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Sat Apr-12-08 01:51 AM
Response to Reply #43 |
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Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 02:06 AM by Juche
I really don't mean to denigrate service sector workers or anything. I just feel upset that so much human talent is being wasted both at home and abroad.
Even people who land 'good jobs' can and do end up seeing their talents wasted. So much of what we spend our money and attention on is just a petty attempt to 1 up the joneses. People who could be fighting cancer or alzheimers end up trying to add a few atoms to prozac so the patent won't expire even though things like magnesium supplements or omega 3s are more effective against depression anyway.
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| -Where does $10/hr rate economically? |
TwixVoy |
Apr-12-08 12:26 AM |
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It rates no where... and many earning that can still be homeless |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 12:30 AM |
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10 dollars an hour was 1980 wages. . . . and that was in the midwest. |
B Calm |
Apr-12-08 12:32 AM |
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Yet those same people pay Fed. & State income taxes and that's BELOW the poverty line!! |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 12:33 AM |
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Snort |
Rosemary2205 |
Apr-13-08 07:22 PM |
#166 |
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Welcome to DU, TwixVoy! |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 12:32 AM |
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I get by on 10 bucks an hour |
Mojambo |
Apr-12-08 12:33 AM |
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do you pay for things like health insurance ? |
JI7 |
Apr-12-08 12:58 AM |
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Of course not! |
Mojambo |
Apr-12-08 01:06 AM |
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rofllmfao!! |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 01:22 AM |
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No, you cannot live on $10 an hr. |
juajen |
Apr-12-08 12:38 AM |
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Yes you can.... |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 12:43 AM |
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thousands die for Lack of Health Insurance |
G_j |
Apr-12-08 10:07 AM |
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and every one of our politiwhores that refuses to support the single-payer |
greyhound1966 |
Apr-12-08 10:43 AM |
#84 |
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Why are there so many people without insurance? |
Codedonkey |
Apr-13-08 11:15 AM |
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If you have a pre-existing condition, you usually can't get insurance at all. |
Lars39 |
Apr-13-08 11:23 AM |
#143 |
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I'm a contractor |
XOKCowboy |
Apr-13-08 08:00 PM |
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Lots of jobs don't offer it. 50% of the workers where I work are part-time, |
raccoon |
Apr-14-08 08:18 AM |
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Depends on where and how you live, but you sure can. n/t |
Mojambo |
Apr-12-08 01:07 AM |
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Median family income by state |
SparkyMac |
Apr-12-08 06:42 AM |
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A signle person w/o kids here in Austin,TX could do it... |
Codedonkey |
Apr-13-08 11:11 AM |
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Well, I guess that depends |
The Straight Story |
Apr-12-08 12:38 AM |
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I make $10...part time... |
Journalgrrl |
Apr-12-08 12:39 AM |
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You go girl!!! |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 12:45 AM |
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I'm 59. When I was in high school |
anotheryellowdog |
Apr-12-08 12:41 AM |
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half the jobs pay less than $15/hr |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 12:47 AM |
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You aren't alone, Juche |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 12:53 AM |
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Yeah |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 12:54 AM |
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I moved 3000 miles away from ALL my family |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 01:10 AM |
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How do you do that |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 01:14 AM |
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I drove with a friend and took a CHANCE!!! |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 01:19 AM |
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I am not sure |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 01:22 AM |
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A BS in Chemistry? Why the hell aren't you heading East? - "Go East, Young person!!" |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 01:35 AM |
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West coast too |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 01:39 AM |
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Yeah but Cali. has earthquakes - we just have snow and the ocean and skiing! |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 01:41 AM |
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Cali is expensive to live too! I went to HS in Cali and HATE - |
axollot |
Apr-14-08 11:17 AM |
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Most of those jobs do not exist. |
greyhound1966 |
Apr-12-08 10:50 AM |
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Not always |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 12:16 PM |
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Of course not always. The point is that the whole area has become a morass |
greyhound1966 |
Apr-12-08 12:55 PM |
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Well fucking put mate and damn scary too! n/t |
axollot |
Apr-14-08 11:20 AM |
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Get a PhD or teach. |
GaYellowDawg |
Apr-12-08 04:25 PM |
#103 |
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PhDs are a bad idea |
Juche |
Apr-13-08 03:23 AM |
