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| 106. yes, if they lie, cheat, and steal -- which they will |
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the other side will do everything they can to steal it, from the "october surprise" to get alzheimer's poster child reagan in office to the bloodless coup of 2000
do i think mccain can win a fair fight? well, that's another question, but i think anyone who believes the fight will be fair is not paying attention
they will try to steal it guaranteed
what are we prepared to do about it? anything? ever? because it's been 28 years since "october surprise" and nobody is in prison yet so why shouldn't they keep stealing?
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| -Does anyone here REALLY believe that McCain WILL beat the democrat in November ? |
jerryme1 |
Apr-10-08 06:16 PM |
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Yes *shiver* |
tazkcmo |
Apr-10-08 06:20 PM |
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I think you are an optimist. |
alittlelark |
Apr-13-08 12:15 AM |
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Didn't you read the post you are replying to? What an insult! |
MADem |
Apr-13-08 05:50 PM |
#123 |
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It depends on who wins the nomination, and how our ticket looks. |
MADem |
Apr-10-08 06:20 PM |
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Are you a McCain supporter ? |
BlueJazz |
Apr-10-08 06:24 PM |
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Are You? |
jerryme1 |
Apr-10-08 06:26 PM |
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Only if I were having a Nightmare. |
BlueJazz |
Apr-12-08 12:45 PM |
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. |
fascisthunter |
Apr-10-08 06:27 PM |
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Yup..........n/t |
Wilber_Stool |
Apr-10-08 06:54 PM |
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You are henceforth so labeled. NT |
MADem |
Apr-10-08 06:31 PM |
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Rats....uh....if I send you 300 bucks, could you take me off the list? |
BlueJazz |
Apr-12-08 12:47 PM |
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Keep your money, you'll probably need it during the McCain presidency |
MADem |
Apr-12-08 02:26 PM |
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When you go back to school ....Look up the words "Kidding" and ... |
BlueJazz |
Apr-12-08 05:56 PM |
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In this environment, on this message board, I am supposed to be able to divine your "tone?" |
MADem |
Apr-12-08 06:27 PM |
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Well...Geez..MAdem...You've been here for years and I've read ... |
BlueJazz |
Apr-12-08 10:28 PM |
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No worries. All well between us. |
MADem |
Apr-13-08 04:45 PM |
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Boy...I understand.....this Us vs Them is getting pretty old.... especially... |
BlueJazz |
Apr-13-08 07:37 PM |
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during the McCain presidency? - (it's not even worth a comment, especially |
Imagevision |
Apr-12-08 06:37 PM |
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Yes - it damn well could happen!!! So please stop the bickering between |
Bobbieo |
Apr-10-08 06:25 PM |
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I think you're right. |
DuStrange |
Apr-10-08 06:40 PM |
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Yep, that's it in a nutshell. |
MADem |
Apr-10-08 07:34 PM |
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That's okay... |
DuStrange |
Apr-10-08 08:12 PM |
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Voting third party is fine - but Nader? |
Eric Condon |
Apr-10-08 09:07 PM |
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Well... |
DuStrange |
Apr-10-08 09:13 PM |
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This is what scares me the most! The "oh it's a cake walk" |
JeanGrey |
Apr-10-08 09:05 PM |
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This Scares Me, Too |
ribofunk |
Apr-11-08 04:17 AM |
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Yes. And if it happens we will blame it on diebold, or |
JeanGrey |
Apr-11-08 08:50 AM |
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It's not about Hillary, but way to make it partisan on an intra-party basis. |
MADem |
Apr-12-08 02:28 PM |
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The Democrat? Absolutely not. |
newmajority |
Apr-10-08 06:21 PM |
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Diebold thinks so |
PetrusMonsFormicarum |
Apr-10-08 06:21 PM |
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Yes. The DLC will make sure that will happen. |
devilgrrl |
Apr-10-08 06:22 PM |
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Anyone who doesn't see that a very real possibility |
depakid |
Apr-10-08 06:22 PM |
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I agree |
Kaleva |
Apr-12-08 11:29 PM |
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He'll be at Bush* approval levels by the time the debates are over. |
tridim |
Apr-10-08 06:24 PM |
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John Kerry won all 3 debates in the public's opinion. |
