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233. Thank you Diclotican
Yes it will happen Did you see Philippe Sands?
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  -Iraq is a clear-cut case of genocide. seemslikeadream  May-21-08 11:22 AM   #0 
  - No doubt about it.  BuyingThyme   May-21-08 11:24 AM   #1 
  - Absolutely---!!! Genocide---!!! War on Arabs...and in part religious anti-Muslim war, of course!!  defendandprotect   May-22-08 10:51 PM   #238 
  - with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 11:26 AM   #2 
  - It's not my words  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 11:34 AM   #5 
  - You're reposting them  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 11:35 AM   #6 
     - Yes I'm posting them, no they are not my words and.......  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 11:38 AM   #8 
        - No it is not  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 11:56 AM   #14 
           - Iraqi Woman Speaks Out about Genocide in Iraq  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:00 PM   #16 
           - Again doesn't speak to intent  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:06 PM   #22 
              - Prove to me that it wasn't bush's intent  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:07 PM   #23 
              - I can link thousands of speeches, etc  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:13 PM   #30 
                 - Thousands of speeches?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:14 PM   #32 
                    - No of course not  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:14 PM   #33 
                       - fucking moron, yes, but NOT the mastermind that's for sure  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:15 PM   #34 
                       - Fair enough  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:18 PM   #37 
                          - intent to murder Iraqi's because of who they are?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:20 PM   #42 
                          - k  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:23 PM   #44 
                             - my actual evidence is DEAD IRAQIS  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:24 PM   #48 
                                - Doesn't prove Intent  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:26 PM   #53 
                                   - LOTS OF DEAD IRAQIS  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:27 PM   #55 
                                   - How does that prove intent?  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:29 PM   #57 
                                   - You can not prove to me it was NOT their intent  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:30 PM   #58 
                                   - you give them far to much credit  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:34 PM   #62 
                                   - YOU HAVE SHOWN ME NO PROOF  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:35 PM   #66 
                                   - CAN I HAZ CAPITAL LETTERZ  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:37 PM   #69 
                                   - (Best damn reply to anything I've seen posted here ever)  semillama   May-21-08 12:42 PM   #72 
                                   - It would be if he wasn't so challenged in the spelling department  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:50 PM   #77 
                                   - You should get out more  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:51 PM   #78 
                                   - I find when someone is loosing an argument here they go for the "small" stuff  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:53 PM   #81 
                                   - Wait, you're arguing?  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:56 PM   #83 
                                   - But you have not shown me any proof it was not intended?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:58 PM   #86 
                                   - You can't prove a negative  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:00 PM   #88 
                                   - Now don't go putting words in my mouth, I argued no such thing  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:03 PM   #92 
                                   - Yes you did  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:07 PM   #94 
                                   - could have been predicted by any reasonable person."  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:18 PM   #97 
                                   - What's your point?  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:21 PM   #100 
                                   - No you are belittling it because in your opinion the word can only be used by "some" people  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:23 PM   #102 
                                   - You can't make up your own defintions  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:24 PM   #104 
                                   - Yes and Iraqis qualify  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:25 PM   #105 
                                   - They qualify to be considered, sure  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:31 PM   #108 
                                   - Oh don't you dare lecture me on caps  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:48 PM   #75 
                                   - Wow  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:52 PM   #80 
                                   - You can't argue the FACTS so you go for the CRAPS  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:54 PM   #82 
