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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 03:30 PM
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40. Biden - what should be next steps - if Bush epiphany or in new admin.
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  -SFRC hearing Thurs 2:30p on Oil, Oligarchs, and Opportunity incl. Z. Brzezinski JoeIsOneOfUs  Jun-11-08 03:35 PM   #0 
  - 5 minute warning bump...  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 01:25 PM   #1 
  - Brzezinski speaking first (before opening statements due to 3pm floor vote)  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 01:35 PM   #2 
  - Biden ? - how does current Russian govmt view issues of greater access to non-Russian Asian oil  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 01:47 PM   #3 
  - discussing that U.S. and E.U. not working together on oil supply issues  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 01:52 PM   #4 
  - Lugar - describing his recent trip to central Asia, impressions.  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 01:54 PM   #5 
  - Zb - exec. branch has been less interested and effective than senators, others  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 01:58 PM   #6 
     - Lugar - who should be taking lead on this? ZB - president, SecOfState, multiple Depts.  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:00 PM   #7 
  - Nelson (FL) showing map of Russian control of petrol. in Europe  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:01 PM   #8 
  - ZB - Russia will be tempted to use energy as political tool. Iran will not always be hostile to us.  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:02 PM   #9 
  - Could Putins title change to Czar? ZB - interesting quip of titles and real power. nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:04 PM   #10 
  - Lugar - general ? and followup on Iran - need to think for broad future, not separate countries  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:06 PM   #11 
  - ZB - present character of Iranian regime is transitional - young people want change  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:07 PM   #12 
     - at one time, had a GOOD relationship with Israel. If we're intelligent about it, will in future  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:08 PM   #13 
  - Biden - what would be consequences of military confrontation with Iran (from U.S. or Israel)  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:10 PM   #14 
  - ZB - short-term would destabilize our election process - rational national choice more difficult  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:13 PM   #15 
     - Thanks for this --  gateley   Jun-12-08 02:17 PM   #16 
     - Yes  mtf80123   Jun-12-08 02:18 PM   #17 
        - BIG warning there - I was listening not watching but wondering about his facial expression  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:22 PM   #18 
     - Thanks  seemslikeadream   Jun-12-08 02:43 PM   #26 
  - heard Nelson, Biden, Lugar, Hagel vote already so expect they'll be back soon - wonder if Kerry  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:23 PM   #19 
  - Before next panel comes up, Hudson Institute is conservative, right?  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:31 PM   #20 
  - Recess over, back from vote, Biden introducing next panel, Lugar stopped by press in elevator  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:34 PM   #21 
  - Biden - big ? = how can we form common western reponse to power of energy exporters  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:38 PM   #22 
  - LF - was asked to provide info on Clinton-Gore admin perspective plus future  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:40 PM   #23 
  - post-Soviet collapse era - strong collaboration led by Gore, others  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:43 PM   #25 
     - warnings of geostrategic power potential of Russia and Iran back then; US lacking specialists then  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:46 PM   #28 
        - lots of detail on US policy on pipelines from Caspian, other regional political strategy  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:48 PM   #29 
  - damn I just tuned it  seemslikeadream   Jun-12-08 02:41 PM   #24 
  - tried to hit some highlights - they usually get video archive up next day  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:44 PM   #27 
     - This is the first time I have watch on my real player and it says I can record it  seemslikeadream   Jun-12-08 02:50 PM   #30 
        - cool, though ZB's remarks earlier on Iran -> Election were kind of important! nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:51 PM   #31 
  - LF - Future: organization behind policy determines success - Clinton-Gore one was good  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:55 PM   #32 
  - US govmt has lost its focus - our poltical independence depends on our econ. indep.  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 02:59 PM   #33 
  - Baran up now  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 03:01 PM   #34 
  - discussing maps, monopolies  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 03:02 PM   #35 
  - RK - on Russian economic schemes, organized crime  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 03:13 PM   #36 
  - Biden - how much gas to fill Nabuko (sp?) pipeline to be economically feasible?  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 03:21 PM   #37 
  - GE, Bechtel, Shell mentioned as part of consortium in past  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 03:28 PM   #38 
  - more discussion of U.S. role in politics of this under Clinton/Gore  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 03:29 PM   #39 
     - Biden - what should be next steps - if Bush epiphany or in new admin.  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 03:30 PM   #40 
        - then they say, well, let's just skip to new admin :-)  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 03:30 PM   #41 
           - Biden - poll of Americans last yr - 70% chose energy > Iraq as security issue  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 03:33 PM   #42 
  - more difficult now than in 90s - stronger links to even food prices  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 03:39 PM   #43 
  - delete  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 03:41 PM   #44 
  - Biden - what's diff between organized crime vs. Putin etc. leadership in Russia  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 03:41 PM   #45 
  - Biden - this committee will have little influence on rest of Bush admin  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jun-12-08 03:45 PM   #46 
 

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