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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 06:11 PM
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91. Do you deny that this nation had more racial & religious discrimination then?
Forgive me if I don't get misty-eyed over an era when
blacks couldn't eat at white restaurants, and jews weren't
allowed on the golf courses.

Just spare us that "good old days" nonsense, why don't ya.
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  -Holy shit. Bibles were being distributed in my daughter's public middle school today! moc  Apr-24-08 04:28 PM   #0 
  - The little green ones the Gideons give out?  Gidney N Cloyd   Apr-24-08 04:30 PM   #1 
  - they use to be sort of a reddish brown years ago.  Thothmes   Apr-24-08 07:06 PM   #110 
  - As they would say in the Bible Belt:  Prefer   Apr-24-08 04:32 PM   #2 
  - It's the Bible Jesus would use if he were alive today.  formercia   Apr-25-08 07:14 AM   #158 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-24-08 04:32 PM   #3 
  - True, but try passing out the Torah, Book or Mormon . .  Fuzz   Apr-24-08 04:33 PM   #5 
  - Let them pass out anything they want.. people get bent out of shape over books.. amazes me...  Thepricebreaker   Apr-24-08 04:35 PM   #7 
  - Uh, no, it's illegal. nt  Bluebear   Apr-24-08 04:46 PM   #19 
  - What law makes it illegal?  bamalib   Apr-24-08 04:59 PM   #30 
  - Unconstitutional.  Bluebear   Apr-24-08 05:01 PM   #37 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-24-08 05:05 PM   #43 
     - INteresting, so you have no problem with handing out Bibles in school?  Bluebear   Apr-24-08 05:09 PM   #48 
     - LOL  Rosemary2205   Apr-24-08 05:48 PM   #86 
     - "Atheist lawyer"- is that better or worse than a "Jew lawyer" in your worldview?  dicksteele   Apr-24-08 06:13 PM   #93 
        - There you've gone and done it  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-24-08 06:27 PM   #95 
        - Yes, it would seem that I have. Sometimes, the OBVIOUS needs to be stated, even if just for effect.  dicksteele   Apr-25-08 02:49 AM   #153 
        - ..........  Bluebear   Apr-24-08 06:36 PM   #98 
        - Isn't a "Jew" lawyer just an extreme version of an atheist lawyer?  readmoreoften   Apr-25-08 02:53 AM   #154 
     - Direct violation of the establishment clause.  jazzjunkysue   Apr-24-08 10:50 PM   #147 
     - Oh, snap!  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Apr-25-08 07:51 AM   #162 
     - it would depend on the message conveyed when the Bible is distributed  marshall   Apr-25-08 03:20 PM   #195 
  - Uh, I'm pretty sure, it just went to court recently and was approved.  hootinholler   Apr-24-08 05:21 PM   #63 
  - Seems you'd not even care if they hand out kiddie porn  Robbien   Apr-24-08 04:52 PM   #24 
  - Lots of violence and filth in the Bible.  Crunchy Frog   Apr-24-08 04:56 PM   #28 
  - No, I get bent out of shape when there is no adherence to separation of church and state.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-24-08 05:03 PM   #40 
  - With each incremental step like this, the line between church & state gets increasingly blurred...  KrazyKat   Apr-24-08 05:05 PM   #41 
  - Slippery slope hysteria  spoony   Apr-24-08 05:12 PM   #50 
     - Bullshit, complete and utter.  dicksteele   Apr-24-08 05:21 PM   #61 
     - What part? Do you deny that schools had more religion in them  spoony   Apr-24-08 05:31 PM   #77 
        - Do you deny that this nation had more racial & religious discrimination then?  dicksteele   Apr-24-08 06:11 PM   #91 
           - Wow, the point must not have even appeared on your radar  spoony   Apr-24-08 06:42 PM   #99 
              - Didn't see your point on radar, but I did catch its cover spread in "Phrenology Digest".  dicksteele   Apr-25-08 02:59 AM   #155 
     - Back when women couldn't vote?  ismnotwasm   Apr-24-08 05:30 PM   #74 
     - Nice dodging, but the question is: was it a theocracy then?  spoony   Apr-24-08 05:34 PM   #79 
        - Yes, it was  Chulanowa   Apr-25-08 03:06 AM   #156 
     - So you want to return to a time when riots occured between Protestants and Catholics over...  Solon   Apr-24-08 06:47 PM   #103 
     - Read my reply (99) to your similarly impaired mate.  spoony   Apr-24-08 06:53 PM   #108 
