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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:28 PM
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101. Pure hog swill and party line nonsense...
Point by point:

"People could look at them holding hearings and ask themselves, is this what we pay them to do?"

Well yeah. It's generally understood that among their primary responsibilities is the one that compels them to "... support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic." Anything ambiguous about that? So this is exactly what we pay them to do. Not that it usually works out that way, as you can see in the next section.

"Shouldn't our representatives be working on legislation?"

I suppose, but that's soooo 20th Century. Below is their calendar for last Tuesday, the 10th. I would have liked a more current list of unmitigated nonsense but they knocked off early yesterday afternoon and blew off Friday entirely. Fear of Friday the 13th?

Or maybe it's their monthly bribe collection day, that much-anticipated unofficial holiday celebrating unrestrained greed when their real employers, represented by a small army of Gucci Gulch bagmen, descends on capitol hill dispensing large denomination bills with non-sequential serial numbers.

This is also called Getting Your Priorities Straight Day. It would inspire words such as graft, corruption and abuse of the public trust in any civilized country. Here, however, it's called campaign financing. And it's really no big deal because all that money's coming from idealistic donors who want nothing in return except good government.

So here's what they did in the name of good government this past Tuesday:


On Tuesday, the House will meet at 9:00 a.m. for morning hour debate and 10:00 a.m. for legislative business. Wednesday and Thursday, the House will meet at 10:00 a.m. for legislative business. On Friday, no votes are expected in the House.

1) H.Res. 1063 Marking the 225th anniversary of the Treaty of Paris of 1783, which ended the Revolutionary War with the Kingdom of Great Britain and recognized the independence of the United States of America, and acknowledging the shared values and close friendship between the peoples and governments of the United States and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (Rep. Wu Foreign Affairs)

2) H.Res. 1127 Condemning the endemic restrictions on freedom of the press and media and public expression in the Middle East and the concurrent and widespread presence of anti-Semitic material, Holocaust denial, and incitement to violence in the Arab media and press, as amended (Rep. Ackerman Foreign Affairs)

3) H.Con.Res. 318 Supporting the goals and ideals of the International Year of Sanitation (Rep. Payne Foreign Affairs)

4) H.Con.Res. 332 Recognizing the 60th Anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Rep. Fortenberry Foreign Affairs)

5) H.Con.Res. 337 Honoring the Seeds of Peace for its 15th anniversary as an organization (Rep. Allen Foreign Affairs)

6) H.Con.Res. 336 - Honoring the sacrifices and contributions made by disabled American veterans (Rep. Altmire Veterans Affairs)

7) H.Res. 1235 - Expressing support for the designation of National D-Day Remembrance Day, and recognizing the spirit, courage, and sacrifice of the men and women who fought and won World War II (Rep. Scalise Veterans Affairs)

8) H.Res. 1010 - Recognizing the importance of manufactured housing in the United States (Rep. Donnelly Financial Services)

9) S. 682 - Edward William Brooke III Congressional Gold Medal Act (Sen. Kennedy Financial Services)

10) H.Res. 1145 - Recognizing the 100 year anniversary of the establishment of St. Mary's Cooperative Credit Association, the "Bank of the People", and the birth of the American credit union (Rep. SheaPorter Financial Services)

11) S. 254 - To award posthumously a Congressional gold medal to Constantino Brumidi (Sen. Enzi Financial Services)

12) H.R. 3229 - National Infantry Museum and Soldier Center Commemorative Coin Act (Rep. Westmoreland Financial Services)

13) H.R. 2268 - Mother's Day Centennial Commemorative Coin Act (Rep. Capito Financial Services)

14) H.R. 1553 - Conquer Childhood Cancer Act of 2007 (Rep. Pryce - Energy and Commerce)

15) H.Res. 977 - Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that rebate checks would better stimulate the economy if spent on American-made products and services from American-owned companies (Rep. Braley - Energy and Commerce)

16) S. 2146 - To authorize EPA to accept, as part of a settlement, diesel emission reduction Supplemental Environmental Projects. (Sen. Carper - Energy and Commerce)

17) H.Res. 1236 - Expressing the sympathy of the House of Representatives to the citizens of Black Hawk, Buchanan, Butler, and Delaware Counties, Iowa, who were victims of the devastating tornado that struck their communities on May 25, 2008 (Rep. Braley Transportation and Infrastructure)

Personally, I've never really thought much about "recognizing the importance of manufactured housing in the United States." But then I never really think about a lot of truly important stuff. So I'm grateful that the Honorable Joe Donnelly of Indiana, a democrat's democrat, found time to sponsor H. Res. 1010. I'm sure his campaign "donors" in the double-wide biz appreciate his efforts, too.