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The reality of the job market... |
Baby Snooks |
Apr-13-08 04:25 PM |
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Double post |
Juche |
Apr-13-08 03:23 AM |
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It's a bitch. |
anotheryellowdog |
Apr-12-08 01:02 AM |
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I know |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 01:12 AM |
#28 |
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The well educated voted for the Repukes and now they sit in their own shit.... |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 01:24 AM |
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Depends |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 01:30 AM |
#36 |
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People who have PhD's vote Dem and also the poor but not across the country! |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 01:49 AM |
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Political discussions in my family get heated |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 01:57 AM |
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I hear you... sounds like you need to move to .... |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 02:14 AM |
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Wow, I'm sorry you're surrounded....I can count myself lucky - |
axollot |
Apr-14-08 12:10 PM |
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A lot of us dropped out of the rat race.. |
girl gone mad |
Apr-12-08 01:41 AM |
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So, ... with all that education, you just "gave up" because it was 'to hard'?? |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 01:53 AM |
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Amen |
Progressive_In_NC |
Apr-12-08 10:02 AM |
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Only 20 hours? |
Codedonkey |
Apr-13-08 11:19 AM |
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No, I work 55 hours a week and then I put in 20 hours of personal development time |
Progressive_In_NC |
Apr-14-08 09:52 AM |
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Screw that... |
Codedonkey |
Apr-13-08 11:20 AM |
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Re: "In college I did research on treating cancer..." |
anotheryellowdog |
Apr-12-08 01:46 AM |
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Yeah I can do that |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 01:51 AM |
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Re: "People who could be fighting cancer or Alzheimer's end up..." |
anotheryellowdog |
Apr-12-08 02:10 AM |
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Yes!!!! I would put myself in the same category |
conflictgirl |
Apr-12-08 02:07 AM |
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No, this crap started 30+ years ago, and it's ALL gotten worse. |
TheGoldenRule |
Apr-12-08 02:19 AM |
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US Dollar DOWN!! |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 02:22 AM |
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Very very true. |
Perragrande |
Apr-13-08 03:37 AM |
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I'm a Bio major who works in the food processing industry |
Nikia |
Apr-13-08 10:35 AM |
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hah, I wonder how much places like manpower are getting for your time... |
Codedonkey |
Apr-13-08 11:17 AM |
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My son works in a grocery store and makes $9.50 per hour.... |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 12:50 AM |
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I'm 76. I can remember when Dad got this great high paying job. |
Wizard777 |
Apr-12-08 02:14 AM |
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You hot ticket! |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 02:20 AM |
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More like the better old days. I was born on the tail end of the great depression. |
Wizard777 |
Apr-12-08 03:06 AM |
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Ain't it the truth! |
anotheryellowdog |
Apr-12-08 02:27 AM |
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We also had savings and durable goods. Not this cheap disposable Walmart crap on a stick. |
Wizard777 |
Apr-12-08 03:17 AM |
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Of course! |
anotheryellowdog |
Apr-12-08 03:27 AM |
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Still running in the house my parents built in1939 is their 1939 refrigerator! |
kittykitty |
Apr-12-08 04:45 PM |
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Where, pray tell... |
WillowTree |
Apr-12-08 04:28 AM |
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1976? Well aren't you sweet. Try 1931. |
Wizard777 |
Apr-12-08 09:41 AM |
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Did you have a garden... |
XOKCowboy |
Apr-13-08 08:30 PM |
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Well the fact that every "undocumented" day laborer can speak only "$10/hr" go figure. |
thunder rising |
Apr-12-08 12:44 AM |
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Its plenty to get by with if you dont have a house, but own a decent vehicle |
CRF450 |
Apr-12-08 12:53 AM |
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It is liveable yes |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 01:00 AM |
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I own my own home, but if I was to live a apartment or any house I could rent |
CRF450 |
Apr-12-08 01:52 AM |
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If you earned $10.00 per hour, you wouldn't be renting in the country... |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 02:25 AM |
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Details... |
CRF450 |
Apr-12-08 03:32 AM |
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In some rural areas, rent is low |
Nikia |
Apr-13-08 10:57 AM |
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Exactly |
CRF450 |
Apr-13-08 08:57 PM |
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That describes me perfectly |
Mojambo |
Apr-12-08 01:08 AM |
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My job is 60 miles away but I stay at my aunt's camper.... |
CRF450 |
Apr-12-08 01:43 AM |
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Depends on where you live, benefits, your debts, and how regular the work. |
Jed Dilligan |
