM   #126 
           - hey hurricaneric you seem uncomfortable  vincenzoesq   Jun-17-08 04:30 AM   #192 
  - Russert Wasn't a REAL Journalist  fascisthunter   Jun-17-08 04:55 AM   #199 
  - .  fascisthunter   Jun-17-08 04:58 AM   #200 
  - Thankless job?  Bluenorthwest   Jun-17-08 07:44 AM   #233 
  - The fact that Russert made a  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 07:50 AM   #234 
     - Projecting  Bluenorthwest   Jun-17-08 01:29 PM   #327 
        - I agree with you there  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:33 PM   #329 
  - Excellent post  XtraProudDem   Jun-17-08 09:07 AM   #249 
  - The "job of journalism" (awkward...), IF it is to assist the public  redqueen   Jun-17-08 09:22 AM   #257 
  - You can come up with a better criticism than that  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:39 PM   #330 
  - you would make a perect editor  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 01:41 PM   #331 
  - You mention "little pay"  truedelphi   Jun-18-08 05:32 PM   #415 
  - 9/11? Katrina? How about Iowa RIGHT FUCKING NOW?!  robertpaulsen   Jun-16-08 10:43 PM   #50 
  - Iowa?  NanceGreggs   Jun-16-08 10:58 PM   #60 
  - K&R! n/t  junofeb   Jun-16-08 10:44 PM   #51 
  - I have only a passing notion of who Tim Russert even WAS  Mythsaje   Jun-16-08 10:57 PM   #58 
  - Mythsaje!  JeffR   Jun-16-08 10:58 PM   #61 
     - Fair to middlin'  Mythsaje   Jun-16-08 11:01 PM   #62 
        - Hangin' in, insanely busy, which beats not being busy, of course.  JeffR   Jun-16-08 11:03 PM   #65 
           - I know about busy.  Mythsaje   Jun-16-08 11:09 PM   #66 
              - Sorry to hear that.  JeffR   Jun-16-08 11:11 PM   #68 
                 - Could be, now that the whole Primary thing is over.  Mythsaje   Jun-16-08 11:15 PM   #71 
  - Well said, Nance.  BushDespiser12   Jun-16-08 11:30 PM   #76 
  - My sentiments too and more...  L0oniX   Jun-16-08 11:38 PM   #80 
  - Well Spoken.  D23MIURG23   Jun-16-08 11:40 PM   #81 
  - Nance, this was true and valuable.  DaveT   Jun-16-08 11:44 PM   #84 
  - K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R!!!  Carolina   Jun-16-08 11:48 PM   #86 
  - K&R. Thanks for helping to counterbalance the hagiography. n/t  tblue37   Jun-17-08 12:05 AM   #97 
  - He was certainly no Walter Cronkite.  Lugnut   Jun-17-08 12:07 AM   #98 
  - The Peanut Gallery speaks  HousePainter   Jun-17-08 12:10 AM   #102 
  - The Peanut Gallery? Oh please. Your post came from PR at NBC  Raster   Jun-17-08 04:32 AM   #194 
  - No ,my post came from watching Russert  HousePainter   Jun-17-08 07:52 AM   #235 
  - "endless examples of Russert probing and forcing his guests to discuss and defend their stands"  redqueen   Jun-17-08 09:35 AM   #264 
     - Gee ! how clever and substantive  HousePainter   Jun-18-08 07:28 AM   #411 
        - WE actually paid attention to his interviews.  redqueen   Jun-18-08 09:52 AM   #412 
           - Gee another winner.  HousePainter   Jun-18-08 10:03 PM   #416 
  - Excellently put them in their place, their graves.  lonestarnot   Jun-17-08 12:12 AM   #103 
  - K&R  nam78_two   Jun-17-08 12:16 AM   #107 
  - Right on!  SwiperFox   Jun-17-08 12:17 AM   #108 
