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Sat May-03-08 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #38 |
| 40. And how many FLDSers do you see who are objecting? |
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Very very few -- because of the degree of mind control in this cult.
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| -Don't let the dresses fool you. The FLDS wives aren't Caroline Ingalls, they're |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 11:26 AM |
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I will admit to not having followed this story... |
adsosletter |
May-03-08 11:33 AM |
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This is something that has been testified to by many ex cult members, |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 11:38 AM |
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well then... |
adsosletter |
May-03-08 11:41 AM |
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Here's more, from Carolyn Jessop. Brace yourself. |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 11:57 AM |
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Horrific, it makes me sick |
OzarkDem |
May-03-08 12:11 PM |
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This week TX authorities reported that there was an unusually |
kestrel91316 |
May-03-08 12:23 PM |
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And these might be only the tip of the iceberg, since they were |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 01:22 PM |
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I'm so glad Texas had the courage to go in there |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
May-03-08 11:36 AM |
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Unfortunately, Texas is only the tip of the iceberg for these people. |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 11:39 AM |
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Is this all speculation or.... |
shrdlu |
May-03-08 11:40 AM |
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Nothing I've said is rocket science or requires a knowledge of anything |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 11:52 AM |
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I do (have background) and the OP is spot on. |
Rosemary2205 |
May-03-08 12:01 PM |
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25 years as an emergency foster parent? Rosemary, you deserve |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 12:17 PM |
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I miss it. |
Rosemary2205 |
May-03-08 07:27 PM |
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I admire you for your work as an emergency foster parent |
NNN0LHI |
May-03-08 04:30 PM |
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You are a REAL American hero. nt |
sudopod |
May-03-08 05:42 PM |
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Read Jon Krakauer's book "Under the Banner of Heaven" |
OzarkDem |
May-03-08 12:14 PM |
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a very disturbing book.... |
dhill926 |
May-03-08 12:49 PM |
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It's all been reported in the news and is factual. |
kestrel91316 |
May-03-08 12:24 PM |
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and has anyone else noticed that they have "Reagan" hair? |
CatWoman |
May-03-08 11:54 AM |
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Another issue is this - Doctor: Birth defects increase in inbred polygamy community |
1776Forever |
May-03-08 12:08 PM |
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You're right -- that's a big issue. |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 12:13 PM |
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The sad thing is some of these parents don't even know about this illness. |
1776Forever |
May-03-08 12:18 PM |
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There is also persistent unsettling talk about how the severely |
kestrel91316 |
May-03-08 12:26 PM |
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Not to defend this pack of jackals but many children with severe |
jwirr |
May-03-08 01:22 PM |
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Word from witnesses is that they drowned the deformed babies. |
kestrel91316 |
May-03-08 02:17 PM |
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I didn't hear that, but I can't say I'm surprised. n/t |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 02:37 PM |
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I know and I believe it but I was just pointing out the natural high |
jwirr |
May-03-08 02:43 PM |
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Yeah. And given the lack of supervised perinatal care, |
kestrel91316 |
May-03-08 09:51 PM |
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Not to defend this pack of jackals but many children with severe |
jwirr |
May-03-08 01:22 PM |
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It's your basic patriarchal cult. |
smoogatz |
May-03-08 12:52 PM |
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Same reason catholics continued to take their children to Church and leave them with priests |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 01:02 PM |
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Sort of. |
smoogatz |
May-03-08 01:11 PM |
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Whatever a bunch of creeps used make believe to molest the crap out of a lot of kids |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 01:25 PM |
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Two major differences: |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 01:33 PM |
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The theology protected the priest, and the cover up was massive |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 01:42 PM |
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The theology didn't cover up the priest. Do you know what theology is? |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 01:49 PM |
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Your theology set up a patriarchal system with an elite cast possessing special powers |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 02:10 PM |
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The percent of offenders in the Catholic church has never been shown to |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 02:16 PM |
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Yes it has the catholic leauge would have you belive otherwise and the general population |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 02:26 PM |
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You're writing gibberish at this point. Forget it. n/t |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 02:28 PM |
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Your the catholic that didn't think their were many catholics in africa, that level of ignorance |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 02:33 PM |
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I didn't say there weren't many Catholics in Africa -- I said they didn't care |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 02:36 PM |
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You obviously don't know anything about Africa or the catholic church in Africa. |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 02:41 PM |