"Isn't Bush leaving office in 7 months anyway?"

Well, he's supposed to, taking the entire nest of fascist vermin infesting official Washington for the past eight years with him. But then again, he hasn't been too concerned about obeying any other part of the Constitution, so why would the 22nd Amendment be an exception?

If they can't be sure that the fix is in securely enough to assure a McPain victory, why would they want to leave and trust that Obama and a new congress -- hopefully one in which the blue dogs and other reactionaries hiding behind the little "d" after their names are either gone, muzzled or in prison -- wouldn't just decide to have some real fun and go after them with both barrels and a hundred million dollar, multi-level investigation from which they can't even escape the consequences of an unpaid parking ticket?

Why take that chance when a dictatorship is just another false flag op away, blamed of course on Iranian "Islamofascists" assisted by some of those gosh darn domestic terra-ists.

And the results are a vision of heaven on earth for these madmen: another dose of "smart bombs" for Tehran, another million or so civilians crushed or vaporized, and imposition of martial law at home. Blackwater's ready to provide security; the entire legal and physical infrastructure's in place to shut this place down like a bank vault. All that's left is flipping the switch.

Gotta be a mighty tempting option, especially when the scaffold is a real possibility.

"Is every president going to be impeached by the opposition party now?"

I sure hope so. It's way more fun than watching a bunch of decal-coated hot rods make left turns for a couple of hours. And most would probably be acquitted by the Senate anyway. So we'd have the spectacle and the voyeuristic pleasure of watching the "most powerful man in the world" get nailed to the wall every four or eight years. But no harm, no foul for the most part.

Tell me that's not a pricey pay-per-view extravaganza just waiting to happen.