  - Exactly. He got all his glory already, with his milliom $ salary and Media Darling status  bjobotts   Jun-17-08 12:19 AM   #110 
  - Propaganda message, saying nothing that isn't approved.. Glad to see others of like mind  bjobotts   Jun-17-08 12:24 AM   #114 
  - K&R  McCamy Taylor   Jun-17-08 12:21 AM   #111 
  - The Daily Howler and Russert..............  springhill   Jun-17-08 12:57 AM   #141 
  - Nance - The best summation of what I felt and couldn't  cliffordu   Jun-17-08 12:23 AM   #113 
  - (real) JOURNALISTS KILLED ON DUTY: 129* (in Iraq)  arikara   Jun-17-08 01:15 AM   #155 
  - Recommended  crickets   Jun-17-08 01:22 AM   #161 
  - What about the journalists who died in combat?  neuvocat   Jun-17-08 01:29 AM   #169 
  - Exactly right-recommended.eom  Reterr   Jun-17-08 02:36 AM   #187 
  - Groan.  cboy4   Jun-17-08 02:54 AM   #189 
  - Name one thing about grave dancing in the original post. Please. You tell me, what is or are  Raster   Jun-17-08 04:29 AM   #191 
  - This part:  cboy4   Jun-17-08 04:40 AM   #195 
     - Don't even. I didn't have to buy. It was shoved down my throat.  Raster   Jun-17-08 04:48 AM   #198 
        - It's grave dancing disguised by what you call frustration and  cboy4   Jun-17-08 05:49 AM   #208 
  - What's even worse is your complaining about said Grave Dancing  TheWatcher   Jun-17-08 05:06 AM   #202 
     - I realize the OP Is the official spokeswoman for you and  cboy4   Jun-17-08 05:45 AM   #207 
        - Oh, please, would you stop with the pathetic ninnying.  TheWatcher   Jun-17-08 01:50 PM   #333 
           - Mmmmm Hmmmm  cboy4   Jun-17-08 08:10 PM   #385 
  - I wish I could rec this thread a million times!  jennied   Jun-17-08 04:42 AM   #196 
  - recommend --- there's one for you!  defendandprotect   Jun-17-08 04:57 PM   #369 
  - Another Great Post... Like a Fog Cutter  fascisthunter   Jun-17-08 05:00 AM   #201 
  - Yes! Spot on. ...  ShortnFiery   Jun-17-08 05:18 AM   #204 
  - Excellent read, Nance  Jeanette in FL   Jun-17-08 05:33 AM   #206 
  - Best post ever, Nance. Thank You n/t  anitar1   Jun-17-08 05:52 AM   #209 
  - BINGO!!!! K&R  mirrera   Jun-17-08 06:24 AM   #211 
  - I am reminded of the few Journalists that have made a mark...  rasputin1952   Jun-17-08 06:35 AM   #213 
  - Dear MSM:  rucky   Jun-17-08 06:39 AM   #214 
  - Great post!  Clear Blue Sky   Jun-17-08 06:42 AM   #215 
  - Thank you, NG.  democrank   Jun-17-08 06:50 AM   #216 
  - amen to that  acetylyne   Jun-17-08 06:57 AM   #217 
  - Right on target.  kenzee13   Jun-17-08 07:00 AM   #218 
  - Watch Orwell Rolls In His Grave  Echo In Light   Jun-17-08 07:02 AM   #219 
  - I hope more people watch this video. PLEASE.  saddlesore   Jun-17-08 10:58 AM   #286 
     - THIS should be a separate thread --- we need a SERIOUS campaign here at DU  defendandprotect   Jun-17-08 09:37 PM   #399 
  - October 2007  Highway61   Jun-17-08 07:13 AM   #223 
  - One of your best ever!  HamdenRice   Jun-17-08 07:24 AM   #224 
  - MSM ? Nothing but disinformation and delusions.  pwb   Jun-17-08 07:30 AM   #226 
  - Another Nance grand slam....  4_TN_TITANS   Jun-17-08 07:40 AM   #230 
  - Bravo  Waiting to exhale   Jun-17-08 07:41 AM   #231 
