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39. What a beautiful account of your childhood! You have me yearning for a pastrami sandwich with a
knish right now! The pastrami sold here is way too lean. I did have an excellent deli a few blocks from where I lived in Kew Garden Hills, Queens. :)

I was born in Queens, moved for several years to LI and moved back to Howard Beach, Queens when I was 10 then to Kew Garden Hills, Queens at 12. These 2 areas of Queens were a lot less urban from where you grew up in Astoria. From the time I was 6 I was very independent, wandering and exploring and playing for hours outside of my homes. On Long Island, my most favorite places were nearby woods, where I loved to sit and read with no sense of time. I don't think my Mom ever had a clue where I was, nor did she limit me. She and my Dad were born and raised in Brooklyn, and had their own freedom in their youth.

When we moved to Kew Garden Hills, I walked with new friends to the 1964 Worlds Fair (my brother worked there). Being in a 2 fare zone, without a subway or in your case, an el, right nearby, I didn't venture with friends into Manhattan and Brooklyn (Coney Island of course) until I was older than you were. I was 14. I loved theater and would save up my allowance, and once a month catch Broadway matinees, balcony seats cost $5.00. Manhattan became my weekend playground, and when I got a little older, one of the places I went to when I cut out of high school, the other place was Queens College which was across the street from my home. I would sit in on much more interesting classes. When I went into "the city", I used to go down to the Village and hang out in Washington Square Park, listening to folk music. Check out the stores in the East Village, or go uptown to the Metropolitan Museum and touch Van Gogh paintings (no one caught me) or play in Central Park. At 15 I went to the Be-In on Easter Sunday in the park, and I fell in love for the first time, and received my first real deep kiss (inside the NY State Theater at Lincoln Center) and these were 2 different guys!

Also at 15 I started to go into the city at night and saw free concerts in Central Park ... the ones I remember vividly, Judy Collins, Leonard Cohen, Linda Ronstadt, and Barbra Streisand's huge concert. After the Collins/Cohen concert, my friends and I decided to see how many cigarettes we could bum off of people (we didn't smoke), and we hit pay dirt at The Plaza Hotel and I asked the doorman if he had any cigarettes. He asked us to wait a minute, went inside this grand hotel, and came out with a carton of Marlboros. We said thanks, proceeded down Fifth Avenue when we saw a homeless man sleeping on the steps of St. Thomas' Church. We woke him up and gave him the carton and left before he realized what happened to him. :) There were also free concerts at St. Mark's Church in the East Village. I saw King Kong at Buruch College on a big screen, haunted Horn and Hardart's Automats, and saw experimental art films for free. This was the late 60s and the time and place was exciting.