Apr-12-08 12:54 AM |
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No One gets "benefits" at $10.00 an hour.... |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 01:15 AM |
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Actually some companies such as Lowes offer good benefits. |
CRF450 |
Apr-12-08 01:35 AM |
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That is a huge exception. nowadays.... |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 01:56 AM |
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I know what your saying |
CRF450 |
Apr-12-08 02:01 AM |
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I supervise two employees who each make $10.25/hr. |
fifthgendem |
Apr-12-08 10:23 AM |
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Exactly. But supposing you did work F/T at 10 an hour, |
Jed Dilligan |
Apr-12-08 11:36 AM |
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White Castle claims to. |
TheFriendlyAnarchist |
Apr-12-08 04:22 PM |
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A lot of factory jobs around here start around $10.00 |
Nikia |
Apr-13-08 10:37 AM |
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Recently I was at a "temporary"(heh for me at least) job and I had excellent benefits |
Codedonkey |
Apr-13-08 11:23 AM |
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There are still places, Starbucks for one |
tammywammy |
Apr-13-08 07:41 PM |
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Cheap Labor Conservatism is killing us! The more desperately you |
B Calm |
Apr-12-08 12:54 AM |
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I read something about that |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 12:59 AM |
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Democrats are better at controlling inflation |
Lasher |
Apr-12-08 02:09 AM |
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Didn't know that |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 02:46 AM |
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Did you read the article I linked? |
Lasher |
Apr-12-08 03:06 AM |
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Yeah, but I knew alot of that stuff |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 03:17 AM |
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I worked up a spreadsheet on the S&P 500 |
Lasher |
Apr-12-08 06:38 AM |
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Haha...that's how much I'm making right now. |
Evoman |
Apr-12-08 01:26 AM |
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Great |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 01:47 AM |
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Productivity MEANS "more work for less pay". |
El Pinko |
Apr-12-08 11:42 AM |
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productivity |
Juche |
Apr-13-08 03:33 AM |
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"Which is what I said, higher productivity should result in higher wages but it does not." |
El Pinko |
Apr-13-08 07:40 AM |
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60 grand a week? |
girl gone mad |
Apr-12-08 01:53 AM |
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Google 'emperors club' |
Juche |
Apr-12-08 02:01 AM |
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but you are dependent on your girlfriend's goodwill |
pitohui |
Apr-13-08 09:43 AM |
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They only make a $1 difference... |
Codedonkey |
Apr-13-08 07:11 PM |
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If I'm not mistaken that wage put's you at pretty close to the poverty level |
Connonym |
Apr-12-08 01:50 AM |
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The poverty level is $30,000 or below now!! |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 02:05 AM |
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I guess I'm in good (albeit tragic) company |
Connonym |
Apr-12-08 02:16 AM |
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45% of single parent households way below the poverty line |
Breeze54 |
Apr-12-08 02:32 AM |
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sure, you can live on it...as long as nothing ever goes wrong in your life. nt |
VotesForWomen |
Apr-12-08 04:05 AM |
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In '82 I made $7/Hr. and we were dead broke. In 2002 I made $36/Hr. and was still broke |
ThomWV |
Apr-12-08 06:45 AM |
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Thats almost 70 grand a year |
ChicagoBurbsMale |
Apr-13-08 09:28 AM |
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Making 70 grand a year for 8 weeks out of 52 = isn't |
InkAddict |
Apr-13-08 02:03 PM |
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Yep, on all counts |
ThomWV |
Apr-14-08 11:23 AM |
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We seem to be confusing making a living with surviving. |
greyhound1966 |
Apr-12-08 10:55 AM |
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I started at $10 after college 3 yrs ago. |
BluePatriot |
Apr-12-08 11:19 AM |
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When they average... |
GTurck |
Apr-12-08 11:20 AM |
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I supervise 32 people |
ChicagoBurbsMale |
Apr-12-08 11:31 AM |
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How much you make? |
B Calm |
Apr-12-08 01:00 PM |
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I make |
ChicagoBurbsMale |
Apr-13-08 09:06 AM |
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almost twice as much as the workers you are judging. Do you think |
B Calm |
Apr-13-08 09:19 AM |
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Not underpaid |
ChicagoBurbsMale |
Apr-13-08 09:24 AM |
#118 |
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I don't know how old you are, but you are underpaid. Companies |
B Calm |
Apr-13-08 11:05 AM |
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Sorry but |
ChicagoBurbsMale |
Apr-13-08 11:11 AM |
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Ignorance is bliss.. |
B Calm |
Apr-13-08 02:37 PM |
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hmmnnnn, and they all live alone? no dual income households? |
kenzee13 |
Apr-12-08 01:34 PM |
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True |
ChicagoBurbsMale |
Apr-13-08 09:09 AM |
#113 |
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Also........... |
ChicagoBurbsMale |
Apr-13-08 11:22 AM |
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Yes, you are wrong. Only under capitalism is the human love of and desire for |
