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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 10:04 PM
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18. I think maybe I don't get "progressive" values.
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 10:22 PM by lwfern
Is it really about mocking people over physical flaws?

I just ... I dunno, I don't even see that as a flaw, unless it interferes with his life in some way. My dad had to have surgery for his eye, because it got to the point where the droopy lid interfered with some of his vision.

It just didn't occur to me that grown adults would be pointing fingers at people like my father, calling him popeye or lumpy, or stuff like that.

This is part of the reason I don't hang out on DU too much anymore, and when I do, it's often in the gardening forum. Sometimes it's incredibly discouraging to see the level of hate that people hold for anyone that doesn't act, look, speak just right, for people that live with their parents or are homeless, or live in trailers, or have a thick waist or wear the "wrong" fabric in a dress, or have sex or don't, or couldn't afford plastic surgery, or maybe could afford it but didn't want cosmetic surgery - or for people who do have plastic surgery.

Mostly I hang out on a far left site where there's an honest love of humanity, and acceptance of people in their own skin. I think it's why I have so much respect and love for my mentors within VFP, because they get what that is, and when they have anger, it's generally aimed at the right target for the right reasons. I'm not sure how to say that right. But I know that when I read DU, I don't feel any particular caring for humanity - in all our humanness. I just see a different flavor of hate than what's on the right. I don't understand what that comes from, or why it's here.

