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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:00 PM
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32. The fire hazard it would cause? I don't recall any planes going up in flames when it wasn't banned.
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  -Question for people who support smoking bans.... Fountain79  Apr-14-08 10:18 PM   #0 
  - Fear of the unknown, fear of change.  Pisces   Apr-14-08 10:20 PM   #1 
  - Haven't small business owners already gotten through that first fear?  Fountain79   Apr-14-08 10:23 PM   #3 
  - Tha fact is that they don't. That's why nonsmokers didn't build their own Bars and Restaurants.  Wizard777   Apr-14-08 10:23 PM   #2 
  - I'm not sure they could have  Mz Pip   Apr-14-08 10:47 PM   #19 
     - What public business are you speaking of? n/t  Fountain79   Apr-14-08 11:00 PM   #31 
     - Restaurants  Mz Pip   Apr-14-08 11:03 PM   #35 
        - You mean a privately owned business that is open to the public? n/t  Fountain79   Apr-14-08 11:04 PM   #36 
     - Property rights. Something doesn't have to be illegal for you to ban it from your property.  Wizard777   Apr-14-08 11:24 PM   #48 
        - Sort of like the  Mz Pip   Apr-14-08 11:26 PM   #49 
           - Sorta. That actually enforces health code. So technically it's illegal.  Wizard777   Apr-14-08 11:43 PM   #52 
  - That is what was happening in Arkadelphia,  roody   Apr-14-08 10:25 PM   #4 
  - But the government still got involved right?  Fountain79   Apr-14-08 10:27 PM   #6 
     - They did it for me so I could enjoy more restaurants.  roody   Apr-14-08 11:23 PM   #47 
  - It's been my  Mz Pip   Apr-14-08 10:26 PM   #5 
  - It's been my experience...  Fountain79   Apr-14-08 10:30 PM   #9 
     - Yeah, but sometimes  Mz Pip   Apr-14-08 10:38 PM   #13 
        - Then why not offer tax incentives, cheaper liscensing fees, etc?  Fountain79   Apr-14-08 10:40 PM   #15 
           - Maybe it's a question  Mz Pip   Apr-14-08 10:48 PM   #21 
              - What? could you please explain? n/t  Fountain79   Apr-14-08 11:06 PM   #37 
                 - Here's a bit of history on them  Mz Pip   Apr-14-08 11:17 PM   #42 
  - Businesses don't do anything unless they have an advantage or are forced.  LiberalFighter   Apr-14-08 10:28 PM   #7 
  - Or maybe the ones that rely on smokers as their primary clientele  Fountain79   Apr-14-08 10:32 PM   #10 
  - Smoking ban passed in WA....  FlyingSquirrel   Apr-14-08 10:29 PM   #8 
  - I'll admit....  Fountain79   Apr-14-08 10:34 PM   #12 
  - Public health issues are things that government should rightly control.  merwin   Apr-14-08 10:41 PM   #16 
     - I love false analogies....  Fountain79   Apr-14-08 10:48 PM   #20 
     - And someone's smoking directly affects a lot more than just the smoker in the bar.  merwin   Apr-14-08 10:51 PM   #25 
        - Well...  Fountain79   Apr-14-08 10:56 PM   #29 
           - The fire hazard it would cause? I don't recall any planes going up in flames when it wasn't banned.  merwin   Apr-14-08 11:00 PM   #32 
              - The Straight Story had an interesting point....  Fountain79   Apr-14-08 11:03 PM   #34 
     - How does one define public health and where does it end in punishing those that don't agree?  The Straight Story   Apr-14-08 10:55 PM   #28 
     - "drunking driving"  alcibiades_mystery   Apr-15-08 12:24 AM   #57 
     - No you can't  dmallind   Apr-15-08 06:09 AM   #60 
     - My Doctors says there is a word for people who take health advice from the government.  Wizard777   Apr-14-08 11:27 PM   #50 
        - Are you arguing that smoking is GOOD for you?  merwin   Apr-14-08 11:45 PM   #53 
           - No. But I can't empirically say it's bad for me either.  Wizard777   Apr-15-08 12:09 AM   #55 
  - Well, maybe they adjusted like they did in Ohio (and even in CA)  The Straight Story   Apr-14-08 10:40 PM   #14 
     - The smoking ban worked very well in WA.  merwin   Apr-14-08 10:42 PM   #18 
     - Banning always works well  The Straight Story   Apr-14-08 10:49 PM   #22 
        - Sometimes there is an overwhelming public health issue involved.  merwin   Apr-14-08 10:54 PM   #27 
           - See my previous post, and to re-iterate  The Straight Story   Apr-14-08 10:57 PM   #30 
              - What if you're a non-smoker who's chosen the profession of  FlyingSquirrel   Apr-14-08 11:13 PM   #40 
                 - I worked as a bouncer actually....  Fountain79   Apr-14-08 11:18 PM   #43 
                 - Wait - you mean you had a CHOICE?????  The Straight Story   Apr-14-08 11:20 PM   #46 
                    - In fairness...  Fountain79   Apr-15-08 12:15 AM   #56 
                 - If you really want to protect the health of all workers than BAN those things too  The Straight Story   Apr-14-08 11:19 PM   #44 
     - Haven't seen that happening here.  FlyingSquirrel   Apr-14-08 11:09 PM   #39 
  - Perhaps the deeper question is:  The Straight Story   Apr-14-08 10:33 PM   #11 
  - Those who know  DiktatrW   Apr-14-08 10:50 PM   #24 
     - Yes indeed. I feel safer myself knowing that bush is saving me from Iraq  The Straight Story   Apr-14-08 11:01 PM   #33 
  - Let's get rid of the Health Department!  gratuitous   Apr-14-08 10:42 PM   #17 
  - Oh...hyperbole..  Fountain79   Apr-14-08 10:52 PM   #26 
  - Hyperbole?  gratuitous   Apr-14-08 11:08 PM   #38 
  - A message from the Health Dept to you:  The Straight Story   Apr-14-08 11:14 PM   #41 
  - Good point.  SteinbachMB   Apr-14-08 10:50 PM   #23 
  - they do  pop goes the weasel   Apr-14-08 11:20 PM   #45 
  - Why do you think that economic condition (A) is better than (B)?  wuushew   Apr-14-08 11:36 PM   #51 
  - I always like to point out  SheilaT   Apr-14-08 11:58 PM   #54 
  - It's much easier to enforce a non-smoking policy if the law is on your side  quantessd   Apr-15-08 12:42 AM   #58 
  - One for all, all for one  krispos42   Apr-15-08 01:02 AM   #59 
  - The answer is an easy one...  susankh4   Apr-15-08 06:23 AM   #61 

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