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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:34 AM
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99. I agree. But here's the thing and the reason why we are in
the pickles we are in: The 2008 Vibe is the last year model, for 09', they changed it, made it uglier and puta BIGGER ENGINE in the damn thing, thereby reducing the mileage!!! I couldn't believe it!! When we were at the dealer's looking at them I said to the guy: Boy, you guys really can't take a hint, can you?
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  -S.U.V's are going......going......gone! matt007  Jun-04-08 02:39 AM   #0 
  - May they rust in peace.  Crunchy Frog   Jun-04-08 02:43 AM   #1 
  - rust in pieces  KitchenWitch   Jun-04-08 02:44 AM   #2 
  - Will the Volt ever come?  KSCFAN   Jun-04-08 09:15 PM   #89 
  - All fuel hogs will be passe soon enough,,,,The STARES should do it...  opihimoimoi   Jun-04-08 02:45 AM   #3 
  - Nissan is dropping theirs  matt007   Jun-04-08 02:49 AM   #4 
  - OK, so I've never owned an SUV, but I did some research on fuel effiency, and  funflower   Jun-04-08 03:20 AM   #5 
  - Don't Confuse Anyone With Facts n/t  Raejeanowl   Jun-04-08 03:42 AM   #6 
  - Or spoil one of the favorite pastimes on DU. SUV owner bashing!  Blue State Native   Jun-04-08 08:58 AM   #35 
  - Not to mention high performance cars like the Audi, Lexus, BMW and Mercedes  notadmblnd   Jun-04-08 05:27 AM   #19 
  - Our Audi A8 routinely gets 29 MPG on the highway.  Tesha   Jun-04-08 08:08 AM   #23 
  - Whatever you say  notadmblnd   Jun-04-08 11:38 AM   #49 
  - The fact behind the better fuel milage of that R8 is...  CRF450   Jun-04-08 04:20 PM   #70 
     - As I was saying, the milage is not that much different  notadmblnd   Jun-04-08 06:58 PM   #85 
        - Are you going strictly by what the EPA rating say?  CRF450   Jun-04-08 09:53 PM   #90 
           - who's SUV are you comparing?  notadmblnd   Jun-05-08 11:44 AM   #102 
              - Its just that you made it out like sports cars cant get anymore than 16mpg  CRF450   Jun-05-08 12:12 PM   #103 
                 - No, this is what I said  notadmblnd   Jun-05-08 12:27 PM   #105 
  - My 4x4 gets 32mpg  JCMach1   Jun-04-08 11:41 AM   #50 
     - Make? Model? (NT)  Tesha   Jun-04-08 12:28 PM   #59 
     - :rofl:  lonestarnot   Jun-04-08 09:55 PM   #91 
  - Um bullshit, most of them get much better fuel milage now.  CRF450   Jun-04-08 08:57 AM   #34 
  - What year? I am not kidding  nadinbrzezinski   Jun-04-08 02:03 PM   #65 
     - post number 49, current model year  notadmblnd   Jun-04-08 02:16 PM   #68 
     - Bit too simplified.......  physioex   Jun-04-08 05:46 PM   #83 
  - I have owned minivans for 15 years and I also had a durango  Midlodemocrat   Jun-04-08 07:58 AM   #21 
  - Our Dodge Grand Caravan minivan routinely gets 25-ish MPG on the highway...  Tesha   Jun-04-08 08:10 AM   #24 
  - Mine, too. I now drive a Town and Country, but had a Caravan for  Midlodemocrat   Jun-04-08 08:14 AM   #27 
  - It also works great for Bunco Fight Nights!!1!!  madinmaryland   Jun-04-08 08:52 AM   #32 
     - Yes it does.  Midlodemocrat   Jun-04-08 08:56 AM   #33 
  - We do ~ 550 km on ~65l per fill up, combined city and highway...  SidDithers   Jun-04-08 08:48 AM   #31 
  - Honda Odyssey minivan vs. Honda Pilot SUV:  benEzra   Jun-04-08 11:09 AM   #42 
  - Of ocurse, most vehicles that are properly called SUVs...  Tesha   Jun-04-08 12:26 PM   #57 
  - The thing is, the majority of vehicles classed as SUV's are unibody.  benEzra   Jun-04-08 01:02 PM   #61 
  - Perhaps "the majority of Vehicles *MARKETED* as SUVs" but not "classified" as SUVs. (NT)  Tesha   Jun-04-08 01:10 PM   #62 
     - What else would you call a Honda CR-V or Ford Escape?  benEzra   Jun-04-08 02:05 PM   #66 
        - They are known as "crossover" vehicles or "CUVs".  Tesha   Jun-04-08 02:08 PM   #67 
        - I've owned a Plymouth Vibe for four years. It is the twin car  JeanGrey   Jun-05-08 09:23 AM   #94 
