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Mon May-26-08 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #29 |
| 41. So what kind of mental giant are you? |
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You are an advocate for civil war? Maybe you could join up and take the first bullet.
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| -Great Lakes fending off horde of sippers in 'water war' |
NNN0LHI |
May-26-08 07:00 PM |
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I LOVE what passes for a water war in this country. |
otherlander |
May-26-08 07:04 PM |
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Yeah, you live in Arizona because it doesn't rain, then you want |
SmokingJacket |
May-26-08 07:05 PM |
#2 |
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I suppose there are all sorts of arguments |
ulysses |
May-26-08 07:05 PM |
#3 |
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I supported Bill Richardson until he said... |
hornblast |
May-26-08 07:10 PM |
#5 |
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What's wrong with sharing water? n/t |
cynatnite |
May-26-08 07:16 PM |
#8 |
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Fossil water. |
NutmegYankee |
May-26-08 07:31 PM |
#11 |
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The Great Lakes' problem is shared by 90% of the world's lakes... |
cynatnite |
May-26-08 07:39 PM |
#14 |
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I don't know about the others, but Lake Michigan |
shraby |
May-26-08 07:47 PM |
#19 |
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The level of Lake Superior hit an all-time low in 2006 |
NNN0LHI |
May-26-08 08:03 PM |
#27 |
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If people want drinking water they can move out of the desert |
malakai2 |
May-26-08 08:17 PM |
#30 |
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My husband and I considering moving our family to southern New Mexico... |
cynatnite |
May-26-08 08:30 PM |
#32 |
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It's a desert. Or didn't you hear? nt |
mycritters2 |
May-26-08 09:04 PM |
#50 |
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Ethiopia obviously can't |
Enthusiast |
May-26-08 09:08 PM |
#55 |
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thanks, that's an excellent point |
Scout |
May-27-08 06:52 AM |
#98 |
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Actually, with modern technology, you can fuck all you want... |
Tesha |
May-27-08 07:19 AM |
#107 |
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Only asshole Republicans did this. |
Enthusiast |
May-26-08 09:16 PM |
#62 |
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I live in western South Dakota |
malakai2 |
May-26-08 09:26 PM |
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malakai2, that was one excellent post. |
Enthusiast |
May-26-08 09:48 PM |
#79 |
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Don't forget to mention all those golf courses, pools and green lawns they want |
kineta |
May-28-08 11:00 AM |
#127 |
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I live in northern SD, and moved to SD from OH |
liberalhistorian |
May-29-08 10:39 PM |
#148 |
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But you are choosing to move to an area you know has little water. |
Marrah_G |
May-27-08 07:18 AM |
#106 |
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That's a thoughtful anaysis, thanks |
Canuckistanian |
May-26-08 09:13 PM |
#60 |
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Are there any fully independent and self-sufficient locales in the United States? |
LanternWaste |
May-30-08 10:45 AM |
#153 |
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Drinking water? |
Enthusiast |
May-26-08 08:49 PM |
#37 |
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You want Great lakes Water? Simple solution. |
JonathanChance |
May-26-08 09:00 PM |
#45 |
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Exactily ! |
Lifetimedem |
May-31-08 04:03 PM |
#159 |
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people need to live where the water is.... |
Scout |
May-27-08 06:49 AM |
#97 |
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How about a trade? |
FORREST GRUMP |
May-29-08 03:56 PM |
#142 |
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"Denying people drinking water is not going to solve the problems." |
bean fidhleir |
May-27-08 07:02 AM |
#100 |
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One of the facts regarding the discovery of oil is that we have for |
jwirr |
May-26-08 07:54 PM |
#22 |
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It's far more complicated than that. |
knitter4democracy |
May-26-08 09:01 PM |
#46 |
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Nothing is wrong with sharing water, come here and get your drink. |
notadmblnd |
May-29-08 10:22 PM |
#147 |
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Yeah I lost a LOT of respect for him when he said that. |
Indenturedebtor |
May-27-08 01:56 AM |
#96 |
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Y'know, this is how civil wars start: When different regions of a country fight over resources. |
Selatius |
May-26-08 07:09 PM |
#4 |
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Water resources, our next war, and you can't drink oil. |
lonestarnot |
May-26-08 07:13 PM |
#6 |
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law of unintended consequences: |
ulysses |
May-26-08 07:35 PM |
#13 |
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Growing crops in areas that need constant irrigation |
Enthusiast |
May-26-08 08:53 PM |
#39 |
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Like moving to the desert? Stupid shit like that? nt |