        - Technically the country, more through custom than law, though that happened too, was theocratic...  Solon   Apr-24-08 07:14 PM   #112 
     - I was forced to stand up in front of my homeroom class in 10th grade  tblue37   Apr-25-08 07:28 AM   #159 
     - How the heck would your teacher  Dorian Gray   Apr-25-08 08:03 AM   #165 
     - We lived in the same small town. He was suspicious because I never showed up in  tblue37   Apr-25-08 11:15 AM   #185 
        - He sounds like a total  Dorian Gray   Apr-25-08 01:24 PM   #188 
        - He sounds like a total  Dorian Gray   Apr-25-08 01:25 PM   #189 
     - Thank you for your post.....  OwnedByFerrets   Apr-25-08 09:09 AM   #173 
     - you are so wrong my friend. so wrong.  spanone   Apr-25-08 09:12 AM   #174 
  - Why do you hate the Constitution??? n/t  DeSwiss   Apr-24-08 08:06 PM   #118 
  - oh please. give me a break.  orleans   Apr-24-08 10:03 PM   #142 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-24-08 05:03 PM   #39 
     - 'Atheists are so intolerant.' bwahahaha, you poor thing. nt  Bluebear   Apr-24-08 05:22 PM   #65 
     - You're on the wrong board with that "Atheists are so intolerant" crap. nm  dicksteele   Apr-24-08 05:23 PM   #66 
     - Or maybe the poster wandered into R/T  spoony   Apr-24-08 05:35 PM   #80 
     - I thought being intolerant of LAWBREAKING was a GOOD thing? -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-24-08 06:01 PM   #88 
     - Pssssst....not everyone who knows that this is Unconstitutional and also knows that there  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-24-08 06:24 PM   #94 
        - Thanks for illustrating that point  Echo In Light   Apr-25-08 07:35 AM   #160 
  - Its illegal and against the law, but you don't care about that do you?  Ichingcarpenter   Apr-24-08 04:36 PM   #9 
  - There are higher priorities on that very long list  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 04:44 PM   #15 
  - NO! Giving them out in a public school is illegal, period. It seems you have a  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-24-08 04:59 PM   #31 
  - I think you mean I have "A" problem with the separation of C & S  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 05:13 PM   #51 
     - Please stop the bullshit with baiting by the fundies. The fundies aren't baiting, they want  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-24-08 05:17 PM   #55 
     - 44 is interesting reading, but the SCOTUS has changed since '02  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 05:31 PM   #76 
        - If/Until SCOTUS addresses this, allowing bibles to be distributed in Public Schools  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-24-08 05:38 PM   #81 
     - You don't seem to have a problem with policing grammar. Correction made.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-24-08 05:19 PM   #58 
     - Well, since you like to correct others:  Ghost in the Machine   Apr-24-08 08:57 PM   #132 
        - DAMN! Now I have to get into the fish tank and sing.  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 09:06 PM   #134 
           - LOL! Will you sell tickets?  Ghost in the Machine   Apr-24-08 10:14 PM   #146 
  - How is that relatable?  Gilligan   Apr-24-08 05:05 PM   #42 
     - Handing out a book isn't proselytizing  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 05:24 PM   #69 
        - So...  Gilligan   Apr-24-08 06:06 PM   #89 
        - I understand the point -- I just don't agree that it is as big a deal as you do  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 06:12 PM   #92 
           - Are you hard of hearing?  Gilligan   Apr-25-08 07:55 AM   #164 
        - OmahaBlueDog  Diclotican   Apr-24-08 07:11 PM   #111 
        - Diclotican  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 09:28 PM   #135 
        - I suspect that Omahbluedog  Dorian Gray   Apr-25-08 08:13 AM   #166 
        - "Tomorrow's assignment: The Book Of Wiccan. "  jazzjunkysue   Apr-24-08 10:56 PM   #148 
        - Bibles and condoms seem to have the same thing in common here  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-25-08 12:41 AM   #151 
           - Handing out condoms at school is legal, handing out bibles is not.  haymakeragain   Apr-25-08 06:15 PM   #199 
        - it is proselytizing n/t  barbtries   Apr-25-08 04:54 AM   #157 
  - The decision you cited is in the 8th circuit.  bamalib   Apr-24-08 04:58 PM   #29 
