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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 03:51 PM
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106. I agree. Can't we scout around and find *somebody* with integrity... this huge nation, to serve as our public servants at the highest level?

Gender diversity won't save us. Last night, I watched on C-SPAN a hearing of some committee of the British Parliament debating a new bill which would "Patriot Act" England even further by asking for longer periods of detention without charge for terrorist suspects. The person leading the charge *for* this reduction in civil rights was a *woman*. A *man* resigned his position in the House of Commons in protest over the passage of the bill. Seems they have the same collection of sheep for a "Congress" over there that we have over here.

The most difficult thing to overcome in saving the nation and the planet is that those in charge are "nice folks," with families, and senses of humor, and a certain charisma that makes it hard to stand back and make stern judgments about what they're doing to the world. The Tim Russert scenario comes to mind. Being a bit Irish, myself, he has always looked like someone I'd like to sit next to at a Riverdance performanance. Who could not love that roguish smile of his? But in fact, in my opinion, he made a mockery of the primary debate he presided over, in which he asked Kucinich a question about UFOs, and was blatantly preferential in whom he chose to allow to speak.

That old saw about the scientific community seems apt with regard to the passing of Tim Russert: "Sciene (Journalism) advances funeral by funeral." And yet, in watching the adulation toward Tim Russert on televsion yesterday, I admit I teared up a bit when I saw him with his son and his father, and observed the grief of those who worked with him. Thus is the power of the media to shape our thoughts and emotions. Thus is the humanity in most of us which makes it hard to pass *mature* judgment on someone who was such a nice guy that we'll just not talk about the harm he brought to the country, in his "Hail fellow, well met" kind of way.
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  -Impeachment hearings would destroy the Republicans librechik  Jun-12-08 01:11 PM   #0 
  - I agree 100% with this.  AndyA   Jun-12-08 01:16 PM   #1 
  - DITTO  debunkthelies   Jun-12-08 09:05 PM   #42 
  - The problem with your rant is this line:  iamahaingttta   Jun-12-08 01:24 PM   #2 
  - so we should lie down and let it happen instead of fighting?  librechik   Jun-12-08 01:32 PM   #3 
  - Damn right...  ColbertWatcher   Jun-12-08 01:52 PM   #9 
  - Of course... I should have added...  iamahaingttta   Jun-12-08 04:18 PM   #29 
     - yes, we need to take it step by step so we are not overwhelmed  librechik   Jun-12-08 05:37 PM   #31 
  - Yep those lying sacks of POOP are not much in the way of an information orgy  truedelphi   Jun-12-08 01:33 PM   #4 
  - Yeah, hearings would expose their complicity,  Raksha   Jun-12-08 03:55 PM   #26 
  - Two reasons I disagree . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-12-08 08:12 PM   #36 
  - THIRD . . . we can see how little the Dem investigations have accomplished . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-12-08 08:42 PM   #37 
  - The clock has not run out. W can be impeached in ONE DAY. He already confessed on TV!  petgoat   Jun-13-08 11:07 AM   #67 
     - One day . . . vs how many days have they been investigating other crimes . . . ???  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:27 PM   #78 
  - Political Impeachment?  petgoat   Jun-13-08 11:05 AM   #66 
  - Logical flawless. The republicans won't get it, but this is exactly  The Wielding Truth   Jun-13-08 12:04 PM   #71 
  - There wouldn't be anything "political" about it --- except to save the nation  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:30 PM   #79 
  - The pukkkes will call anything we do political. Would I call off the search for my lost child  librechik   Jun-13-08 05:09 PM   #100 
  - The other problem with that line...  info being   Jun-13-08 02:36 AM   #56 
  - Agree . . we're expecting the same Democrats who helped Bush destroy the  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:32 PM   #80 
  - "Third World America" . ..? We're pretty much there . . . our infrastructure is failing . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:23 PM   #77 