mycritters2 |
May-26-08 08:54 PM |
#40 |
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And a desert that is batshit crazy for richie golfers. |
lonestarnot |
May-26-08 09:27 PM |
#68 |
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actually, I had in mind cosmetic things like watering lawns. |
ulysses |
May-26-08 09:31 PM |
#72 |
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The only people who have the right to live there are those willing to live within |
bean fidhleir |
May-27-08 07:13 AM |
#105 |
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Stupid shit, like pumping it into a desert? nt |
NCevilDUer |
May-28-08 10:26 AM |
#120 |
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That's too bad. People in the South and West will just have to move back North. |
NEOBuckeye |
May-26-08 07:57 PM |
#26 |
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1. what "back"? not everyone came from "back east". |
ulysses |
May-26-08 08:07 PM |
#28 |
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One difference, of course, is that if you live *WITHIN* the watershed... |
Tesha |
May-27-08 07:33 AM |
#110 |
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Sustainability |
Hans Moleman |
May-31-08 02:47 PM |
#157 |
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Y'know, I would advance the argument that perhaps the US should be broken into several nations. |
Selatius |
May-26-08 08:15 PM |
#29 |
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So what kind of mental giant are you? |
Enthusiast |
May-26-08 08:55 PM |
#41 |
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Heh, yet you automatically preclude any idea of a peaceful separation. Who's the mental giant? nt |
Selatius |
May-26-08 11:51 PM |
#93 |
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Oh relax, it will happen someday- remember that even Rome fell. |
Marrah_G |
May-27-08 07:26 AM |
#109 |
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I think it will before long. |
Marrah_G |
May-27-08 07:24 AM |
#108 |
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The hell of it is, all those people that move to the desert don't want |
NCevilDUer |
May-26-08 08:43 PM |
#35 |
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States like Michigan and Penn don't own that water... |
SidDithers |
May-26-08 08:41 PM |
#34 |
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yes, and Canada doesn't want the Great Lakes water going anywhere either n/t |
Scout |
May-27-08 06:57 AM |
#99 |
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Of course we need to protect them. Try telling the MI GOP that, though. |
knitter4democracy |
May-26-08 07:15 PM |
#7 |
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The Great Lakes supply over 30 million people drinking water... |
cynatnite |
May-26-08 07:23 PM |
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Drinking it isn't the problem - but selling it off to the desert states |
NCevilDUer |
May-26-08 08:46 PM |
#36 |
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Exactly. |
knitter4democracy |
May-26-08 09:03 PM |
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It's part of it, though. |
knitter4democracy |
May-26-08 09:02 PM |
#48 |
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wow...that's crazy if true |
Blue_Tires |
May-28-08 10:57 AM |
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It's all the talk up north. |
knitter4democracy |
May-28-08 02:41 PM |
#129 |
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Forget Oil -- It's all about WATER |
elfin |
May-26-08 07:20 PM |
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You bring up a good point that most people are unaware of - |
hedgehog |
May-30-08 10:25 AM |
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I think it will be inevitable that this country will install a nationwide aqueduct system. |
A HERETIC I AM |
May-26-08 07:32 PM |
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That natural flow into the Atlantic has the environmental effect of |
NCevilDUer |
May-26-08 08:50 PM |
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There is no reason to think the St. Lawrence Seaway would become a trickle. |
A HERETIC I AM |
May-26-08 10:11 PM |
#84 |
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What surplus? |
malakai2 |
May-26-08 10:33 PM |
#87 |
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There was no reason 50 years ago to think the Colorado would |
NCevilDUer |
May-26-08 10:34 PM |
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Actually, you have your Central Valley reference a bit backwards there. |
Xithras |
May-27-08 04:35 PM |
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Or those who moved to the South and southwest for the heat and dry air, |
mycritters2 |
May-26-08 08:57 PM |
#42 |
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People move to various regions in this country for a variety of reasons.... |
A HERETIC I AM |
May-26-08 10:15 PM |
#85 |
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But those two things are not similar |
malakai2 |
May-26-08 11:12 PM |
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If they prefer to be warm, they should put on a sweater! |
bean fidhleir |
May-27-08 09:08 AM |
#114 |
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OMG! This is exactly why we shouldn't do this. |
Enthusiast |
May-26-08 09:22 PM |
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It does not pass for a good idea. It is however, the reality. |
A HERETIC I AM |
May-26-08 10:08 PM |
#83 |
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The Great Lakes should be protected. |
Fox Mulder |
May-26-08 07:39 PM |
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y'all got everything you'll ever need in abundance up there? |
