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Thu May-22-08 05:00 AM
Response to Reply #7 |
| 10. As usual, not much will be done about energy until things get bad |
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It's the way politics works.
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| -Chinese demand is driving up oil prices? Pull the other one. |
Hannah Bell |
May-21-08 11:16 PM |
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More on the bubble. |
Hannah Bell |
May-21-08 11:22 PM |
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It is becoming increasingly evident... |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
May-22-08 02:08 AM |
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Remember |
tama |
May-22-08 05:07 AM |
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Not entirely... |
dantyrant |
May-24-08 02:42 AM |
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Stagnant since 2005 |
tama |
May-22-08 03:34 AM |
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I'm Calling It A "Shell" Game... |
KharmaTrain |
May-22-08 06:58 AM |
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The US is sitting on our oil reserves. |
Mimosa |
May-21-08 11:31 PM |
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More, those jobs were entry level jobs so people within could work up from them. |
HypnoToad |
May-24-08 03:24 PM |
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Don't cha know... they have to fuel all those Fords GM and Chryslers |
notadmblnd |
May-21-08 11:35 PM |
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We should NATIONALIZE our oil industry -- as a matter of national security. |
Rageneau |
May-22-08 12:05 AM |
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Never gonna happen. |
Blue State Native |
May-22-08 07:15 AM |
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I second that. |
macracan |
May-22-08 08:26 AM |
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You rock Hannah! k+r n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
May-22-08 02:37 AM |
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As you said |
tama |
May-22-08 03:21 AM |
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As usual, not much will be done about energy until things get bad |
Disturbed |
May-22-08 05:00 AM |
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demand up ~9% since 2002, price up 600%. |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-08 05:48 AM |
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Capitalism 101 |
tama |
May-22-08 06:35 AM |
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it's possible you can get your point across without the condescending |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-08 06:48 AM |
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Sorry, not my purpose |
tama |
May-22-08 07:02 AM |
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Net oil exports |
tama |
May-22-08 04:58 AM |
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"Not wanting to make more money since 2005 or no more stuff to export? Take a wild guess" |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-08 06:18 AM |
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sigh |
tama |
May-22-08 06:52 AM |
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In fact, demand has increased in "the developing countries". |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-08 06:56 AM |
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Devoping countries |
tama |
May-22-08 07:11 AM |
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Which goes along with the wild media exaggeration of the |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-08 06:53 AM |
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I try not to |
tama |
May-22-08 07:17 AM |
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"Pull the other one, it's got bells on it". |
old mark |
May-22-08 07:45 AM |
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The notion that demand is rising at 1.5% is a bit of a fallacy. |
eallen |
May-22-08 09:14 AM |
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if demand is rising in excess of supply, we'd expect to see |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-08 12:37 PM |
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No. What markets produce in that circumstance is rising price. |
eallen |
May-22-08 09:22 PM |
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If supply is actually short - which supposedly it is, as consumption |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-08 11:38 PM |
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Yes |
tama |
May-24-08 05:45 PM |
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Rationing by price. We are maintaining the supply=demand balance on the backs |
loindelrio |
May-22-08 09:33 PM |
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Let's see the evidence in decreased use statistics. |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-08 11:24 PM |
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1995-2005, China increased its consumption |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-08 12:04 AM |
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2005 |
tama |
May-23-08 10:05 AM |
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prices have been rising steadily since 2002. so if your theory |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-08 02:40 PM |
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2007 consumption growth: 0.7%. |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-08 03:02 PM |
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Interesting numbers |
tama |
May-24-08 02:14 AM |
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yes, interesting numbers, & interesting how you blow smoke to |
Hannah Bell |
May-24-08 01:28 PM |
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There's documentation going back to the turn of the century |
Hannah Bell |
May-24-08 01:33 PM |
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My thesis? |
tama |
May-24-08 02:08 PM |
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1 example of shortage in nepal doesn't prove your point, which |
Hannah Bell |
May-24-08 03:10 PM |
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Whatever |
tama |
May-24-08 04:09 PM |
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i didn't claim there were no shortages anywhere; i said: |
Hannah Bell |
May-24-08 04:46 PM |
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You can't see the pattern |
tama |
May-24-08 05:33 PM |
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i cAn see by the country stAtistics thAt it doesn't exist in sufficiency |
Hannah Bell |
May-24-08 07:14 PM |
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"show me the evidence" |
tama |
May-24-08 02:19 AM |
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It's a bubble |
Geek_Girl |
May-24-08 01:38 PM |
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The signs of strain are there, if you look for it... |
Solon |
May-23-08 12:32 AM |
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Yes, I see the price strain. What I don't see is evidence of |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-08 12:51 AM |
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Of course price increases can have many different causes... |
Solon |
May-23-08 01:11 AM |
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You can mention all those things, but the mention doesn't |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-08 01:22 AM |
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The oil is never going to run out... |
Solon |
May-23-08 01:39 AM |
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i didn't say oil won't run out. i have no idea that isn't based on |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-08 02:25 AM |
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You see |
tama |
May-23-08 10:26 AM |
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You've stated it plainly |
Hydra |
May-22-08 10:34 AM |
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Thank you for the plainest-spoken post on this thread. |
GreenEyedLefty |
May-24-08 08:39 PM |
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am kick |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-08 12:21 PM |
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K&R for the reality check |
varelse |
May-22-08 07:30 PM |
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K&R n/t |
T.Ruth2power |
May-22-08 10:14 PM |
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No one else whould have demand except for us and our gas guzzlers. |
kerry-is-my-prez |
May-23-08 12:11 AM |
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It's no different than what Enron did, manipulating the eletricity market in California. |
gatorboy |
May-23-08 12:14 AM |
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Another Enron SCAM.... |
TheGoldenRule |
May-23-08 12:42 AM |
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Greg Palast article on oil and war profiteering |
Blue Gardener |
May-23-08 07:04 AM |
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GREAT article - worthy of an OP so it gets the attention it deserves! |
bullwinkle428 |
May-23-08 10:19 AM |
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oil is valued in US dollars correct? |
biermeister |
May-23-08 07:19 AM |
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Absolutely. The falling dollar is a large part of the problem. |
mainer |
May-23-08 08:47 AM |
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Well, not really. Its reported in US dollars here but it trades in all currancies |
ThomWV |
May-24-08 05:39 PM |
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If you are convinced |
taught_me_patience |
May-24-08 08:17 PM |
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