  - The 5th circuit and the Supreme court have already ruled on this.  Ichingcarpenter   Apr-24-08 05:05 PM   #44 
     - Not true. The bulletin you link to talks about a 7th circuit decision  bamalib   Apr-24-08 08:34 PM   #127 
  - Illegal AND against the law  spoony   Apr-24-08 05:00 PM   #32 
  - bible  Parche   Apr-24-08 04:37 PM   # 
  - I worry about anyone who  brandnewlaptop   Apr-24-08 04:41 PM   #13 
  - it would also be illegal for public teachers to be recruiting for gangs and distributing drugs  enki23   Apr-24-08 04:47 PM   #20 
  - Mixing religion in government is okay with you?  Husb2Sparkly   Apr-24-08 04:48 PM   #21 
  - Last time I looked, it was Unconstitutional..illegal. And who says we can't multi task and be  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-24-08 04:56 PM   #27 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-24-08 05:11 PM   #49 
  - Please cite where in the Constitution it says anything about  spoony   Apr-24-08 05:15 PM   #52 
     - The First Amendment.  Bornaginhooligan   Apr-24-08 05:19 PM   #59 
        - Congress is not involved in handing out Bibles in the school.  spoony   Apr-24-08 05:23 PM   #67 
           - No, they're involved in forcing children to attend schools.  Bornaginhooligan   Apr-24-08 05:25 PM   #70 
              - And? The First deals with their actions. What is handed out  spoony   Apr-24-08 05:30 PM   #75 
                 - Read post #44.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-24-08 06:29 PM   #96 
                    - Not really talking about court cases  spoony   Apr-24-08 06:44 PM   #100 
                       - What problem do you have with the separation of church and state? Separation  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-24-08 07:25 PM   #113 
  - I say put gangs and drugs back in the schools.  Bornaginhooligan   Apr-24-08 05:16 PM   #53 
     - This is exactly what the ignore list is for. Gonna miss you. Bye!  jazzjunkysue   Apr-24-08 10:57 PM   #149 
        - Lol! You just put "ignored" on ignore!  Lorien   Apr-25-08 09:59 AM   #177 
           - Too funny. I don't put HRC supposrters on ignore, just morons like this one.  jazzjunkysue   Apr-25-08 02:09 PM   #191 
              - Well, since I'm a fan of neither candidate, I'm sure that they  Lorien   Apr-25-08 03:28 PM   #196 
  - I would set up a Koran...  Hell Hath No Fury   Apr-24-08 04:32 PM   #4 
  - So go for it.  bamalib   Apr-24-08 05:00 PM   #35 
     - Being from California I am not sure...  Hell Hath No Fury   Apr-24-08 05:19 PM   #56 
  - are they going to give out the Qu'ran and Torah's as well or just bibles?  chimpsrsmarter   Apr-24-08 04:34 PM   #6 
  - Could you imagine if they started to distribute The Book Of Shadows? They might get some  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-24-08 05:07 PM   #45 
  - Isn't the Torah mostly what Christians call the Old Testament?  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 09:31 PM   #136 
     - The Torah is only the first five books of the Old Testament, written down  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-25-08 11:01 AM   #182 
  - Nevermind. everyone else said it. Do you want us to email them also? nt  Ilsa   Apr-24-08 04:35 PM   #8 
  - Here's the cure: Demand that they also distribute copies of  kestrel91316   Apr-24-08 04:37 PM   #10 
  - ACLU has won this case many times  Ichingcarpenter   Apr-24-08 04:38 PM   # 
  - * They did not win with the current court  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 06:47 PM   #102 
  - So now will they allow Atheists to visit the school and speak their views?  lpbk2713   Apr-24-08 04:38 PM   #11 
  - They do allow the views of Atheists -- just read the science or sex-ed texts  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 05:02 PM   #38 
     - Any book which does not specifically mention that God exists..  Fumesucker   Apr-24-08 05:22 PM   #64 
        - I believe the technical answer is...  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 05:26 PM   #72 
  - Contact Freedrom From Religion Foundation for legal help if they don't stop.  no_hypocrisy   Apr-24-08 04:40 PM   #12 
  - You do realize we're being baited, yes??  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 04:50 PM   #23 
     - Far better to just ignore lawbreaking..  Fumesucker   Apr-24-08 04:53 PM   #25 
