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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 08:22 PM
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24. I'm not upset with you, bobbolink,
when I put a proposition out there, I'm looking for criticism along with affirmation, as I stated above, I don't have all the answers, but that's what I believe the Internet works well as, a pooling place of ideas and you can't have an action before you have an idea.

I understand you're on the front line of harsh reality now, and I don't want to come across as cold, but I want that number reduced, so some of these ideas such as the gardens may or may not apply to everyone. Having said that if it keeps more people off the street and fewer dependent on going to food banks and competing for limited resources, wouldn't that be of some help to the homeless even if in an indirect way?

But to answer your questions, here goes.

1. Regarding the disabled or ill, maybe the tax laws can be changed to give a tax credit or subsidy to those that can work gardens and use some of the produce toward feeding the disabled or ill in their neighborhoods.

2. Regarding those not making it at all, again the tax laws can be changed to give a credit for seed, supplies purchase of vacant or unused lots, maybe even labor. If local stores purchased maybe 10%-15% of the produce and sold it, the profits could go in to a fund to help cover the ongoing cost. After so many years, maybe the tax credit could be reduced as the fund grows.

3. Regarding child care and single parents, the communities need to pull together and help one another, maybe the gardens could spark that dynamic and give them a common ground. If someone isn't physically able to work a garden, maybe they could babysit for someone who can. This could be their contribution. For people working two or three jobs, maybe a tax credit could be given to their employer to pay their employees to work the gardens instead.

4. Regarding the old, answer number one for the disabled and sick could apply to them as well.

5. Regarding communities with no gardens, I believe tax credits could be given to banks or credit unions to finance the start up costs.

I see two other side benefit for the poor having gardens.

1. The poor have the worst nutrition, high in fat and sugar, low in fiber not able to afford good food. I believe there would be fewer sick and ill should their nutrition improve with more fresh vegetables and or fruit which is high in fiber.

2. The other is exercise from working gardens, not all but many poor suffer from diabetes and being overweight and thus lead sedentary lives, lacking energy because they don't have the calories to burn.

As I said at the very beginning, I don't have all the answers, however I believe the more this can adopted as a national strategy to combat poverty and hunger, the better off everyone will be and that most certainly includes the poor and homeless.

One other point you said no one is listening to your ideas, if you have any suggestions or criticism or some other idea, I haven't thought of, I'm listening and my feelings wont get hurt.

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  -The Hidden Battle to Control the World's Food Supply Pharaoh  Apr-22-08 11:31 AM   #0 
  - Is my understanding correct that these GM seeds sold by  NCevilDUer   Apr-22-08 11:38 AM   #1 
  - only some of the GM seed was the "terminator seed"-yes, farmers are NOT allowed to SAVE seed  fed-up   Apr-22-08 11:59 AM   #3 
     - Success story - Percy Schmeiser vs. Monsanto  klook   Apr-22-08 03:43 PM   #6 
     - Check how many YEARS that took  Karenina   Apr-22-08 04:57 PM   #9 
     - Right here..............  Pharaoh   Apr-22-08 05:30 PM   #11 
     - Thank you!  ColbertWatcher   Apr-23-08 09:34 PM   #18 
  - I believe everyone should start growing gardens, whether in the city or not.  Uncle Joe   Apr-22-08 11:41 AM   #2 
  - right away, sir. We homeless people can plant gardens in our car glove compartment.  bobbolink   Apr-22-08 05:32 PM   #12 
     - Who's to say the homeless can't partake in a community sponsored garden  Uncle Joe   Apr-23-08 09:09 PM   #17 
        - Walk in my shoes.  bobbolink   Apr-24-08 03:57 PM   #21 
           - I just asked for your ideas.  Uncle Joe   Apr-24-08 04:15 PM   #22 
              - "My proposal of community gardens was intended to help everyone"  bobbolink   Apr-24-08 07:33 PM   #23 
                 - I'm not upset with you, bobbolink,  Uncle Joe   Apr-24-08 08:22 PM   #24 
                    - Again, I will say, try walking in my shoes.  bobbolink   Apr-24-08 08:56 PM   #25 
                       - I have no doubt walking in your shoes  Uncle Joe   Apr-24-08 09:10 PM   #26 
  - Hidden? Monsanto has been BRAZEN for years  Karenina   Apr-22-08 01:45 PM   #4 
  - The Proles aren't the problem  Hydra   Apr-22-08 03:34 PM   #5 
     - I read sometime back that  Karenina   Apr-22-08 03:46 PM   #7 
     - You've got it  Hydra   Apr-22-08 04:13 PM   #8 
        - Bingo!  Karenina   Apr-22-08 04:58 PM   #10 
        - "You can bet they'll want more than money "  bobbolink   Apr-22-08 05:33 PM   #13 
           - How about compliance  Hydra   Apr-22-08 06:03 PM   #14 
              - At the least. That feeling of power is seductive.  bobbolink   Apr-23-08 11:39 AM   #15 
     - Agreed.  ColbertWatcher   Apr-23-08 09:37 PM   #19 
        - That's an awesome article  Hydra   Apr-24-08 11:00 AM   #20 
  - Excellent article  underpants   Apr-23-08 11:55 AM   #16 

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