ulysses |
May-26-08 07:40 PM |
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Well, if we're talking trade here... |
malakai2 |
May-26-08 11:26 PM |
#91 |
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Of course...stupid people and their kids should go thirsty... |
cynatnite |
May-26-08 07:45 PM |
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Oh, so people here in the Midwest should go thirsty... |
Fox Mulder |
May-26-08 07:47 PM |
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You're the one calling AZ and NM residents stupid... |
cynatnite |
May-26-08 07:49 PM |
#20 |
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Why not set up desal plants? |
Fox Mulder |
May-26-08 07:50 PM |
#21 |
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Bullcrap. |
NCevilDUer |
May-26-08 08:58 PM |
#43 |
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They're the ones who chose to go without adequate water, |
mycritters2 |
May-26-08 08:59 PM |
#44 |
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Building THIS in a desert is stupid. |
mycritters2 |
May-26-08 09:08 PM |
#56 |
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no one is saying they cannot have any water |
Scout |
May-27-08 07:04 AM |
#102 |
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Trade you some Arizona copper. |
Ptah |
May-26-08 09:07 PM |
#54 |
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Michigan has copper.... n./t |
Scout |
May-27-08 07:06 AM |
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And of course, everyone in Phoenix works in the copper mines. |
NCevilDUer |
May-28-08 10:34 AM |
#121 |
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no, just move back to the habitable areas they abandoned |
galledgoblin |
May-26-08 07:55 PM |
#24 |
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Agreed. |
Fox Mulder |
May-26-08 07:55 PM |
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My uncle has lived in NM for 30 years...his daughter and grandchildren... |
cynatnite |
May-26-08 08:35 PM |
#33 |
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and if they want to stay there, fine... |
galledgoblin |
May-26-08 09:04 PM |
#53 |
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What % of the homes in Phoenix |
Enthusiast |
May-26-08 09:29 PM |
#69 |
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What percent of the homes in Phoenix have green lawns? |
Fox Mulder |
May-26-08 09:30 PM |
#71 |
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I have no idea, but it's insane to think that ANYONE owns a PRIVATE POOL |
galledgoblin |
May-26-08 09:42 PM |
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Google Earth pic of random neighbourhood in Phoenix... |
SidDithers |
May-27-08 08:07 AM |
#112 |
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See, these people would squander |
Enthusiast |
May-27-08 08:37 AM |
#113 |
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Holy shit!! WTF is wrong with those people?!! |
mycritters2 |
May-27-08 01:57 PM |
#115 |
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I saw A LOT of pools in Phoenix and surrounding cities. What's your point? |
kineta |
May-28-08 11:11 AM |
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And it's time to move. nt |
Enthusiast |
May-26-08 09:26 PM |
#67 |
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maybe they can drink the water they are using for their golf courses and swimming pools |
Scout |
May-27-08 07:02 AM |
#101 |
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A gaggle of geese, a hoarde of sippers...And now you know |
Whoa_Nelly |
May-26-08 07:54 PM |
#23 |
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They've sucked so much water out of the Colorado that it no longer reaches the ocean |
Ferd Berfle |
May-26-08 08:22 PM |
#31 |
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Well put. nt |
NCevilDUer |
May-26-08 09:04 PM |
#51 |
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Another +1 nt |
Enthusiast |
May-26-08 09:30 PM |
#70 |
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A line must be drawn here. |
Enthusiast |
May-26-08 09:01 PM |
#47 |
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People that live in the desert sw want our water to supply the fountains of Las vegas? |
greenman3610 |
May-26-08 09:04 PM |
#52 |
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And we'll keep our copper. |
Ptah |
May-26-08 09:09 PM |
#57 |
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I haven't asked for your copper. |
mycritters2 |
May-26-08 09:10 PM |
#58 |
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Whose copper do you depend on? |
Ptah |
May-26-08 09:12 PM |
#59 |
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If you decided not to make copper available, I'd have to learn to cope. |
mycritters2 |
May-26-08 09:14 PM |
#61 |
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It would be un-christian to not share our natural resources. |
Ptah |
May-26-08 09:16 PM |
#63 |
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You moved to where the resources aren't available. |
mycritters2 |
May-26-08 09:19 PM |
#64 |
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Adult, what a concept! nt |
Enthusiast |
May-26-08 09:34 PM |
#75 |
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well, then, the Iraqis should be happy to share their oil with us |
greenman3610 |
May-26-08 09:37 PM |
#76 |
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It would be un-christian to loot your neighbors' resources. nt |
NCevilDUer |
May-28-08 10:39 AM |
#122 |
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On second thought, it sounds VERY christian. nt |
NCevilDUer |
May-29-08 02:49 PM |
#139 |
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Is it Christian to destory one area's ecosystem to fill swimming pools and water golf courses |