                                   - You've provided facts?  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:57 PM   #85 
                                   - Yep  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:58 PM   #87 
                                   - No sir you have not  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:01 PM   #89 
                                   - perhaps we should listen to historians  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:02 PM   #90 
                                   - Interesting Article  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:06 PM   #93 
                                   - May I step in?  Truth2Tell   May-21-08 11:01 PM   #221 
                                   - Uh huh. So, the American Revolution was also a genocide, because the FF knew that many  Dark   May-21-08 11:21 PM   #224 
                                   - The American Revolution  Truth2Tell   May-21-08 11:28 PM   #225 
                                   - No, it wasn't genocide.  Dark   May-21-08 11:35 PM   #226 
                                   - "everyone who engages in war knows there's going to be civilian and military casualties"  Truth2Tell   May-21-08 11:49 PM   #228 
                                   - Yes it is always best to start with personal attacks when you can't argue facts  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:57 PM   #84 
                                   - you are my hero/heroine  cali   May-21-08 03:03 PM   #157 
                                   - Of course you would admire personal attacks  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 03:47 PM   #166 
                                   - that poster couldn't have been more courteous. YOU are  cali   May-21-08 04:06 PM   #178 
                                   - You only see what you want to see cali, as usual  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 04:14 PM   #181 
                                   - Hilarious, Slad, just hilarious.  cali   May-21-08 04:18 PM   #185 
                                   - As usual cali you bring NOTHING to the discussion but you little snide remarks  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 04:22 PM   #188 
                                   - I vote 'Criminal Negligence' leading to Mass Manslaughter  Mimosa   May-21-08 11:40 PM   #227 
                                   - You have proof that Bush ...  davekriss   May-21-08 09:22 PM   #220 
                                   - Oh maybe you were in on those SECRET energy meetings with Cheney?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:32 PM   #60 
                                   - I was actually  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:35 PM   #65 
                                   - If it helps, I agree with you.  LanternWaste   May-21-08 01:14 PM   #95 
                                   - Exactly  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:16 PM   #96 
                                   - Oh I see only SOME people can QUALIFY for the term genocide  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:20 PM   #99 
                                   - Exactly!  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:23 PM   #101 
                                   - I wasn't talking about intent I was talking about results  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:24 PM   #103 
                                   - I know, I made a funny  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:28 PM   #106 
                                   - BULLSHIT  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:34 PM   #109 
                                   - Quit trying to change the subject  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:36 PM   #111 
                                   - because it is happening  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:37 PM   #112 
                                   - Ok show me  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:38 PM   #114 
                                   - We invaded the country illegally and a million Iraqis are dead and more will die  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:39 PM   #116 
                                   - All horrific and criminal  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:40 PM   #118 
                                   - Juan Mendez, Kofi Annan's special advisor on the prevention of genocide,  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:42 PM   #120 
                                   - How does that apply to U.S. intent?  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:46 PM   #124 
                                   - Shiite on Sunni and Sunni on Shiite violence  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:47 PM   #126 
                                   - 632 AD  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:50 PM   #129 
                                   - so it's ok for us to kill Iraqis cause they've been killing each other since 632ad?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 02:03 PM   #134 
                                   - no  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 02:06 PM   #137 
                                   - Intent = starting an illegal war  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 02:07 PM   #138 
                                   - Explain  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 02:10 PM   #140 
                                   - Here - It's all right here  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 02:12 PM   #141 
                                   - Well I skimmed it  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 02:33 PM   #149 
                                   - Whatever I'll put more weight in this paper than an anonymous poster at DU  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 02:36 PM   #151 