           - Most definitely.  benEzra   Jun-05-08 10:06 AM   #98 
              - I agree. But here's the thing and the reason why we are in  JeanGrey   Jun-05-08 10:34 AM   #99 
                 - The 2008 and 2009 Vibe have the same 1.8L engine.  benEzra   Jun-05-08 10:47 AM   #100 
                    - That is NOT what the dealer told us. Every single Vibe for 09  JeanGrey   Jun-05-08 12:17 PM   #104 
                       - He probably just stocked the more expensive 2.4L's to make more money...  benEzra   Jun-05-08 01:05 PM   #106 
                          - Thank you so much for this information! Obviously, he did  JeanGrey   Jun-05-08 03:28 PM   #107 
  - I think they call them SUV because insurance companies can rake in more dough  Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel   Jun-08-08 07:49 AM   #118 
  - My 2007 Odyssey window sticker says 19/26, and I get 27 on the highway  herbster   Jun-04-08 04:40 PM   #76 
     - Most cars beat their EPA Highway ratings by a fair amount...  benEzra   Jun-05-08 09:06 AM   #92 
  - My Jeep Grand Cherokee gets 23 - 25 mpg on the interstate...  Ghost in the Machine   Jun-04-08 11:10 AM   #43 
     - I think your math is flawed  matt007   Jun-04-08 04:36 PM   #73 
        - Fortunately (for me) I don't really give a damn what you *think*...  Ghost in the Machine   Jun-04-08 04:47 PM   #80 
  - Thats just crazy, I have a Dodge Dakota (same thing as the Durango)  CRF450   Jun-04-08 08:59 AM   #36 
  - It's sickening how little mpg cars are getting.  Rosemary2205   Jun-04-08 08:25 AM   #29 
  - A 20% increase in highway mileage isn't much better?  NoGOPZone   Jun-04-08 10:37 AM   #41 
  - V6 minivan vs. comparable V6 SUV, EPA mileage figures:  benEzra   Jun-04-08 11:12 AM   #44 
     - Toyota had this minivan available in Japan  Bill219   Jun-04-08 11:31 AM   #48 
     - That doesn't answer my question  NoGOPZone   Jun-04-08 12:19 PM   #56 
     - Yes, twenty percent is a significant difference in mileage.  Tesha   Jun-04-08 12:28 PM   #58 
     - Yes, 20 percent is significant. But most minivans are no better than comparable SUV's.  benEzra   Jun-04-08 01:11 PM   #63 
     - Both of those are disappointing for honda  matt007   Jun-04-08 04:35 PM   #72 
        - Deluxe versions of the Odyssey do better  NoGOPZone   Jun-04-08 05:40 PM   #82 
           - A Pilot with the same upgrades would probably see similar improvement,  benEzra   Jun-05-08 09:11 AM   #93 
              - I'm not so sure about the Cd  NoGOPZone   Jun-05-08 11:07 AM   #101 
                 - Equipped the same as the Odyssey, the Pilot's EPA Combined mileage is the same, 18mpg...  benEzra   Jun-05-08 06:01 PM   #108 
                    - If you want to keep bringing up the Pilot and the Odyssey  NoGOPZone   Jun-06-08 12:01 PM   #109 
                       - Those figures appear to be for the non-VCM Pilot. According to Honda, the Pilot equipped with VCM  benEzra   Jun-06-08 09:38 PM   #112 
                          - Those mileage figures are for the OLD method of calculation  NoGOPZone   Jun-07-08 11:26 AM   #113 
                             - According to the EPA (possibly wrong), the 2007 Pilot didn't have VCM, and not all Odysseys did.  benEzra   Jun-07-08 08:14 PM   #114 
                                - Not a bad looking car.  CRF450   Jun-07-08 08:41 PM   #115 
                                   - I like the G8 a lot, but you can't get the manual transmission with the V6, only the 6.2L V8 (darn).  benEzra   Jun-07-08 10:12 PM   #116 
                                      - I would think that the v8 would be pretty close to the v6's fuel milage  CRF450   Jun-08-08 05:36 AM   #117 
  - It's all in how you use 'em.  Orsino   Jun-04-08 01:59 PM   #64 
  - "Good mileage" is SO relative  Terry in Austin   Jun-04-08 03:44 PM   #69 
  - my minivan  shanti   Jun-04-08 09:02 PM   #88 
  - closing plants. laying off thousands of workers. i thought: too bad  orleans   Jun-04-08 03:47 AM   #7 