gollygee |
May-28-08 10:49 AM |
#125 |
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Not being a christian, |
Book Lover |
May-29-08 12:44 AM |
#136 |
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Michigan's copper. |
Fox Mulder |
May-26-08 09:32 PM |
#73 |
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The Anaconda mines in Chile. probably. |
NCevilDUer |
May-26-08 10:00 PM |
#81 |
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Michigan still has plenty, actually. |
knitter4democracy |
May-28-08 02:44 PM |
#130 |
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You are right! |
Enthusiast |
May-26-08 09:32 PM |
#74 |
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And midwest water is already in short supply. |
NCevilDUer |
May-26-08 10:24 PM |
#86 |
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I'd like to see a map |
ulysses |
May-26-08 09:37 PM |
#77 |
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Ulysses, it would be interesting. |
Enthusiast |
May-26-08 09:53 PM |
#80 |
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thanks for the link to this water war story |
mdmc |
May-26-08 10:03 PM |
#82 |
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I can't say that I blame people for moving to the Southwest. |
riverdeep |
May-26-08 10:57 PM |
#89 |
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It's inconvenient to farm and beside that work can hired out anyway |
nolabels |
May-26-08 11:37 PM |
#92 |
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Not to continue with the dead horse but |
Enthusiast |
May-27-08 03:51 PM |
#116 |
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So you want to keep your water. Try keeping your populace that flees here. |
Neshanic |
May-26-08 11:53 PM |
#94 |
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if you're an example of the people we will find, no problem |
Scout |
May-27-08 07:12 AM |
#104 |
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No problem- I don't do well in intense heat and sun. |
Marrah_G |
May-27-08 07:34 AM |
#111 |
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We lost jobs to you, that's why. |
knitter4democracy |
May-28-08 02:47 PM |
#131 |
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Lake Erie is one of the cleanest fresh-water lakes |
Ikonoklast |
May-29-08 08:00 PM |
#144 |
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The shorter, warmer winters are lowering the water levels in the Great Lakes... |
tokenlib |
May-27-08 01:42 AM |
#95 |
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Can you envision foreign tankers |
Enthusiast |
May-27-08 03:54 PM |
#117 |
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Rumor has it that it's already happening. |
knitter4democracy |
May-28-08 02:48 PM |
#132 |
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It is a frightening prospect. |
Enthusiast |
May-29-08 12:21 AM |
#135 |
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This is a message from your friendly neighbourhood Canadian: |
Evoman |
May-27-08 04:29 PM |
#118 |
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Agreed....no water for Golf Courses in the desert SW |
LeftHander |
May-28-08 10:44 AM |
#123 |
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People forget that the water doesn't belong to the US |
gollygee |
May-28-08 10:46 AM |
#124 |
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Damn straight. |
knitter4democracy |
May-28-08 02:49 PM |
#133 |
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That's Right--We ARE Our Own Country Up Here |
Hidden Stillness |
May-29-08 10:37 AM |
#137 |
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Totally! |
knitter4democracy |
May-29-08 03:54 PM |
#141 |
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The desert states have to develop sustainable lifestyles. |
ozone_man |
May-28-08 03:22 PM |
#134 |
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Lake Michigan is Chicago's sewage treatment plant. |
L0oniX |
May-29-08 10:41 AM |
#138 |
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and nobody shits in Wisconsin? |
LSK |
May-29-08 02:55 PM |
#140 |
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I was just going for the largest city along Lake Michigan. I'm sure Milwaukee beer drinkers |
L0oniX |
May-29-08 07:41 PM |
#143 |
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Individual states making decisions about access to navigable waters like these. |
flvegan |
May-29-08 08:12 PM |
#145 |
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John Wesley Powell |
Mendocino |
May-29-08 10:15 PM |
#146 |
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Jesus - there are a lot of self-righeous republican acting ASSHOLES in this thread |
dbackjon |
May-29-08 11:01 PM |
#149 |
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I wouldn't say that. It's just a passionate issue. |
NutmegYankee |
May-30-08 12:17 AM |
#150 |
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I don't mind if some people have to live in desert areas |
galledgoblin |
May-30-08 02:09 AM |
#151 |
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So you don't use any modern amenities in your house? |
dbackjon |
May-30-08 01:12 PM |
#154 |
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I consider the northeast-great lakes region to be my neighborhood |
galledgoblin |
May-31-08 02:36 PM |
#156 |
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Hark! The forthcoming invasion of Canada! n/t |
Toucano |
May-30-08 01:16 PM |
#155 |
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What is needed is tertiary water treatment along with conservation. |
seasat |
May-31-08 03:56 PM |
#158 |
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