I'm not talking about embracing people with fucked up policies, I can hate on McCain along with the best of them. But hating on people, whoever they are, because their face isn't perfectly symmetrical, or making fun of people because they had cancer surgery, I have a hard time getting that.
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  -Why is John McCain's right eye always so much more open than his left eye? Leo 9  Jun-10-08 08:19 PM   #0 
  - It's probably his puffy left cheek  LisaM   Jun-10-08 08:20 PM   #1 
  - Forest Whitaker syndrome?  Starbucks Anarchist   Jun-10-08 08:20 PM   #2 
  - I was wondering about that?  Blue_Roses   Jun-11-08 11:50 AM   #33 
     - It's called ptosis.  Starbucks Anarchist   Jun-11-08 12:28 PM   #49 
  - He's had a bit of surgery to the left of his left eye  BrotherBuzz   Jun-10-08 08:21 PM   #3 
  - I think it stems from the melanoma skin cancer that he had... Just my guess! n/t  LakeSamish706   Jun-10-08 08:22 PM   #4 
  - Probably due to surgical scars; he had surgery on the left side  grannylib   Jun-10-08 08:22 PM   #5 
  - You can really see how the scar shifts his face in this picture of him and Cindy with Jack Abramoff.  Leo 9   Jun-10-08 08:34 PM   #9 
     - Perfect depiction! LOL  southerncrone   Jun-10-08 08:40 PM   #12 
  - Melanoma surgery  dmesg   Jun-10-08 08:23 PM   #6 
  - surgery...scar tissue pulls on eye  Acadia Blue   Jun-10-08 08:26 PM   #7 
  - toothpicks  Gilligan   Jun-10-08 08:28 PM   #8 
  - I have the same problem.  Cleita   Jun-10-08 08:37 PM   #10 
  - He's lumpy. Lumpy McSame.  lonestarnot   Jun-10-08 08:37 PM   #11 
  - Could be  southerncrone   Jun-10-08 08:44 PM   #13 
  - cover over half his face - what do you see?  C_U_L8R   Jun-10-08 08:53 PM   #14 
  - Ok since we're talking about McCain's body, I have a question.  OhGodNotAgain   Jun-10-08 09:12 PM   #15 
  - His arms were broken when he was taken prisoner  rox63   Jun-11-08 11:45 AM   #29 
  - I believe his arms were broken when bailing out.  tuckessee   Jun-11-08 12:12 PM   #43 
  - I believe that it is from the POW experiences  libodem   Jun-11-08 11:48 AM   #31 
     - That's what I thought.  OhGodNotAgain   Jun-11-08 09:05 PM   #55 
  - It might just be genetic.  lwfern   Jun-10-08 09:14 PM   #16 
  - Well I hate those fucking yellow corn kernel teeth and FU too!  lonestarnot   Jun-10-08 09:19 PM   #17 
  - I think maybe I don't get "progressive" values.  lwfern   Jun-10-08 10:04 PM   #18 
     - Thank you; I agree that this thread took a disturbing twist  grannylib   Jun-10-08 10:09 PM   #19 
     - I hate his policies first and foremost, I hate him secondly, and thirdly I hate his fucking  lonestarnot   Jun-11-08 09:42 AM   #22 
     - I'm just asking you to consider collateral damage.  lwfern   Jun-11-08 11:12 AM   #24 
        - Well gee, I had no idea that the weight of everyone's personal cosmetics were on me for my personal  lonestarnot   Jun-11-08 11:33 AM   #26 
        - No, and if you made one racist remark  lwfern   Jun-11-08 11:57 AM   #37 
           - Peace and put me on ignore, because anything that rubs me wrong about McSame, is something  lonestarnot   Jun-11-08 05:28 PM   #53 
        - Well put, we're supposed to be the caring ones  FatherTime1408   Jun-11-08 12:04 PM   #40 
           - Go lovey dovey up to that bastard some place else.  lonestarnot   Jun-11-08 05:29 PM   #54 
     - It's only a few I think  Sundoggy   Jun-11-08 11:54 AM   #35 
     - I remember that thread.  lwfern   Jun-11-08 12:17 PM   #46 
     - True, it's the ideology not the individual that most needs attacking, however  Leo 9   Jun-12-08 04:41 PM   #56 
  - I have the same problem too.  Sentinel Chicken   Jun-11-08 12:01 PM   #39 
  - hes half asleep  historian   Jun-10-08 11:09 PM   #20 
  - he's old, old, old....  unkachuck   Jun-10-08 11:16 PM   #21 
  - I always thought that  subliminable   Jun-11-08 09:51 AM   #23 
  - He's afraid to look to the left...  Sundoggy   Jun-11-08 11:29 AM   #25 
  - Now THAT's actually quite funny!  FatherTime1408   Jun-11-08 12:05 PM   #41 
  - His face is not perfectly symmetrical. Obviously grounds for impeachment.  Bucky   Jun-11-08 11:35 AM   #27 
  - Could be the same reason mine is...a sucker punch  wvbygod   Jun-11-08 11:42 AM   #28 
  - It seems to be getting worse.  Kristi1696   Jun-11-08 11:47 AM   #30 
  - My left eye does that too.  Throd   Jun-11-08 11:48 AM   #32 
  - 100% agreement here  northernsoul   Jun-11-08 12:15 PM   #45 
  - Left brain dominance. Obama is right brain dominant.  Wizard777   Jun-11-08 11:52 AM   #34 
  - He blinks a lot, especially when he's lying - I call him "Blinky"  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jun-11-08 11:55 AM   #36 
  - He has alot of permanent injuries from his days of being tortured as a POW  Marrah_G   Jun-11-08 11:59 AM   #38 
  - Agreed  northernsoul   Jun-11-08 12:14 PM   #44 
  - Jeez that comic is in horrible shape.  tuckessee   Jun-11-08 12:10 PM   #42 
  - His wife, Cindy, is right-handed.  TahitiNut   Jun-11-08 12:17 PM   #47 
  - I heard that he keeps his eye closed a little because it's trying to escape! n/t  weezy2736   Jun-11-08 12:19 PM   #48 
  - you notice that the corporate MSM just focuses on his  alyce douglas   Jun-11-08 12:40 PM   #50 
  - Probably residual nerve damage from the surgery on his face  SoCalDem   Jun-11-08 12:45 PM   #51 
  - borg implant  dembotoz   Jun-11-08 12:50 PM   #52 
  - ha ha haaaaaa  Blaze Diem   Jun-16-08 02:18 PM   #62 
  - Probably because he only ever considers the Right-wing side of issues!  LeftishBrit   Jun-12-08 05:00 PM   #57 
  - His campaign seems to only want to show or light his right side in their ads.  Leo 9   Jun-16-08 01:07 PM   #59 
  - if you look closely, you will see most people's faces are asymmetrical  eShirl   Jun-12-08 05:06 PM   #58 
  - They looked the same in 1974  kskiska   Jun-16-08 01:57 PM   #60 
  - "You just can't hide that lying eye"  Blaze Diem   Jun-16-08 02:16 PM   #61 
     - One Face: McCain likes to show his healthy side  Leo 9   Jun-16-08 02:33 PM   #63 
        - He's being prepped and propped up for the viewing audience, just like Bush was  Blaze Diem   Jun-16-08 02:54 PM   #64 

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