  - Meanwhile they sell high MPG models overseas  matt007   Jun-04-08 04:39 PM   #75 
  - Why though?  alwysdrunk   Jun-04-08 03:51 AM   #8 
  - YES!!! Anyone owning an SUV should be run over by said vehicle.  Breeze54   Jun-04-08 04:01 AM   #10 
  - By definition (that is, physics), an SUV cannot be as fuel-effiecient as a car.  Tesha   Jun-04-08 08:13 AM   #26 
     - bullshit. there are plenty of suv's that are more fuel-efficient than MANY cars.  QuestionAll   Jun-05-08 09:33 AM   #97 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-04-08 03:58 AM   #9 
  - We need new jobs and new SUVs  Lorien   Jun-04-08 08:11 AM   #25 
  - You could say the same about the UAW if this keeps up. nt  mvccd1000   Jun-04-08 04:05 AM   #11 
  - The problem is  Horse with no Name   Jun-04-08 04:05 AM   #12 
  - There will be some of that....  mvccd1000   Jun-04-08 04:13 AM   #13 
  - My son just picked up a 1990 Honda civic with 200,000 miles on  JeanGrey   Jun-05-08 09:28 AM   #95 
  - Not a moment too soon. I hate those fucking things.  HughBeaumont   Jun-04-08 04:20 AM   #14 
  - The reverse is also true  Mr. Blonde   Jun-04-08 08:30 AM   #30 
  - So tell me again why high gas prices are bad??  Electric Flag   Jun-04-08 05:03 AM   #15 
  - Because of the disproportionate effect on low-income families  TommyO   Jun-04-08 05:08 AM   #16 
     - nooooo!!!!  Maine-ah   Jun-04-08 09:38 AM   #40 
  - NOOO  Wabbajack_   Jun-04-08 05:13 AM   #17 
  - LOL  bigscott   Jun-04-08 05:17 AM   #18 
  - You still can.  Tesha   Jun-04-08 08:16 AM   #28 
  - It will be so much easier to find my car in the parking lot now  logosoco   Jun-04-08 07:53 AM   #20 
  - lol!!!! I can relate!!!! My area is awash in SUVs and I have a little Integra and parking lots  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jun-04-08 09:01 AM   #37 
  - I have a Vibe that is ORANGE. Easiest car to locate I  JeanGrey   Jun-05-08 09:31 AM   #96 
  - thank goodness.  alyce douglas   Jun-04-08 08:04 AM   #22 
  - I don't have the SUV rage, I guess.  flvegan   Jun-04-08 09:21 AM   #38 
  - They were always around for people who needed them  LeftyMom   Jun-06-08 12:24 PM   #111 
  - Yesteray over at the local middle school I spotted a  LibDemAlways   Jun-04-08 09:24 AM   #39 
  - Our regular in Alaska is $4.60  MartyL   Jun-04-08 11:16 AM   #45 
  - The average car is 1000 lbs heavier than in 1985  Fumesucker   Jun-04-08 11:55 AM   #53 
  - The SUVs are not the problem  MartyL   Jun-04-08 11:17 AM   #46 
     - Maybe we should stop buying what the oil companies are selling  taterguy   Jun-04-08 04:46 PM   #78 
  - The SUV does have some practical uses believe it or not  DefenseLawyer   Jun-04-08 11:26 AM   #47 
  - My Diesel Hyundai 4x4 gets 32mpg and gets me across the sand when I need to.  JCMach1   Jun-04-08 11:44 AM   #51 
  - How much cargo will it haul?  DefenseLawyer   Jun-04-08 11:53 AM   #52 
     - Almost a twin of a Toyota Landcruiser  JCMach1   Jun-04-08 11:59 AM   #54 
        - Ain't that a kick in the head?  DefenseLawyer   Jun-04-08 12:07 PM   #55 
        - My Land Cruiser gets 17mpg on the highway.  herbster   Jun-04-08 04:44 PM   #77 
  - Many places in Europe get extremely cold  matt007   Jun-04-08 04:34 PM   #71 
     - Keep living your own life  DefenseLawyer   Jun-04-08 05:34 PM   #81 
  - Sadly, In LA, probably 40% of the private vehicles on the road are still  kestrel91316   Jun-04-08 12:32 PM   #60 
  - 45 mpg average is what I'm getting :)  snooper2   Jun-04-08 04:39 PM   #74 
  - Plus it's really easy to drain their gas tanks and steal their catalytic converters  KamaAina   Jun-04-08 04:47 PM   #79 
  - The nice thing is they actually spared closing a plant in Flint.  sarcasmo   Jun-04-08 06:20 PM   #84 
  - Yea!!!!!!!!!!  Xenotime   Jun-04-08 07:49 PM   #86 
  - Instead of speed limit we need a Momentum Limit.  KSCFAN   Jun-04-08 08:56 PM   #87 
  - SUVs probably aren't going away, just changing. Like this one:  LibInTexas   Jun-06-08 12:09 PM   #110 

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