  - wow nance, i totally agree  psychmommy   Jun-17-08 08:22 AM   #236 
  - Nail, meet head. /nt  al bupp   Jun-17-08 08:41 AM   #237 
  - Out of the park perfect.. reasoned, well-stated and respectful all at once. K&R  K Gardner   Jun-17-08 08:53 AM   #239 
  - Damn. These rants get better and better as the day goes by.  The Backlash Cometh   Jun-17-08 08:55 AM   #241 
  - THIS is the NanceGreggs I used to know and love.  Seabiscuit   Jun-17-08 08:56 AM   #243 
  - spot on ! please read 'Flat Earth News' by Nick Davies..  Swagman   Jun-17-08 09:03 AM   #247 
  - Thank you. nt  NoFederales   Jun-17-08 09:09 AM   #250 
  - What about those of us DUers that are mourning? Can't you respect our feelings?  FutureDemocrat   Jun-17-08 09:11 AM   #251 
  - Ugg...  trumad   Jun-17-08 04:54 PM   #368 
  - Please point out to me where ...  NanceGreggs   Jun-17-08 06:18 PM   #375 
  - I sure hope "KO" is reading this one!  redqueen   Jun-17-08 09:12 AM   #252 
  - Thank you, NanceGreggs. K&R  Pooka Fey   Jun-17-08 09:19 AM   #255 
  - Kick  Winebrat   Jun-17-08 09:24 AM   #258 
  - K and R  OwnedByFerrets   Jun-17-08 09:25 AM   #260 
  - Bingo, Nance.  npincus   Jun-17-08 09:27 AM   #261 
  - Good piece, Nance. I don't agree with all of it, but I have a question:  Buzz Clik   Jun-17-08 09:28 AM   #262 
  - K&R you are spot on  wowimthere   Jun-17-08 09:35 AM   #265 
  - Well said. K & R  Nothing Without Hope   Jun-17-08 09:37 AM   #267 
  - My thoughts exactly  Defenestrate   Jun-17-08 09:42 AM   #268 
  - I sadly agree.  BonnieJW   Jun-17-08 09:46 AM   #269 
  - In an earlier day...  JHB   Jun-17-08 09:50 AM   #270 
  - So true  Frank Lemadeer   Jun-17-08 01:10 PM   #322 
  - Thank you for saying so well what I have been feeling for the past few days.  CrispyQGirl   Jun-17-08 10:11 AM   #276 
  - THANK YOU for expressing our outrage so well.  Overseas   Jun-17-08 10:23 AM   #280 
  - you are just  barbtries   Jun-17-08 10:26 AM   #282 
  - Recommendation #199. n/t  Z_I_Peevey   Jun-17-08 11:01 AM   #287 
  - K&R #200  vanboggie   Jun-17-08 11:07 AM   #289 
  - That is what's been bugging me the last few days.  Indenturedebtor   Jun-17-08 11:09 AM   #291 
  - Bless you!  ResetButton   Jun-17-08 11:11 AM   #292 
  - some 58 year old dude has a heart attack, big deal  natrat   Jun-17-08 11:12 AM   #293 
  - All good citizens should love and adore our friends on the telescreen!  tabasco   Jun-17-08 11:14 AM   #294 
  - Nance, there are undoubtedly millions of  LibDemAlways   Jun-17-08 11:17 AM   #295 
  - Thanks for verbalizing everything I've been thinking. K&R  sazemisery   Jun-17-08 11:17 AM   #296 
  - You do realise..  Finite   Jun-17-08 11:18 AM   #297 
  - K&R  me b zola   Jun-17-08 11:30 AM   #299 
  - A-freakin-men, Nance.  Oregonian   Jun-17-08 11:35 AM   #301 
  - Now that's what I call a rant.  sybylla   Jun-17-08 11:39 AM   #302 
  - Thanks Nance  GoldenOldie   Jun-17-08 12:03 PM   #305 
  - Hit the MSM nail on the head! Kudos to you.  literacyadvocate   Jun-17-08 11:54 AM   #303 
  - Well, yes.  yardwork   Jun-17-08 12:12 PM   #307 
  - Good work Nance.  asdjrocky   Jun-17-08 12:33 PM   #311 
  - Thanks Nance...  prairierose   Jun-17-08 12:33 PM   #312 