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And you're full of B.S. and bias. n/t |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 06:10 PM |
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they were pedos using religion. point to a place in any religious |
roguevalley |
May-03-08 04:03 PM |
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You mean aside from the bible right? Give the bible a break a lot of it was written in the stone-age |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 04:23 PM |
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Where does it say so in the bible? |
uppityperson |
May-03-08 04:25 PM |
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Have you ever read the bible, for a start Rebecka was 14 when she married Issac |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 04:41 PM |
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You claimed the Bible allows it, you prove it. |
uppityperson |
May-03-08 04:57 PM |
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And what was the life expectancy for women in that era? Probably |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 06:12 PM |
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Not at all the same. Lay Catholics weren't handing their children over |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 01:19 PM |
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Dude everyone knew what was going on it was rampent, people chose to close their eyes |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 01:24 PM |
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Again, no Catholic turned their child over to a priest for a "spiritual marriage." |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 01:29 PM |
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Every catholic I know knew someone who had been molested, same creeps different religion |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 01:38 PM |
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The Catholic Church is the largest single denomination in the United States, |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 01:46 PM |
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See I think it only makes sense to look at it in terms of the number of children molested. |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 01:55 PM |
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And how many FLDSers do you see who are objecting? |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 02:04 PM |
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Think about how many millions of africans won't wear condoms, talk about mind control |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 02:15 PM |
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How many Africans do you think care what the Catholic church says about |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 02:18 PM |
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The 149 million members of the catholic church there perhaps? A pattern emerges. |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 02:29 PM |
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We have millions of Catholics in the U.S., and the Catholics here are just |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 02:32 PM |
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yes and the 149 million catholics in Africa are far more devote by any measure and they tend to |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 02:36 PM |
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Oh yeah? Prove it. n/t |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 02:39 PM |
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In the last 26 years as the catholic church as a whole has shrunk* it has tripled in Africa |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 02:53 PM |
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Lies, damned lies, statistics. |
uppityperson |
May-03-08 04:13 PM |
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Doesn't change that in Africa they went from 50 mil to over 150 mil in 30 years. Th |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 04:26 PM |
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Only partially. If only part of your numbers are correct, only part are. |
uppityperson |
May-03-08 04:28 PM |
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As a % of the world population, as opposed to africa where they are growing rapidly |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 04:45 PM |
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Doesn't make them more devout, just newer. |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 06:09 PM |
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work under the guise. religion doesn't allow this. Men do. Men. |
roguevalley |
May-03-08 04:04 PM |
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No arguing that these religions weren't made up by guys, but I think perhaps the FLDS women |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 05:02 PM |
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So, in your opinion, Catholics are just as involved as FLDSers, |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 06:14 PM |
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There is a difference between a creed saying "do this" and people in the church chosing to do someth |
uppityperson |
May-03-08 04:10 PM |
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A difference that allowed them to successfully molest far more children then the FDLS ever will |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 04:57 PM |
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Lies, damned lies, statistics again. There are far more catholic kids than FLDS |
uppityperson |
May-03-08 04:59 PM |
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I guess I just see it a little differently then you do. |
LeviathanCrumbling |
May-03-08 05:27 PM |
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I agree with that, but see it further as a difference between what is |
uppityperson |
May-03-08 05:30 PM |
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this isn't about religion. this is pedophilia shrouded by religion. |
roguevalley |
May-03-08 04:02 PM |
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I've been following this. |
PDJane |
May-03-08 01:08 PM |
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These people are crazies -- but are they Jeffs' crazies? |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 01:25 PM |
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Yes and no |
Rosemary2205 |
May-03-08 01:55 PM |
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You're right, I tossed off that word too loosely. |
pnwmom |
May-03-08 02:09 PM |
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The LeBarons are in thier own wacky sect of alt.LDS....... |
kestrel91316 |
May-03-08 09:58 PM |
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Polygamist's son: "He believes that incest is going to bring back the line of Jesus Christ." |
rainbow4321 |
May-03-08 02:38 PM |
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This story was pointed out to me |
PDJane |
May-03-08 05:02 PM |
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delete, not the right topic |
uppityperson |
May-03-08 03:02 PM |
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Or Stepford wives, with some badly burned-out subunits ... nt |
eppur_se_muova |
May-03-08 10:51 PM |
#88 |
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