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  -Impeachment hearings would destroy the Republicans librechik  Jun-12-08 01:11 PM   #0 
  - I agree 100% with this.  AndyA   Jun-12-08 01:16 PM   #1 
  - DITTO  debunkthelies   Jun-12-08 09:05 PM   #42 
  - The problem with your rant is this line:  iamahaingttta   Jun-12-08 01:24 PM   #2 
  - so we should lie down and let it happen instead of fighting?  librechik   Jun-12-08 01:32 PM   #3 
  - Damn right...  ColbertWatcher   Jun-12-08 01:52 PM   #9 
  - Of course... I should have added...  iamahaingttta   Jun-12-08 04:18 PM   #29 
     - yes, we need to take it step by step so we are not overwhelmed  librechik   Jun-12-08 05:37 PM   #31 
  - Yep those lying sacks of POOP are not much in the way of an information orgy  truedelphi   Jun-12-08 01:33 PM   #4 
  - Yeah, hearings would expose their complicity,  Raksha   Jun-12-08 03:55 PM   #26 
  - Two reasons I disagree . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-12-08 08:12 PM   #36 
  - THIRD . . . we can see how little the Dem investigations have accomplished . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-12-08 08:42 PM   #37 
  - The clock has not run out. W can be impeached in ONE DAY. He already confessed on TV!  petgoat   Jun-13-08 11:07 AM   #67 
     - One day . . . vs how many days have they been investigating other crimes . . . ???  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:27 PM   #78 
  - Political Impeachment?  petgoat   Jun-13-08 11:05 AM   #66 
  - Logical flawless. The republicans won't get it, but this is exactly  The Wielding Truth   Jun-13-08 12:04 PM   #71 
  - There wouldn't be anything "political" about it --- except to save the nation  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:30 PM   #79 
  - The pukkkes will call anything we do political. Would I call off the search for my lost child  librechik   Jun-13-08 05:09 PM   #100 
  - The other problem with that line...  info being   Jun-13-08 02:36 AM   #56 
  - Agree . . we're expecting the same Democrats who helped Bush destroy the  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:32 PM   #80 
  - "Third World America" . ..? We're pretty much there . . . our infrastructure is failing . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:23 PM   #77 
  - Yes it would, so let the hearings begin  whistle   Jun-12-08 01:40 PM   #5 
  - We should impeach Cheney first  demnan   Jun-12-08 01:50 PM   #6 
  - I don't think we would get that far, so I don't fear Cheney  librechik   Jun-12-08 01:52 PM   #8 
     - A lot of the Cheney/Bush crimes are also hooked into the Pentagon/Intelligence MIIC . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:36 PM   #81 
  - What librechik said K R & Fuckin A right  Vincardog   Jun-12-08 01:52 PM   #7 
  - There is a presidential election every four years.  sharesunited   Jun-12-08 01:53 PM   #10 
  - for the majority here  temperancedissent   Jun-12-08 02:05 PM   #14 
  - You seem to think it helps the Dems in November. No a thousand times no.  sharesunited   Jun-12-08 02:08 PM   #16 
  - as a matter of fact i do think it will help  temperancedissent   Jun-12-08 02:11 PM   #17 
  - how?  librechik   Jun-12-08 03:33 PM   #19 
  - It exposes the crooks and their crimes of course.  chknltl   Jun-12-08 06:55 PM   #34 
     - yes indeed  librechik   Jun-12-08 10:45 PM   #48 
     - I agree with your reasoning and I'm rooting for impeachment . . . however . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:47 PM   #84 
        - PS: Anyone see anyone investigating the phony/corrupt Drug War????  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:48 PM   #85 
  - Yes, a thousand times YES!!!!  Raksha   Jun-12-08 03:41 PM   #23 
  - I agree . . . otherwise, we're saying, "don't worry the criminals are leaving in a short while" . .?  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:43 PM   #83 
  - Impeachment is the remedy for high crimes.  librechik   Jun-12-08 02:12 PM   #18 
  - And they've stolen those elections in 2000, 2002, 2004.....  puebloknot   Jun-12-08 08:58 PM   #41 
  - They've been stealing elections with computer counting . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:52 PM   #87 
     - "They weren't going to that much trouble..."  puebloknot   Jun-14-08 04:03 PM   #107 
        - Agree with you . . . sadly . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-15-08 12:49 AM   #108 
           - Haven't followed those links yet, but will. Busy, busy right now! nt  puebloknot   Jun-15-08 01:52 AM   #110 
  - Impeachment is a necessary remedy to trampling of the Constitution  petgoat   Jun-13-08 11:10 AM   #68 
  - Yes . . . perhaps in name only, however . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:41 PM   #82 
  - You're preaching to the preacher here.  Joe Fields   Jun-12-08 01:57 PM   #11 
  - Damn right. K&R  dicksteele   Jun-12-08 01:59 PM   #12 
  - Just imagine that!  lonestarnot   Jun-12-08 02:00 PM   #13 
  - Golly, and ya wonder why so many are against it?  Echo In Light   Jun-12-08 02:06 PM   #15 
  - There are always a lot of fools and cowards, Echo In Light.  JDPriestly   Jun-13-08 02:24 AM   #54 
     - Agreed. Lack of action sends a loud message to the world, and future admins  Echo In Light   Jun-13-08 04:08 PM   #96 
  - And so it should destroy them.  Cleita   Jun-12-08 03:36 PM   #20 
  - I've been saying this for MONTHS!!!  Raksha   Jun-12-08 03:38 PM   #21 
  - Even if there's no time to actually impeach  Jack Rabbit   Jun-12-08 03:38 PM   #22 