     - There are ways to respond that don't involve walking into the trap  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 05:00 PM   #33 
        - Yes, we need to lock up all the dopers  Fumesucker   Apr-24-08 05:20 PM   #60 
           - After the murderers and rapists, the next groups I'd like to see suffer would be  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 05:28 PM   #73 
     - Yes, we should always abandon our principles when the other side doesn't like them!  FiveGoodMen   Apr-24-08 05:21 PM   #62 
     - OK, Let's just say  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 05:42 PM   #82 
        - The way to counter law breaking  Fumesucker   Apr-24-08 06:07 PM   #90 
           - As I said earlier, I don't think any laws were broken here...  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 06:45 PM   #101 
     - If bibles weren't shoved down the throats of impressionable elementary school children..  RedCappedBandit   Apr-24-08 08:02 PM   #117 
        - There are people of faith on both sides of the aisle  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 09:37 PM   #138 
        - I agree, but..  RedCappedBandit   Apr-24-08 10:07 PM   #143 
        - Since it seems obvious that the Neo-Con Fundies  StephenB48   Apr-24-08 09:48 PM   #140 
           - there is more to the bible than loving thy neighbor  RedCappedBandit   Apr-24-08 10:08 PM   #144 
  - Contact Americans United  IanDB1   Apr-24-08 04:44 PM   #14 
  - In what context? Bibles can be useful for literary allusions since Biblical allusions permeate  Zynx   Apr-24-08 04:46 PM   #16 
  - Please don't inject logic into a good old fashioned religious hatefest  WildEyedLiberal   Apr-24-08 04:53 PM   #26 
     - Plano, Texas..  Fumesucker   Apr-24-08 05:01 PM   #36 
  - I was wondering what all those books were doing in the gutter!!  dkofos   Apr-24-08 04:46 PM   #17 
  - They were probably being handed out on public property ADJACENT to the school  Romulox   Apr-24-08 04:46 PM   #18 
  - No issue at all with handing them out adjacent to the school  Indenturedebtor   Apr-24-08 05:24 PM   #68 
  - it would be funny to see people handing out marxist books adjacent to a school  AlphaCentauri   Apr-24-08 08:27 PM   #125 
     - I used to get MIM Notes handed to me on the campus of U of M ALL THE TIME!  Romulox   Apr-25-08 09:04 AM   #171 
        - That was not an elementary or middle school  AlphaCentauri   Apr-25-08 09:56 AM   #176 
           - Fair point. I don't think the legality turns on the level of the school involved though. nt  Romulox   Apr-25-08 10:08 AM   #180 
              - I'm pretty sure it does. K-12 is mandated education. College isn't.  FiveGoodMen   Apr-25-08 04:39 PM   #197 
  - I'll keep on the alert for similar action in Cleburne ISD. Could  Texas Explorer   Apr-24-08 04:48 PM   #22 
  - I remember when  Serenades   Apr-24-08 05:00 PM   #34 
  - As Mark Twain said:  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-24-08 05:08 PM   #46 
  - Big deal. They used to distribute Spaghetti in my school  GoesTo11   Apr-24-08 05:09 PM   #47 
  - ............... which equates to bibles ............. how, exactly?  Husb2Sparkly   Apr-24-08 05:17 PM   #54 
     - Become enlightened  GoesTo11   Apr-24-08 05:26 PM   #71 
        - I'm fairly certain the whole Flying Spaghetti Monster farce was lost on you.  FarceOfNature   Apr-24-08 05:34 PM   #78 
  - There Is NOTHING HOLY....  zorahopkins   Apr-24-08 05:19 PM   #57 
  - I hope that students allowed to decline the bibles  anselmo   Apr-24-08 05:43 PM   #83 
  - to ANYONE thinking this is "not a big deal"  FarceOfNature   Apr-24-08 05:45 PM   #84 
  - I'd agree if they were actually being TAUGHT a theology  spoony   Apr-24-08 06:47 PM   #104 
  - Can I hear an "Amen!?" Exactly the point. If we have prayer in school,  jazzjunkysue   Apr-25-08 02:13 PM   #192 
  - I got no problem with handking bibles in Schools ...IF  dixiegrrrrl   Apr-24-08 05:48 PM   #85 
  - THIS is the only Bible that should be handed out in schools:  HughBeaumont   Apr-24-08 05:54 PM   #87 
  - X days ah comin' and the pinks are a bummin'....JR's the best  ileus   Apr-24-08 08:45 PM   #129 
  - Does it include the Old Testament?  Cleita   Apr-24-08 06:36 PM   #97 
  - My point exactly  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-24-08 06:49 PM   #106 