  - Yes it would, so let the hearings begin  whistle   Jun-12-08 01:40 PM   #5 
  - We should impeach Cheney first  demnan   Jun-12-08 01:50 PM   #6 
  - I don't think we would get that far, so I don't fear Cheney  librechik   Jun-12-08 01:52 PM   #8 
     - A lot of the Cheney/Bush crimes are also hooked into the Pentagon/Intelligence MIIC . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:36 PM   #81 
  - What librechik said K R & Fuckin A right  Vincardog   Jun-12-08 01:52 PM   #7 
  - There is a presidential election every four years.  sharesunited   Jun-12-08 01:53 PM   #10 
  - for the majority here  temperancedissent   Jun-12-08 02:05 PM   #14 
  - You seem to think it helps the Dems in November. No a thousand times no.  sharesunited   Jun-12-08 02:08 PM   #16 
  - as a matter of fact i do think it will help  temperancedissent   Jun-12-08 02:11 PM   #17 
  - how?  librechik   Jun-12-08 03:33 PM   #19 
  - It exposes the crooks and their crimes of course.  chknltl   Jun-12-08 06:55 PM   #34 
     - yes indeed  librechik   Jun-12-08 10:45 PM   #48 
     - I agree with your reasoning and I'm rooting for impeachment . . . however . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:47 PM   #84 
        - PS: Anyone see anyone investigating the phony/corrupt Drug War????  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:48 PM   #85 
  - Yes, a thousand times YES!!!!  Raksha   Jun-12-08 03:41 PM   #23 
  - I agree . . . otherwise, we're saying, "don't worry the criminals are leaving in a short while" . .?  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:43 PM   #83 
  - Impeachment is the remedy for high crimes.  librechik   Jun-12-08 02:12 PM   #18 
  - And they've stolen those elections in 2000, 2002, 2004.....  puebloknot   Jun-12-08 08:58 PM   #41 
  - They've been stealing elections with computer counting . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:52 PM   #87 
     - "They weren't going to that much trouble..."  puebloknot   Jun-14-08 04:03 PM   #107 
        - Agree with you . . . sadly . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-15-08 12:49 AM   #108 
           - Haven't followed those links yet, but will. Busy, busy right now! nt  puebloknot   Jun-15-08 01:52 AM   #110 
  - Impeachment is a necessary remedy to trampling of the Constitution  petgoat   Jun-13-08 11:10 AM   #68 
  - Yes . . . perhaps in name only, however . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:41 PM   #82 
  - You're preaching to the preacher here.  Joe Fields   Jun-12-08 01:57 PM   #11 
  - Damn right. K&R  dicksteele   Jun-12-08 01:59 PM   #12 
  - Just imagine that!  lonestarnot   Jun-12-08 02:00 PM   #13 
  - Golly, and ya wonder why so many are against it?  Echo In Light   Jun-12-08 02:06 PM   #15 
  - There are always a lot of fools and cowards, Echo In Light.  JDPriestly   Jun-13-08 02:24 AM   #54 
     - Agreed. Lack of action sends a loud message to the world, and future admins  Echo In Light   Jun-13-08 04:08 PM   #96 
  - And so it should destroy them.  Cleita   Jun-12-08 03:36 PM   #20 
  - I've been saying this for MONTHS!!!  Raksha   Jun-12-08 03:38 PM   #21 
  - Even if there's no time to actually impeach  Jack Rabbit   Jun-12-08 03:38 PM   #22 
  - technically, impeachment can continue past the end of the administration  librechik   Jun-12-08 03:47 PM   #25 
     - There's no pressure?  Jack Rabbit   Jun-12-08 04:00 PM   #27 
     - oh, yes yes! I meant statute wise, he is not constrained  librechik   Jun-12-08 05:36 PM   #30 
     - It should be begun during the officer's tenure -- so it should begin  JDPriestly   Jun-13-08 02:28 AM   #55 
  - Exactly!  notsodumbhillbilly   Jun-12-08 03:44 PM   #24 
  - So what?  Lugnut   Jun-12-08 04:12 PM   #28 
  - You are exactly right - Impeachment would lead to the death of the Republican Party  ThomWV   Jun-12-08 05:38 PM   #32 
  - You won't get any argument from me  magellan   Jun-12-08 05:44 PM   #33 
  - I would love to see it, but you have to ask yourself..  meowomon   Jun-12-08 07:39 PM   #35 
  - They are protecting themselves .Nancy supports the war  az chela   Jun-12-08 08:46 PM   #38 
  - I think this is kind of a slide decision . . . from where she WAS she expected to  defendandprotect   Jun-12-08 08:49 PM   #40 
     - Pelosi announced on national television, *before* she was even seated...  puebloknot   Jun-12-08 09:06 PM   #43 