  - I agree. I stopped watching after the supreme court  midnight   Jun-17-08 01:11 PM   #323 
  - Blah, blah  HEyHEY   Jun-17-08 01:14 PM   #324 
  - This should be sent to Keith Olbermann, titled "The Viewers' Special Comment".  8_year_nightmare   Jun-17-08 01:28 PM   #326 
  - Thank you  varelse   Jun-17-08 01:30 PM   #328 
  - I agree...  AntiFascist   Jun-17-08 01:55 PM   #336 
  - You are amazing  Nightjock   Jun-17-08 01:57 PM   #337 
  - Keith Olberman called Tim Russert  hurricaneric   Jun-17-08 02:16 PM   #340 
  - Thanks Nance for striking the balance.  DWilliamsamh   Jun-17-08 02:24 PM   #343 
  - Those people are merely citizens . . . Russert was a CELEBRITY . . . !!!  defendandprotect   Jun-17-08 02:53 PM   #346 
  - On The Mark  colsohlibgal   Jun-17-08 03:02 PM   #350 
  - K&R  concerned canadian   Jun-17-08 03:18 PM   #352 
  - On the money.  Plucketeer   Jun-17-08 03:36 PM   #354 
  - Yup, you said it best, Nance, as usual. n/t  sofedupwithbush   Jun-17-08 03:43 PM   #355 
  - Kick!  8643   Jun-17-08 04:06 PM   #357 
  - death comes as the end..... and yet------->  happygoluckytoyou   Jun-17-08 04:12 PM   #358 
  - Send this to the so-called news departments, Nance. They deserve  MasonJar   Jun-17-08 04:40 PM   #361 
  - Great post Nance, I agree with everything except the term MSM  MN Against Bush   Jun-17-08 04:52 PM   #367 
  - I refer to them as the CPM - Corporate Propaganda Ministry.  kath   Jun-19-08 01:13 AM   #417 
  - Thank you, Nance ---  defendandprotect   Jun-17-08 05:00 PM   #370 
  - MSM is what they want you to call them  Mosaic   Jun-17-08 05:24 PM   #371 
  - K & R  La Coliniere   Jun-17-08 05:34 PM   #372 
  - I posted this when Tony Snow's cancer was announced in '06. Same principle. Great job, NG.  faygokid   Jun-17-08 05:43 PM   #373 
  - K&R  dicksteele   Jun-17-08 06:16 PM   #374 
  - wow.  Malloy63   Jun-17-08 08:02 PM   #382 
  - yo writer - you can't draw the line at being told a great journalist has passed.  ourbluenation   Jun-17-08 08:03 PM   #383 
  - I disagree with this sentence  Uncle Joe   Jun-17-08 08:14 PM   #386 
  - well most DU'rs can filter out the bullshit so why can't others? I say it's laziness. n/t  ourbluenation   Jun-17-08 08:24 PM   #388 
     - To begin with D.U. wasn't even around in the 90s and the Internet was  Uncle Joe   Jun-17-08 08:52 PM   #396 
     - Exactly, and that's why I have no patience with the Dem senators who voted for the war.  totodeinhere   Jun-17-08 08:52 PM   #397 
  - Well . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-17-08 09:58 PM   #400 
  - Powerful and Right On!  seeker4ever   Jun-17-08 08:19 PM   #387 
  - A perfect answer for the M$M imposed hair shirt that many even here  ooglymoogly   Jun-17-08 08:37 PM   #389 
  - Holy fuck this thread has a shitload of views  arcadian   Jun-17-08 10:41 PM   #404 
  - THIS TRUTH CANNOT BE RECOMMENDED HIGHLY ENOUGH.  Zhade   Jun-17-08 11:28 PM   #405 
  - Did these same MSM journalists mourn this way for their colleagues who were intentionally killed  deutsey   Jun-18-08 06:38 AM   #409 
  - Excellent! Why are we glorifying the inept MSM bobble heads? nt  janetblond   Jun-18-08 07:04 AM   #410 
 

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