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GA_ArmyVet Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:20 PM
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38. Thank you for the reply
Interesting take and well reasoned. Not that I agree with all that you said, but I like the polite discussion of differing view points and I thank you for that.

On the criminal citation that I made though, it is precisely correct. The city municipality derives it authority from the state, and must operate within the states laws. That does not mean that municipality is sovereign only that the state is. The city cannot and never will be able to charge a person for an act in which the state has already prosecuted someone for. The Federal Government can and often does. I am a US Federal Agent and I am well aware of jurisdictions, purviews, and adjudicating authority. You are correct in that there are several types of jurisdiction, for me, I normally operate in an exclusive federal jurisdiction, though I often work in joint and shared jurisdictions.

My point was that the State is considered a sovereign entity by the constitution. I also agree that the civil war established that the primacy of the federal government by right of arms and force, and subordinated the sovereign Individual States, it did not remove their sovereign status, but did subject the states to a subordinate status to the Union. One of the most visible change in that dramatic philosophical change was that prior to the civil war, the country was almost always referred to as the "Union of These Several States" and but after the war it was almost always referred to as the United States Of America. In fact the USofA and the European Union or more closely related in form than many people realize. The EU is a Union of several sovereign European States as is the US. Currently the EU states retain more of their sovereignty than do US states.


I really have more to respond on but I just don't have the time right this minute to fully lay out more right now. I rarely have time to respond and due to work and kids, but I do love to read others points of view and broaden more own points of view, so seriously thank you for the response.
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