The Catskills was where my parents would take me on vacation for 2 weeks out of the year in the summer. They moved up to So. Fallsburg and then to Monticello for a few years when my Dad first retired.
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  -Child abuse, naive or "nurturing" parent? D__S  Apr-10-08 10:31 PM   #0 
  - "City girls just seem to find out early... How to open doors with just a smile"  Breeze54   Apr-10-08 10:38 PM   #1 
  - i dont agree with mom. i wouldnt/couldnt do it. i so understand the mom and get her  seabeyond   Apr-10-08 10:41 PM   #2 
  - Not sure I'd have done the same thing  Ellen Forradalom   Apr-10-08 10:44 PM   #3 
  - Wow!  MonkeyFunk   Apr-10-08 10:55 PM   #4 
  - Is this really that big a deal?  Withywindle   Apr-10-08 10:59 PM   #5 
  - it should totally depend on the kid  Sophia_Karina   Apr-10-08 11:00 PM   #6 
  - Welcome to DU, Sophia_Karina!  Breeze54   Apr-10-08 11:03 PM   #9 
     - thank you so much!  Sophia_Karina   Apr-11-08 01:35 AM   #23 
        - I don't think I have a lot of wisdom but I have a lot of heart!  Breeze54   Apr-11-08 01:48 AM   #24 
  - That reminded me of the Richard Branson story  lumberjack_jeff   Apr-10-08 11:01 PM   #7 
  - I was a latchkey kid at 10  Warpy   Apr-10-08 11:03 PM   #8 
  - No shit...  givemebackmycountry   Apr-10-08 11:41 PM   #10 
  - LOL! I'm just laughing with delight at your words!  Breeze54   Apr-10-08 11:51 PM   #11 
  - What a beautiful account of your childhood! You have me yearning for a pastrami sandwich with a  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-11-08 10:26 AM   #39 
  - She didn't give him a cell phone because she "didn't want to lose it"...  MercutioATC   Apr-10-08 11:53 PM   #12 
  - She knows her kid is capable and I totally get the "not wanting to lose the cell" n/t  Breeze54   Apr-11-08 12:47 AM   #15 
  - hey, i am down with the lady, but that is a contradiction. trust kid  seabeyond   Apr-11-08 06:50 AM   #26 
  - yes but  Sophia_Karina   Apr-11-08 01:31 AM   #22 
  - You are exactly right. She held on to everything that could be replaced...  Xenotime   Apr-11-08 01:14 PM   #47 
  - Kids in Tokyo commute by subway as young as age 6  Lydia Leftcoast   Apr-11-08 12:03 AM   #13 
  - "The difference is that these incidents weren't broadcast 24/7 on the national news." - Exactly!  Breeze54   Apr-11-08 12:49 AM   #16 
  - Tokyo must be a wonderful place to grow up  spinbaby   Apr-11-08 06:59 AM   #27 
     - I knew a couple who spent a year in Japan (a smaller city) with their preteen children  Lydia Leftcoast   Apr-11-08 08:28 AM   #36 
  - I wasn't that lucky.  Perragrande   Apr-11-08 12:44 AM   #14 
  - There are tons of things to explore in "suburbia"...your Mom was a control freak.  Breeze54   Apr-11-08 12:51 AM   #17 
  - No, there wasn't anyplace interesting to explore where I lived.  Perragrande   Apr-11-08 01:16 AM   #19 
     - "I never hung out with the other kids.... aimlessly..." ?  Breeze54   Apr-11-08 01:31 AM   #21 
  - Now THAT was child abuse!  Lydia Leftcoast   Apr-11-08 12:51 AM   #18 
  - Fucking gossipy busybody wusses are the only ones who have a problem...  BlooInBloo   Apr-11-08 01:20 AM   #20 
  - I was a latchkey kid at 9-10 years.  distantearlywarning   Apr-11-08 06:43 AM   #25 
  - Same here, but I will, perhaps hypocritically, take a different approach w/our daughter  Echo In Light   Apr-11-08 08:02 AM   #34 
  - If we do not over protect we can get in trouble though- it sucks  Marrah_G   Apr-11-08 10:55 AM   #41 
  - I understand the intention  BoneDaddy   Apr-11-08 07:13 AM   #28 
  - There is much less crime in America than there used to be  AngryAmish   Apr-11-08 07:19 AM   #29 
  - I live in the suburbs but lived a good part of my life in NYC. I saw the mom and son on The Today  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-11-08 07:44 AM   #30 
  - Yes. We're in small town/rural division area ...  Echo In Light   Apr-11-08 08:11 AM   #35 
     - My town on the other hand is large and sprawling covering loads of miles, with no sense of  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-11-08 10:54 AM   #40 
        - I recall the first day my kids were more than an arm's length  Karenina   Apr-11-08 06:30 PM   #59 
           - What a great account! I love the part of your son converting the money!  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-12-08 05:20 PM   #61 
  - I see it as much an indictment on our cities and culture  lastliberalintexas   Apr-11-08 07:47 AM   #31 
  - Ugh. Permissive parents are the bane of my existence. NT  Snarkturian Clone   Apr-11-08 07:53 AM   #32 
  - most of parenting is about playing the odds.  aikoaiko   Apr-11-08 07:55 AM   #33 
  - I let my 15 year old go to India for 11 months....  PassingFair   Apr-11-08 08:49 AM   #37 
  - Personally, I wouldn't have allowed this for even my mature 11 year old son,  blondeatlast   Apr-11-08 10:25 AM   #38 
  - well, I have mixed feelings  cali   Apr-11-08 11:09 AM   #42 
  - I grew up in small towns. At the age of eight, I would ride my bike two miles to meet a friend  blondeatlast   Apr-11-08 05:59 PM   #56 
  - I'm with you on this.  riderinthestorm   Apr-11-08 07:15 PM   #60 
  - Agreed on all points. NT  mondo joe   Apr-11-08 11:50 AM   #45 
  - Wait a minute. She thought he would lose a cell phone but  proud2Blib   Apr-11-08 11:12 AM   #43 
  - It's not for my kids.  GreenPartyVoter   Apr-11-08 11:47 AM   #44 
  - carrying a cell phone (esp with GPS) would have been a reasonable safety measure.  aikoaiko   Apr-11-08 12:09 PM   #46 
  - Agreed. Also, if this child can't be trusted not to lose a cell phone, is he REALLY  mzmolly   Apr-11-08 01:22 PM   #49 
  - If A Child Of Nine Is Not Capable Of This Modest Feat, Sir, Its Parents Are Incompetents  The Magistrate   Apr-11-08 01:19 PM   #48 
  - It's not about the child's ability to get home,  MercutioATC   Apr-11-08 05:09 PM   #51 
     - I Roamed The City At That Age, Sir  The Magistrate   Apr-11-08 05:33 PM   #52 
        - I do understand that, it just seems a rather large risk to take.  MercutioATC   Apr-11-08 05:39 PM   #53 
        - The Odds Of It Being Disastrous, Sir  The Magistrate   Apr-11-08 05:53 PM   #54 
           - New York is a lot safer now than in the past, but  MercutioATC   Apr-11-08 06:18 PM   #57 
        - I am curious  Book Lover   Apr-11-08 05:56 PM   #55 
           - Chicago, Ma'am, Mostly  The Magistrate   Apr-11-08 06:22 PM   #58 
  - When my daughter was 8 she wanted to "hang out at the mall" with her  madmom   Apr-11-08 01:35 PM   #50 

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