  - technically, impeachment can continue past the end of the administration  librechik   Jun-12-08 03:47 PM   #25 
     - There's no pressure?  Jack Rabbit   Jun-12-08 04:00 PM   #27 
     - oh, yes yes! I meant statute wise, he is not constrained  librechik   Jun-12-08 05:36 PM   #30 
     - It should be begun during the officer's tenure -- so it should begin  JDPriestly   Jun-13-08 02:28 AM   #55 
  - Exactly!  notsodumbhillbilly   Jun-12-08 03:44 PM   #24 
  - So what?  Lugnut   Jun-12-08 04:12 PM   #28 
  - You are exactly right - Impeachment would lead to the death of the Republican Party  ThomWV   Jun-12-08 05:38 PM   #32 
  - You won't get any argument from me  magellan   Jun-12-08 05:44 PM   #33 
  - I would love to see it, but you have to ask yourself..  meowomon   Jun-12-08 07:39 PM   #35 
  - They are protecting themselves .Nancy supports the war  az chela   Jun-12-08 08:46 PM   #38 
  - I think this is kind of a slide decision . . . from where she WAS she expected to  defendandprotect   Jun-12-08 08:49 PM   #40 
     - Pelosi announced on national television, *before* she was even seated...  puebloknot   Jun-12-08 09:06 PM   #43 
        - As a female, I find both Pelosi and Reid HUGE disappointments . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 12:13 PM   #73 
           - I agree. Can't we scout around and find *somebody* with integrity...  puebloknot   Jun-14-08 03:51 PM   #106 
  - Well, something changed Pelosi's mind on the war, because immediately AFTER the '06  defendandprotect   Jun-12-08 08:46 PM   #39 
     - Pelosi's interest in prolonging the war may have been that it's Bush's baby  petgoat   Jun-13-08 11:15 AM   #69 
        - When Pelosi + Dems vote to keep the war going after '06, then it's their war . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:54 PM   #88 
  - Bushler is a mass murderer.  Swamp Rat   Jun-12-08 09:09 PM   #44 
  - Justice exists in this instance, or it exists nowhere. For what greater purpose is justice asked to  Skip Intro   Jun-12-08 09:15 PM   #45 
  - Hear, here  RedLetterRev   Jun-13-08 10:41 AM   #65 
  - Impeachment is the only way to guarantee an attack on Iran  dmesg   Jun-12-08 09:20 PM   #46 
  - Yes, Bush would likely wag the dog to:  Zambero   Jun-13-08 09:40 AM   #64 
  - Or stop one n/t  librechik   Jun-13-08 02:24 PM   #93 
  - And While Congress is Investigating, Go Ahead and Elect a  Riverman   Jun-12-08 09:37 PM   #47 
  - Agreed - All Of these Crimes Need To Be Investigated And  lligrd   Jun-12-08 11:39 PM   #49 
  - Let justice be served though the heavens fall  zeos3   Jun-13-08 12:52 AM   #50 
  - Completely Agree!  lisainmilo   Jun-13-08 12:55 AM   #51 
  - And dumb-ass Pelosi what? believes it's the wrong thing to do?  Imagevision   Jun-13-08 12:57 AM   #52 
  - How on earth could investigative hearings hurt the Democrats?  MrSlayer   Jun-13-08 01:33 AM   #53 
  - agree. Send the bums to jail disgraced.  DUlover2909   Jun-13-08 02:42 AM   #57 
  - Amen to that!!  jjr5   Jun-13-08 02:54 AM   #58 
  - here's how the hearings could hurt the democrats  Enrique   Jun-13-08 03:55 AM   #59 
  - Here's how not holding hearings could hurt the Democratic party.  Overseas   Jun-13-08 01:16 PM   #75 
  - good points  librechik   Jun-13-08 01:49 PM   #86 
  - Pure hog swill and party line nonsense...  warren pease   Jun-13-08 05:28 PM   #101 
     - exactly--Congress is practically hogtied now because of the veto&filibuster  librechik   Jun-14-08 03:57 AM   #102 
     - but other people might not think like you  Enrique   Jun-14-08 07:17 AM   #103 
        - If other people thought like me...  warren pease   Jun-14-08 12:02 PM   #105 
  - It doesn't matter  Enthusiast   Jun-13-08 04:16 AM   #60 
  - Great point. Can you just imagine McSame and other 'pukes  lazyriver   Jun-13-08 06:45 AM   #61 
  - Imagine if we don't impeach and we get McCain via another steal . . .????  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:56 PM   #90 
  - You are assuming that the mainstream media would cover it  JPettus   Jun-13-08 07:14 AM   #62 
  - They would spin, but just like Clinton, the people would know better  librechik   Jun-13-08 02:26 PM   #94 
  - 100% in favor of impeachment, However  Nipper1959   Jun-13-08 07:30 AM   #63 
  - AGREE!! HOWEVER - MANY Dems would go down also!  Phred42   Jun-13-08 11:36 AM   #70 
  - Can you be more specific for us all --- ?????  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:58 PM   #91 
  - For Example: Here's Durbin admitting some things  Phred42   Jun-13-08 04:42 PM   #97 
     - Thanks for the info ---  defendandprotect   Jun-15-08 12:52 AM   #109 
  - Let the chips fall where they may (why we need a Special Prosecutor)  librechik   Jun-13-08 04:04 PM   #95 
     - Agree completely - especially about the Step down part.  Phred42   Jun-13-08 04:43 PM   #98 
        - --I just signed the petition--  librechik   Jun-13-08 05:03 PM   #99 
  - K&R I want ALL GUILTY PARTIES TO BE,  Jesuswasntafascist   Jun-13-08 12:09 PM   #72 
  - I think they're doing a good job of destroying themselves right now?  mzmolly   Jun-13-08 01:04 PM   #74 
  - Just revealing how they enabled ENRON and now the OIL INDUSTRY . . .  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:20 PM   #76 
  - K because I can't fucking R it any more.  The Stranger   Jun-13-08 01:55 PM   #89 
  - Recommend --  defendandprotect   Jun-13-08 01:59 PM   #92 
  - An excellent post!  anotheryellowdog   Jun-14-08 08:26 AM   #104 

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