Eric J in MN |
Apr-10-08 09:00 PM |
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Bush didn't go on a tirade and start screaming at the moderators at those debates. |
tridim |
Apr-10-08 09:17 PM |
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Bush did seem irritable during at least one of the debates. NT |
Eric J in MN |
Apr-10-08 11:58 PM |
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His secret earpiece was probably turned up to high |
herbster |
Apr-11-08 09:25 AM |
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If we cannot defeat McCain with the pathetic state this country is in, |
elocs |
Apr-10-08 06:24 PM |
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It's a distinct possibility n/t |
rockymountaindem |
Apr-10-08 06:24 PM |
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2 things, GD, you're doing it wrong and no i do not believe he will win. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Apr-10-08 06:25 PM |
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Not Without Stealing another Election (nt) |
fascisthunter |
Apr-10-08 06:25 PM |
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ding ding ding we have a winner! n/t |
AZDemDist6 |
Apr-10-08 06:28 PM |
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Which is why they're now using the M$M to sell the idea of a CLOSE race |
Echo In Light |
Apr-11-08 05:56 AM |
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Yup! Just Like Before |
fascisthunter |
Apr-11-08 04:01 PM |
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not really a relevant question in democratic underground...can't imagine ANYONE believes that here |
spanone |
Apr-10-08 06:25 PM |
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You think we're stupid and don't live in the real world? |
MADem |
Apr-10-08 06:36 PM |
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Not at all. |
sniffa |
Apr-10-08 06:25 PM |
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true that. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Apr-10-08 06:27 PM |
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It's only posted about 200 times a day here |
sniffa |
Apr-10-08 06:30 PM |
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Absolutely not. |
panader0 |
Apr-10-08 06:26 PM |
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McCain could steal it? |
bambino |
Apr-10-08 06:27 PM |
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yes because we're just that stupid. n/t |
pepperbear |
Apr-10-08 06:28 PM |
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I don't see how it's possible without widespread electoral fraud |
nuxvomica |
Apr-10-08 06:29 PM |
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Oh that was so last month! McCain is gaining ground due to the Obama/Clinton bloodbath. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-10-08 08:32 PM |
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Did anyone back in November really believe he would get the nomination? |
jobycom |
Apr-10-08 06:30 PM |
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Depends- by "beat" do you mean "honestly win", or do you mean "be declared the victor"? |
dicksteele |
Apr-10-08 06:32 PM |
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Not if it is Al Gore but Hill and BO, sure he can and probably will due to deep party divison |
FreeStateDemocrat |
Apr-10-08 06:33 PM |
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Totally. n/t |
Danieljay |
Apr-10-08 06:33 PM |
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McCain is a 72 year old warmonger still living his glory days as a Navy pilot. |
jerryme1 |
Apr-10-08 06:37 PM |
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Sure would suck to have him as president, eh? |
0rganism |
Apr-10-08 06:53 PM |
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"He has not articulate, nor does have a viable plan, for any issues facing our country" |
NYC Liberal |
Apr-10-08 10:41 PM |
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No he isn't. He's a 72 year old Senator and former POW who has anger issues |
MADem |
Apr-11-08 02:15 AM |
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Most probably |
Thothmes |
Apr-12-08 08:37 PM |
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I didn't six months ago but.... |
XOKCowboy |
Apr-10-08 06:38 PM |
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He's coasting along merrily and we're busy pissing on each other |
Husb2Sparkly |
Apr-10-08 06:38 PM |
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Our candidates really don't have to fight one another!!! They seem to enjoy it !!! |
Bobbieo |
Apr-10-08 06:45 PM |
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Yes!!! That is it exactly! |
JeanGrey |
Apr-10-08 09:08 PM |
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Somewhere deep down, I believe McCain is going to get trounced if things continue |
jerryme1 |
Apr-10-08 06:40 PM |
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I refuse to seriously entertain that possibility. |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-10-08 06:46 PM |
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A lot depends on what has yet to occur, so don't write the GOP off just yet |
0rganism |
Apr-10-08 06:50 PM |