                                   - Fine by me  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 02:57 PM   #152 
                                   - Is that the best YOU can do? NOTHING?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 02:58 PM   #153 
                                   - Here you are  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 02:30 PM   #147 
                                   - the deaths of those actually targeted by genocide.  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:19 PM   #98 
                                   - Here's a short reading list...  LanternWaste   May-21-08 01:29 PM   #107 
                                   - Strange you forgot the Native Americans and the Irish  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:36 PM   #110 
                                   - What does that have to do with the discussion at hand?  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:37 PM   #113 
                                   - Do you believe it was genocide in regards to the Native Americans and the Irish?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:38 PM   #115 
                                   - Not relevant to this dicussion  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:40 PM   #117 
                                   - A MILLION DEAD IRAQIS AND IT IS THE FAULT OF THE U.S.  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:43 PM   #121 
                                   - Not arguing that point  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:47 PM   #127 
                                   - Yes and yes  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:49 PM   #128 
                                   - So do you agree that it can be wrong, and not be Genocide?  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 01:51 PM   #130 
                                   - I simply listed a few examples rather than making a comprehensive list  LanternWaste   May-21-08 02:24 PM   #143 
                                   - here  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 02:29 PM   #146 
                                   - The author of your paper...  LanternWaste   May-21-08 03:00 PM   #154 
                                   - Do you have some proof he is not credible?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 03:45 PM   #165 
                                   - I did not say he was credible.  LanternWaste   May-21-08 03:51 PM   #169 
                                   - He is only one of the sources I have linked to here  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 03:54 PM   #173 
                                   - I disagree with your thesis statement  LanternWaste   May-21-08 03:59 PM   #174 
                                   - I'm not tap dancing around EVERYONE just the three of you  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 04:15 PM   #182 
                                   - and it's not my thesis statement  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 04:16 PM   #183 
                                   - I don't usually post from work  SpookyCat   May-22-08 12:56 PM   #234 
                                   - Your caps lock seemstobestuck again...nt  SidDithers   May-21-08 01:43 PM   #122 
                                   - No I am yelling AGAIN Sid  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:44 PM   #123 
                                   - Can I give you guys a quick shout-out?  Jed Dilligan   May-21-08 06:50 PM   #213 
                                   - I think intent is proved  davekriss   May-21-08 09:17 PM   #219 
                                   - SteelPenguin  Diclotican   May-22-08 11:36 AM   #231 
                                      - Thank you Diclotican  seemslikeadream   May-22-08 12:53 PM   #233 
                                      - seemslikeadream  Diclotican   May-22-08 04:11 PM   #237 
                          - this is absurd  Two Americas   May-21-08 06:49 PM   #212 
                       - Best figureheads for thumb twiddling masterminds are morons.  zonmoy   May-21-08 12:51 PM   #79 
              - Simply entering Iraq was a crime. Deaths caused while in the commision of a crime are Murder 1.  Wizard777   May-21-08 12:35 PM   #64 
           - What we're seeing is a systematic and deliberate depopulation of Iraq  Chulanowa   May-21-08 12:05 PM   #21 
           - Show me SOME kind of proof  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:09 PM   #24 
              - PNAC's original "Statement of Principles" of June 3, 1997,  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:12 PM   #29 
              - American Hegeomny != Genocide  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:14 PM   #31 
                 - If you kill to achieve that dominance. Yes it is genocide. That's motive AKA intent.  Wizard777   May-21-08 12:37 PM   #68 
                    - that's Military Imperialism.  LanternWaste   May-21-08 03:02 PM   #155 
              - "c) Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction"  yodermon   May-21-08 12:25 PM   #51 
              - The DOJ has let the statute of limitations expire on that charge.  Wizard777   May-21-08 12:39 PM   #70 
              - You really think the aftershocks of our invasion were unintentional?  Chulanowa   May-21-08 11:08 PM   #222 
              - The problem with your analogy  Truth2Tell   May-21-08 11:13 PM   #223 
           - The holocaust was not Genocide by your rationing.  Wizard777   May-21-08 12:11 PM   #28 
              - Uh no, that's SPECIFICALLY genocide  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:16 PM   #35 
