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Re Recount: Remiss! Excellent Op-Ed
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by Barbara Bellows-TerraNova Page 1 of 2 page(s)

When I read last week that James Baker III hosted a preview of the HBO film Recount at the Baker Institute for Public Policy at Rice University in Houston, I knew that this dramatic interpretation of the 2000 election would disappoint those who long for historical accuracy.

And it did.

Not in all ways, mind you, but in some extraordinarily essential ones.

On Sunday morning, I wrote in an email that a true telling of the 2000 election had to include at least two points. An excellent telling would include a third. I finished with "Lets see how HBO does."

Within minutes of the start of Recount, I yelled out, "NO!" Thats not right!" They blew it coming out of the gate.

The film showed that at 2:16 AM, the vote in Florida, which would be the deciding factor for the entire country, was called by ABC News for George W. Bush, immediately followed by the NBC, CBS and CNN.

But that is simply not the case. History has shown that the first call at 2:16 AM came from Fox News conveniently omitted by HBO. The person who made that call was John Ellis, the son of former President George H.W. Bushs sister Nancy, first cousin of both Texas Governor George W. Bush and Florida Governor Jeb Bush. He later reported to The New Yorker how "cool" it was to be on the phone with his two powerful cousins, going over the numbers all night and into the morning, until the moment the numbers showed that George had won and Ellis made the fateful call for Bush. Though Ellis claimed he had done the calculations, the actual election projection expert at Fox, Cynthia Talkov, sitting with him, has since reported that Ellis simply gave the call on Jebs say-so.