kenzee13 |
Apr-13-08 04:56 PM |
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What about those of us who had the kids first and then got the wage cuts? |
conflictgirl |
Apr-13-08 05:20 PM |
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pull the old boot straps up |
ChicagoBurbsMale |
Apr-13-08 06:56 PM |
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I'm assuming none of them have children |
conflictgirl |
Apr-12-08 02:05 PM |
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Again |
ChicagoBurbsMale |
Apr-13-08 09:11 AM |
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Hit and run? |
B Calm |
Apr-12-08 04:26 PM |
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No |
ChicagoBurbsMale |
Apr-13-08 09:12 AM |
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This thread makes me understand Obama's bitter remarks |
EndElectoral |
Apr-12-08 11:47 AM |
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Depends where you live |
DireStrike |
Apr-12-08 12:08 PM |
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you can make it on $10/hr around here |
TheFarseer |
Apr-12-08 12:18 PM |
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It is about $5 per hour below |
varelse |
Apr-12-08 01:38 PM |
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That ain't shit here in California |
XemaSab |
Apr-12-08 03:25 PM |
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How to we combat the raise in prices that accompanies a raise in wages? |
thebighart |
Apr-12-08 05:33 PM |
#106 |
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Wages for low wage workers can be a small part of the budget |
Juche |
Apr-13-08 03:37 AM |
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I was a Wal-Mart Manager for many years, |
thebighart |
Apr-13-08 05:07 PM |
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When bonuses for the managers can run from $35K on up, |
Lars39 |
Apr-13-08 05:12 PM |
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I don't disagree in theory, |
thebighart |
Apr-13-08 05:21 PM |
#161 |
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Depends on *many factors* |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Apr-13-08 09:13 AM |
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If one is working 40 hours/week.... |
Aviation Pro |
Apr-13-08 09:32 AM |
#120 |
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$400 a week before taxes? "not bad?" really? |
pitohui |
Apr-13-08 09:37 AM |
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1600/month |
Aviation Pro |
Apr-13-08 09:41 AM |
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i've heard that about the regional jets |
pitohui |
Apr-13-08 09:51 AM |
#124 |
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It was a self-inflicted would by pilots that caused that shameful situation... |
Aviation Pro |
Apr-13-08 10:12 AM |
#125 |
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very low income |
fighterdem6 |
Apr-13-08 10:16 AM |
#126 |
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A number of people around here think that is "good money" |
Nikia |
Apr-13-08 10:51 AM |
#129 |
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Since I cant start a thread yet, what job do poster/responders have |
ChicagoBurbsMale |
Apr-13-08 10:56 AM |
#130 |
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Based upon 1995 census and income figures |
SimpleTrend |
Apr-13-08 11:08 AM |
#133 |
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Here's a *very* rough estimate of a budget of $1600/month gross... |
Lars39 |
Apr-13-08 11:10 AM |
#134 |
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It doesn't need to be that high |
Juche |
Apr-13-08 11:33 AM |
#144 |
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I think you're low-balling health insurance... |
Lars39 |
Apr-13-08 11:56 AM |
#145 |
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My health insurance is about $35/month |
Juche |
Apr-13-08 12:28 PM |
#147 |
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MRIs cost around $3500 or more. |
Lars39 |
Apr-13-08 12:33 PM |
#148 |
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Its a problem |
Juche |
Apr-13-08 12:55 PM |
#149 |
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A lot of people do not understand health insurance |
TwixVoy |
Apr-13-08 01:56 PM |
#150 |
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I currently pay $19/mo in total for vision, medical and dental... |
Codedonkey |
Apr-13-08 07:16 PM |
#165 |
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Is the medical "consumer driven" |
TwixVoy |
Apr-13-08 07:49 PM |
#168 |
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I had to look that up to see what it was... |
Codedonkey |
Apr-13-08 08:23 PM |
#170 |
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Consumer driven health care |
TwixVoy |
Apr-13-08 09:38 PM |
#175 |
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Our total medical is about $650...no dental or vision. |
Lars39 |
Apr-13-08 11:41 PM |
#177 |
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never! I'm invincible and will never get old. |
Codedonkey |
Apr-14-08 08:02 AM |
#178 |
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I was getting 10/hr at a 7-Eleven in 1990 |
DS1 |
Apr-13-08 12:07 PM |
#146 |
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Best bet for decent minimum wage, probably. |
durutti |
Apr-13-08 02:27 PM |
#152 |
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That's about $21K/yr. |
Jack Rabbit |
Apr-13-08 05:05 PM |
#156 |
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I don't remember that "a few" years ago, no. |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-13-08 05:09 PM |
#158 |
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At NYU last year I made 16K/no benefits teaching full-time. And they said I made $93 an hour. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-13-08 05:42 PM |
#162 |
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It should be minimum wage. |
The Gunslinger |
Apr-13-08 08:51 PM |
#172 |
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As one 'General Contractor' told me, "the minimum wage necessary too.... |
gbrooks |
Apr-13-08 08:53 PM |
#173 |
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Sounds like he's a pretty astute guy... |
XOKCowboy |
Apr-13-08 11:36 PM |
#176 |
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My younger daughter made $25 an hour last year |
DFW |
Apr-14-08 11:25 AM |
#184 |
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