              - and what do you think of 4 million dead in Congo since 1998?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:18 PM   #36 
              - Oh i'm happy those people are dying?  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:19 PM   #41 
                 - not a strawman there is genocide going on all over this world  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:21 PM   #43 
                 - Never claimed there isn't  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:23 PM   #46 
                 - read that number again, take a minute for it to sink in... 4 MILLION  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:23 PM   #45 
                    - How does that apply to the situation in Iraq?  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:24 PM   #47 
                       - Please name me one country where white folks are being killed off  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:26 PM   #52 
                          - How does that apply to the situation in Iraq?  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:27 PM   #54 
                          - Only currently, or in the entire history of humankind?  LanternWaste   May-21-08 03:05 PM   #158 
                             - Any time at all  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 03:50 PM   #167 
                                - Well... to use one of your earlier examples  LanternWaste   May-21-08 03:54 PM   #172 
                                   - Let's add it up LanternWaste  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 04:25 PM   #189 
              - It was blatant law enforcement. There is always a dodge with Genocide.  Wizard777   May-21-08 12:25 PM   #50 
                 - Wait  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 12:28 PM   #56 
                 - He was merely enforcing the law. Would have most like been his defense.  Wizard777   May-21-08 12:44 PM   #73 
                 - There were however, high ranking cabinet members who did just that.  LanternWaste   May-21-08 03:10 PM   #159 
                 - oh, yes he did. Publically and in print.  cali   May-21-08 03:14 PM   #160 
                    - And where did Hitler get his ideas cali?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 03:52 PM   #171 
                       - Nothing is as simplistic in real life as in your world.  cali   May-21-08 03:59 PM   #175 
                       - You have no idea what you are talking about, reading it's a good thing  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 04:17 PM   #184 
                          - I have far more of and idea of what I'm talking about  cali   May-21-08 04:33 PM   #191 
                          - Have YOU ever read Edwin Black's IBM and the Holocaust, War Against the Weak?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 04:36 PM   #193 
                             - Those are 2 different books listed on a page that has your uncredited quote.  greyl   May-21-08 05:43 PM   #202 
                                - I know they're two fucking different books  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 05:46 PM   #203 
                                - You worded your post as if it was one book. Just helping to clarify things. nt  greyl   May-21-08 06:03 PM   #204 
                                   - Sure whatever makes you feel important greyl  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 06:07 PM   #206 
                                - So you come out of the dungeon to read every single word I post and  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 06:04 PM   #205 
                          - You should credit the original author of your post. At least signify that it's a quote.  greyl   May-21-08 05:38 PM   #201 
                             - GET OFF MY ASS greyl and go back to the dungeon  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 06:08 PM   #207 
                             - I have posted about Edwin Black's books at DU for years now  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 06:10 PM   #209 
                             - You can't stand it when my threads are on the Greatest Page  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 06:13 PM   #210 
                             - Do you have an opinion on the OP greyl? Seems you're just here  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 06:18 PM   #211 
                       - As Hitler, himself, said....he was only finishing what the Catholic Church had  defendandprotect   May-22-08 10:56 PM   #239 
              - Not a pre-existing law, though...  LanternWaste   May-21-08 03:03 PM   #156 
  - They intended to destroy the baath party and did that.  Wizard777   May-21-08 11:39 AM   #9 
  - That was their intent?  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 11:55 AM   #13 
  - They are a political and religious group. That is also covered.  Wizard777   May-21-08 12:01 PM   #19 
  - That's all.  LanternWaste   May-21-08 01:03 PM   #91 
  - Agreed. n/t  cynatnite   May-21-08 12:00 PM   #17 
  - Pitbulls are fine family dogs.  uppityperson   May-21-08 11:27 AM   #3 
  - They can be. I have two.  Wizard777   May-21-08 12:02 PM   #20 
  - ~hears the sound of a plane roaring past the Wizard~  Marrah_G   May-21-08 12:10 PM   #27 
     - Huh, gandalf is back.  uppityperson   May-21-08 09:01 PM   #218 
  - Meet me at Olive Garden for lunch? I can be there right after I pick up some smokes at Walmart.  Marrah_G   May-21-08 12:10 PM   #25 
     - Don't forget to let your kids run wild and push shopping carts around also.  uppityperson   May-21-08 08:54 PM   #217 
  - Yes, it's going on a 20 year genocide.  arcadian   May-21-08 11:32 AM   #4 
  - Blood on hands != Genocide  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 11:36 AM   #7 
     - Genocide by design?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 11:41 AM   #11 