  - and violence, crimes, genocides, war and greed  AlphaCentauri   Apr-24-08 08:30 PM   #126 
  - they were handing them out on the sidewalk in front of my son HS yesterday  notadmblnd   Apr-24-08 06:48 PM   #105 
  - UPDATE: As it turns out, it's not illegal.  moc   Apr-24-08 06:52 PM   #107 
  - Sounds like the excuse is BS, personally...  Solon   Apr-24-08 06:58 PM   #109 
  - I suggest that you still call the ACLU. I am sure the ACLU would love to hear from you on this.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-24-08 07:41 PM   #114 
  - "have to allow distribution... as long as it doesn't include anything about drugs or violence"?  NuttyFluffers   Apr-24-08 07:47 PM   #115 
  - If the Bibles being distributed have the Old Testament..  Fumesucker   Apr-24-08 08:19 PM   #120 
  - I would not take her word for it being legal.  Lars39   Apr-24-08 08:24 PM   #124 
  - Ask her that you would like to distribute The Communist Manifesto  AlphaCentauri   Apr-24-08 08:34 PM   #128 
  - I think she's BS'ing you -- previous cases have ruled that they CANNOT be handed out on school  kath   Apr-24-08 08:52 PM   #131 
  - I wonder how they would feel about "the God delusion" by Richard Dawkins?  Lorien   Apr-25-08 10:05 AM   #179 
  - I *bet* you're proud of your daughter!  renate   Apr-25-08 01:29 PM   #190 
  - Holy Holy Shit!! Wholly improper and probably illegal. But, who will be fired?  L. Coyote   Apr-24-08 08:01 PM   #116 
  - bibles should not appear in public facilities such as a school period  GetTheRightVote   Apr-24-08 08:15 PM   #119 
  - Considering how frequently biblical verses appear, I think at least a copy should be on hand  Zynx   Apr-25-08 01:55 AM   #152 
  - I agree... AND  BigDaddy44   Apr-25-08 07:53 AM   #163 
  - Bibles should only be distributed in school if it's to study it as literature. I'd be pissed!  krabigirl   Apr-24-08 08:20 PM   #121 
  - alot of schools do this  iamthebandfanman   Apr-24-08 08:21 PM   #122 
  - Too bad our public education doesn't teach critical thinking -  kineta   Apr-24-08 08:21 PM   #123 
  - Who distributed exactly what, where, and to whom?  LWolf   Apr-24-08 08:51 PM   #130 
  - Yoikes! nt  JerseygirlCT   Apr-24-08 08:57 PM   #133 
  - is it IN the school, or outside, on sidewalk. i am in texas and i have had  seabeyond   Apr-24-08 09:36 PM   #137 
  - I think it is Joe Smith and he is the charlatan that founded the Mormons.  greyhound1966   Apr-24-08 09:46 PM   #139 
  - Here's an interesting follow-up on the "backpack mail" controversy in VA a few years back --  kath   Apr-24-08 09:59 PM   #141 
  - Oh, fer crying out loud  Art_from_Ark   Apr-24-08 10:11 PM   #145 
  - My sentiments also.  truedelphi   Apr-25-08 11:31 AM   #186 
  - i think thats where mine is ;) n/t  iamthebandfanman   Apr-25-08 06:44 PM   #200 
  - were they technically on school grounds?  mcctatas   Apr-24-08 10:58 PM   #150 
  - here where I live we don't have enough text books for all the kids  klyon   Apr-25-08 07:48 AM   #161 
  - I really doubt the school funded this.  AngryOldDem   Apr-25-08 08:54 AM   #170 
  - So What ?  Galway girl   Apr-25-08 08:14 AM   #167 
  - Thanks for your CONCERN: "Dems complaining about this kinda shit loses us elections"  dicksteele   Apr-25-08 10:04 AM   #178 
  - You're right . There's nothing wrong with handing out free Bibles  Gormy Cuss   Apr-25-08 11:09 AM   #184 
  - Dems refusing to oppose this kinda shit loses us the Bill of Rights  FiveGoodMen   Apr-25-08 03:01 PM   #194 
  - Oh please. People need to save their outrage for something more important.  antfarm   Apr-25-08 08:23 AM   #168 
  - Thank you  shrike   Apr-25-08 09:09 AM   #172 
  - Tell your kids to JUST. SAY. NO.  AngryOldDem   Apr-25-08 08:51 AM   #169 
  - Look, some of us believe in defending the Constitution and our Constitutional rights.  Mountainman   Apr-25-08 10:10 AM   #181 
     - but moc never came back to clarify if this was outside of school. before outrage  seabeyond   Apr-25-08 02:14 PM   #193 
  - I hope they added a disclaimer, "This book is entirely fiction"  MessiahRp   Apr-25-08 09:18 AM   #175 
  - What did you expect? You're living out in the provinces.  Aristus   Apr-25-08 11:03 AM   #183 
  - Tell her to do what I do  ginbarn   Apr-25-08 11:59 AM   #187 
  - What exactly happened?  residentfan   Apr-25-08 05:36 PM   #198 

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