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  -Re Recount: Remiss! Excellent Op-Ed helderheid  May-26-08 10:34 AM   #0 
  - thanks for the recs, y'all  helderheid   May-26-08 10:41 AM   #1 
  - good  SoFlaJet   May-26-08 10:44 AM   #2 
  - I was out of the country when it happened.  helderheid   May-26-08 10:48 AM   #3 
     - we saw and heard of things  SoFlaJet   May-26-08 10:51 AM   #5 
        - Think of how different our world would look had it been fair.  helderheid   May-26-08 10:52 AM   #6 
           - I've sat outside many a night  SoFlaJet   May-26-08 11:02 AM   #7 
              - That very thought has occurred to me as well. 2006 proved that if the election isn't close, it  helderheid   May-26-08 11:04 AM   #9 
                 - I thought it would have to be Gore in '08  SoFlaJet   May-26-08 11:09 AM   #10 
                 - I too was convinced Gore would be our nominee but I am thrilled with Obama.  helderheid   May-26-08 11:14 AM   #12 
                 - Proved? I don't know....  eowyn_of_rohan   May-27-08 07:33 AM   #37 
                 - You're right  helderheid   May-27-08 09:36 AM   # 
                 - Just think about how many more reps in congress we would have  rainy   May-27-08 09:36 AM   #55 
  - They stole it in so many ways.  knitter4democracy   May-26-08 10:51 AM   #4 
  - It was sickening. I felt it all over again with Ohio. I had hope, though I knew they'd do everything  helderheid   May-26-08 11:02 AM   #8 
     - Me, too.  knitter4democracy   May-26-08 03:08 PM   #25 
     - Who voted to certify Ohio  Bluenorthwest   May-27-08 08:05 AM   #42 
        - Thanks for reminding people that both Obama & Clinton voted to certify Ohio's votes in Jan. '05  eowyn_of_rohan   May-27-08 08:50 AM   #50 
        - I can't blame either.  junofeb   May-27-08 09:02 AM   #52 
           - How can you not blame them? What justification did they have?  eowyn_of_rohan   May-27-08 09:06 AM   #53 
     - And e-voting machines were manipulated in 2000 , too.  eowyn_of_rohan   May-27-08 07:38 AM   #39 
  - Eight years later, we're still waiting for vote reform legislation  notsodumbhillbilly   May-26-08 11:13 AM   #11 
  - It's MIND BLOWING. It has gotten a bit better (California is an example) but it is insane that our  helderheid   May-26-08 11:18 AM   #13 
  - But we "won" in 2006! What happened.... nt  eowyn_of_rohan   May-27-08 07:40 AM   #40 
     - the margins were too big  AZDemDist6   May-27-08 08:25 AM   #44 
     - I will volunteer to be a poll worker this time... haven't done it before  eowyn_of_rohan   May-27-08 08:30 AM   #46 
        - call now, I'm working the Primary on June 3rd  AZDemDist6   May-27-08 08:33 AM   #47 
           - I hope I'm not too late  eowyn_of_rohan   May-27-08 08:51 AM   #51 
     - Wasn't close enough. I'm sure some were stolen in 2006.  helderheid   May-27-08 09:38 AM   #56 
  - I was waiting in anticipation  Froward69   May-26-08 11:27 AM   #14 
  - Indeed.  helderheid   May-26-08 11:30 AM   #15 
  - The Fix is In By Hunter S. Thompson  MinM   May-26-08 11:33 AM   #16 
  - wow, thanks!  helderheid   May-26-08 11:37 AM   #17 
  - Alas, Hunter S. Thompson - another "suicide"  eowyn_of_rohan   May-27-08 08:12 AM   #43 
  - The most disappointing part of the film was the unstated fact  burythehatchet   May-26-08 12:00 PM   #18 
  - I got half way through it and am thinking I won't bother finishing it.  helderheid   May-26-08 12:13 PM   #19 
     - I only lasted 20 minutes and then turned it off  DeeDeeNY   May-26-08 08:09 PM   #27 
  - I Would Imagine They Also Left Out The Replacement Of Jane Carroll In Broward...  Senator   May-26-08 12:17 PM   #20 
  - Thanks K&R n/t  slipslidingaway   May-26-08 12:36 PM   #21 
  - yteah--it's glossy and ineffective as a tool for progressives  librechik   May-26-08 12:54 PM   #22 
  - kick  Eric J in MN   May-26-08 01:03 PM   #23 
  - I didn't see it, but to answer her question  glitch   May-26-08 01:04 PM   #24 
  - That the fact that fox called it first was  bbgrunt   May-26-08 03:27 PM   #26 
  - I don't intend to forget John Ellis and Fox n/t  malaise   May-26-08 08:14 PM   #28 
  - watching now, like I need to be reminded how this thuggish  alyce douglas   May-26-08 08:18 PM   #29 
  - It's a sad statement on American political life  Canuckistanian   May-26-08 08:53 PM   #30 
  - KICK  helderheid   May-26-08 09:26 PM   #31 
  - I wish the scene with Baker calling in the thugs could be seen by every American  young_at_heart   May-26-08 09:32 PM   #32 
  - His tactics were extremely disturbing  eowyn_of_rohan   May-27-08 08:47 AM   #49 
  - K&R  DeepModem Mom   May-26-08 10:07 PM   #33 
  - Thanks helderheid!  whereismyparty   May-26-08 11:12 PM   #34 
  - Baker is a crook!  Razorblade02   May-27-08 04:02 AM   #35 
  - Watching him spin... he was like the devil incarnate  eowyn_of_rohan   May-27-08 08:36 AM   #48 
  - k&'re welcome ; )  Dystopian   May-27-08 06:30 AM   #36 
  - Fair and "facts only"  bonnieS   May-27-08 07:40 AM   #41 
  - No Ending  panhead1961   May-27-08 07:34 AM   #38 
  - huh? n/t  AZDemDist6   May-27-08 08:26 AM   #45 
  - ttt  Blue_Tires   May-27-08 09:08 AM   #54 
  - Hey, look. A thread with actual relevant content and substance voted to the front page.  onehandle   May-27-08 10:34 AM   #57 
  - Refreshing, isn't it!  eowyn_of_rohan   May-27-08 10:44 AM   #58 
  - Kicked, too late to recommend.  Uncle Joe   May-27-08 12:34 PM   #59 
  - Broken Link  heliarc   May-28-08 04:54 PM   #60 

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