        - Intent?  SteelPenguin   May-21-08 11:58 AM   #15 
           - again  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:01 PM   #18 
              - EXACTLY  fascisthunter   May-21-08 03:35 PM   #163 
  - For those who doubt genocide  hard rains   May-21-08 11:39 AM   #10 
  - John Edwards used the word  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 11:53 AM   #12 
  - I don't agree.  TheWraith   May-21-08 12:10 PM   #26 
  - I've read that Iraqi military casualties were 130,000.  Wizard777   May-21-08 12:18 PM   #38 
  - You're talking about the current war, not the 1991 Gulf War.  TheWraith   May-21-08 12:35 PM   #67 
     - No I'm talking about 130,000 Iraqi military deaths in the gulf war.  Wizard777   May-21-08 12:48 PM   #74 
  - The intent is there. It is not an ADMISSION of guilty intent, but it is clearly there.  The Stranger   May-21-08 12:18 PM   #39 
  - quite often. it was there in Rwanda  cali   May-21-08 03:17 PM   #161 
     - And WHO was president then cali?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 03:51 PM   #168 
        - FDR  cali   May-21-08 04:03 PM   #177 
           - Hello cali, I was talking about Rwanda  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 04:19 PM   #186 
  - Yay! Indiscriminately killing everyone is better than targeting a few...  JackRiddler   May-21-08 12:25 PM   #49 
     - Yay for ridiculous strawman arguments!!  TheWraith   May-21-08 12:35 PM   #63 
  - of course, they committed genocide  alyce douglas   May-21-08 12:19 PM   #40 
  - US actions in Vietnam and Iraq are genocide  JackRiddler   May-21-08 12:31 PM   #59 
  - We try  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 12:33 PM   #61 
     - What a great graphic  JackRiddler   May-21-08 12:40 PM   #71 
  - Yes it is-and I don't need to read the rest of OP to know that.  TheGoldenRule   May-21-08 12:48 PM   #76 
  - It's deja vu all over again...  SidDithers   May-21-08 01:41 PM   #119 
  - Is that the only one you could find?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 01:46 PM   #125 
     - The only one I cared to go looking for...  SidDithers   May-21-08 01:55 PM   #131 
        - Oh bullshit here's another one  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 02:02 PM   #133 
        - refuted by bolo and you?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 02:05 PM   #135 
           - Right, 'cause we were the only ones disagreeing with you...  SidDithers   May-21-08 02:22 PM   #142 
              - Here ya go sweetie  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 02:29 PM   #145 
                 - Thanks, toots...  SidDithers   May-21-08 03:39 PM   #164 
  - Absolutely! And the fact that Bush and his accomplices aren't  ladjf   May-21-08 01:59 PM   #132 
  - Sorry I'm too late to recommend this and JackRiddler's post...  countryjake   May-21-08 02:05 PM   #136 
  - You're not too late to recommend this  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 02:08 PM   #139 
     - Done! So glad Mr. Dithers dug up that one from March...  countryjake   May-21-08 02:25 PM   #144 
        - Thanks to you for your support and here's something to use  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 02:33 PM   #150 
           - It's not complicated  malaise   May-21-08 04:30 PM   #190 
              - Sometimes I think it's the good German "thing"  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 04:38 PM   #194 
                 - History will not absolve them  malaise   May-21-08 05:25 PM   #199 
                    - Especially as Depleted Uranium poisoning of Iraqi air, water, & soil...  countryjake   May-21-08 05:37 PM   #200 
  - Given our firepower, if our intent was to exterminate Iraqis as a group we could do it in a month.  Zynx   May-21-08 02:33 PM   #148 
  - by the,er, thinking of the OP  cali   May-21-08 03:20 PM   #162 
  - The United States of America  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 03:52 PM   #170 
     - Raena  cali   May-21-08 04:00 PM   # 
        - What the hell are you talking about?  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 04:21 PM   #187 
  - Wrong on so many levels...  JackRiddler   May-21-08 04:00 PM   #176 
  - Controlled chaos keeps the military embezzlement going for years  specimenfred1984   May-21-08 04:13 PM   #179 
  - Oh yeh, you're back on ignore  specimenfred1984   May-21-08 04:14 PM   #180 
  - the opening paragraphs are important  leftchick   May-21-08 04:35 PM   #192 
  - He who is silent is assumed to consent  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 04:40 PM   #195 
  - if it's genocide, then what ethnic group is being destroyed?  Enrique   May-21-08 04:45 PM   #196 
  - theft by genocide  T Monk   May-21-08 04:46 PM   #197 
  - Yes it is  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 06:09 PM   #208 
  - My take on this:  Zodiak Ironfist   May-21-08 05:23 PM   #198 
  - Reducing the devastation in Iraq to a definition is amazing to me.  greyl   May-21-08 07:03 PM   #214 
  - I'm not manufacturing anything  seemslikeadream   May-21-08 07:12 PM   #215 
  - mass murder genocide why quibble  T Monk   May-21-08 07:28 PM   #216 
  - Seems the debate is incompetence vs. intentional  iconicgnom   May-22-08 12:23 PM   #232 
  - Madeleine Albright in 1996 commenting on the death of 500,000 dead iraqi children: "It was worth it"  no limit   May-22-08 08:46 AM   #229 
  - With all the DU Munitions used the place is a radioactive waste land.  bagrman   May-22-08 11:09 AM   #230 
  - Mass killing of women and children, elderly and sick as well as non combatants  windoe   May-22-08 02:37 PM   #235 
  - That was apparent after the Mission Accomplished banner showed Bush had no  whistle   May-22-08 02:51 PM   #236 
 

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