        - As a female, I find both Pelosi and Reid HUGE disappointments . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 12:13 PM   #73 
           - I agree. Can't we scout around and find *somebody* with integrity...  puebloknot   Jun-14-08 03:51 PM   #106 
  - Well, something changed Pelosi's mind on the war, because immediately AFTER the '06  defendandprotect   Jun-12-08 08:46 PM   #39 
     - Pelosi's interest in prolonging the war may have been that it's Bush's baby  petgoat   Jun-13-08 11:15 AM   #69 
        - When Pelosi + Dems vote to keep the war going after '06, then it's their war . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:54 PM   #88 
  - Bushler is a mass murderer.  Swamp Rat   Jun-12-08 09:09 PM   #44 
  - Justice exists in this instance, or it exists nowhere. For what greater purpose is justice asked to  Skip Intro   Jun-12-08 09:15 PM   #45 
  - Hear, here  RedLetterRev   Jun-13-08 10:41 AM   #65 
  - Impeachment is the only way to guarantee an attack on Iran  dmesg   Jun-12-08 09:20 PM   #46 
  - Yes, Bush would likely wag the dog to:  Zambero   Jun-13-08 09:40 AM   #64 
  - Or stop one n/t  librechik   Jun-13-08 02:24 PM   #93 
  - And While Congress is Investigating, Go Ahead and Elect a  Riverman   Jun-12-08 09:37 PM   #47 
  - Agreed - All Of these Crimes Need To Be Investigated And  lligrd   Jun-12-08 11:39 PM   #49 
  - Let justice be served though the heavens fall  zeos3   Jun-13-08 12:52 AM   #50 
  - Completely Agree!  lisainmilo   Jun-13-08 12:55 AM   #51 
  - And dumb-ass Pelosi what? believes it's the wrong thing to do?  Imagevision   Jun-13-08 12:57 AM   #52 
  - How on earth could investigative hearings hurt the Democrats?  MrSlayer   Jun-13-08 01:33 AM   #53 
  - agree. Send the bums to jail disgraced.  DUlover2909   Jun-13-08 02:42 AM   #57 
  - Amen to that!!  jjr5   Jun-13-08 02:54 AM   #58 
  - here's how the hearings could hurt the democrats  Enrique   Jun-13-08 03:55 AM   #59 
  - Here's how not holding hearings could hurt the Democratic party.  Overseas   Jun-13-08 01:16 PM   #75 
  - good points  librechik   Jun-13-08 01:49 PM   #86 
  - Pure hog swill and party line nonsense...  warren pease   Jun-13-08 05:28 PM   #101 
     - exactly--Congress is practically hogtied now because of the veto&filibuster  librechik   Jun-14-08 03:57 AM   #102 
     - but other people might not think like you  Enrique   Jun-14-08 07:17 AM   #103 
        - If other people thought like me...  warren pease   Jun-14-08 12:02 PM   #105 
  - It doesn't matter  Enthusiast   Jun-13-08 04:16 AM   #60 
  - Great point. Can you just imagine McSame and other 'pukes  lazyriver   Jun-13-08 06:45 AM   #61 
  - Imagine if we don't impeach and we get McCain via another steal . . .????  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:56 PM   #90 
  - You are assuming that the mainstream media would cover it  JPettus   Jun-13-08 07:14 AM   #62 
  - They would spin, but just like Clinton, the people would know better  librechik   Jun-13-08 02:26 PM   #94 
  - 100% in favor of impeachment, However  Nipper1959   Jun-13-08 07:30 AM   #63 
  - AGREE!! HOWEVER - MANY Dems would go down also!  Phred42   Jun-13-08 11:36 AM   #70 
  - Can you be more specific for us all --- ?????  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:58 PM   #91 
  - For Example: Here's Durbin admitting some things  Phred42   Jun-13-08 04:42 PM   #97 
     - Thanks for the info ---  defendandprotect   Jun-15-08 12:52 AM   #109 
  - Let the chips fall where they may (why we need a Special Prosecutor)  librechik   Jun-13-08 04:04 PM   #95 
     - Agree completely - especially about the Step down part.  Phred42   Jun-13-08 04:43 PM   #98 
        - --I just signed the petition--  librechik   Jun-13-08 05:03 PM   #99 
  - K&R I want ALL GUILTY PARTIES TO BE,  Jesuswasntafascist   Jun-13-08 12:09 PM   #72 
  - I think they're doing a good job of destroying themselves right now?  mzmolly   Jun-13-08 01:04 PM   #74 
  - Just revealing how they enabled ENRON and now the OIL INDUSTRY . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:20 PM   #76 
  - K because I can't fucking R it any more.  The Stranger   Jun-13-08 01:55 PM   #89 
  - Recommend --  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:59 PM   #92 
  - An excellent post!  anotheryellowdog   Jun-14-08 08:26 AM   #104 

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