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Nope. |
applegrove |
Apr-10-08 06:50 PM |
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nope |
mdmc |
Apr-10-08 07:15 PM |
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I believe that McSame may pull it off ... |
zbdent |
Apr-10-08 07:42 PM |
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I do. n/t |
LWolf |
Apr-10-08 07:45 PM |
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I'm somewhat certain we'll lose. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-10-08 08:25 PM |
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I don't think he'll need to steal it |
rockymountaindem |
Apr-10-08 08:29 PM |
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I agree. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-10-08 08:39 PM |
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Well, if he doesn't, Rove will have wasted 6 months.... |
Junkdrawer |
Apr-10-08 08:27 PM |
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Yes indeed. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-10-08 08:55 PM |
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********~~~!!!!! |
MADem |
Apr-13-08 05:59 PM |
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Yes, between Diebold and the virtual party civil war |
nadinbrzezinski |
Apr-10-08 08:31 PM |
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I believe there will always be people paid to say so no matter what the truth. |
L. Coyote |
Apr-10-08 08:34 PM |
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IMO, McCain will not be the candidate, Cheney will bring in a sub. Probably Condi if we |
CK_John |
Apr-10-08 08:35 PM |
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Fuck No! nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Apr-10-08 08:37 PM |
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It's entirely possible. |
TransitJohn |
Apr-10-08 08:39 PM |
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Not a chance in hell. |
Rex |
Apr-10-08 08:41 PM |
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No, once we formally have a candidate and focus on him he's done. |
MrSlayer |
Apr-10-08 08:45 PM |
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He Has an Excellent Shot. |
Toasterlad |
Apr-10-08 08:53 PM |
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It's likely. |
Eric J in MN |
Apr-10-08 08:57 PM |
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God help me but yes I do. I am scared shitless and if it |
JeanGrey |
Apr-10-08 09:04 PM |
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I don't |
Jack Rabbit |
Apr-10-08 09:08 PM |
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If our 2 Dem candidates don't stop letting him run unopposed while they tear each other apart, yes |
Hekate |
Apr-10-08 10:35 PM |
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no n/t |
seabeyond |
Apr-10-08 10:36 PM |
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I never thought the idiot son of a gangster could become pres.... |
LibInTexas |
Apr-10-08 10:51 PM |
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I think it really depends on what happens between now and then. |
KillCapitalism |
Apr-10-08 11:11 PM |
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Standing on one hand, singing "God Bless America" in Swahili smoking a 'J'! |
Breeze54 |
Apr-11-08 02:31 AM |
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So far, I don't even think Ralph Nader could arrange that, BUT |
DFW |
Apr-11-08 05:26 AM |
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I doubt if there's enough Kool-Aid in the world for McCain to (honestly) win. |
Perry Logan |
Apr-11-08 05:46 AM |
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Yes, because the media will make him look like the only reasonable choice |
Jacobin |
Apr-11-08 05:54 AM |
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Hey, a complete idiot (got into office) over Al Gore and John Kerry. |
Sparkly |
Apr-11-08 06:12 AM |
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the dem. party should have annointed Edwards early in the campaign = slam dunk win for the dems. |
KG |
Apr-11-08 06:41 AM |
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What a year to be "historic". |
Catchawave |
Apr-11-08 09:12 AM |
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Whatever we believe, we have to take that possibility very seriously |
Time for change |
Apr-11-08 06:57 AM |
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No way in hell |
TNOE |
Apr-11-08 08:56 AM |
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All other things being equal, no... |
LanternWaste |
Apr-11-08 08:56 AM |
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The Repub Party is Destroyed!!! |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Apr-11-08 09:09 AM |
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It's not really McClown I'm worried about . . . |
HughBeaumont |
Apr-11-08 09:24 AM |
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Not a snowball's chance in hell. |
ThomWV |
Apr-11-08 09:59 AM |
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For the sake of the world, I bloody hope not! |
LeftishBrit |
Apr-12-08 02:27 PM |
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No, but they will steal it. |
MartyL |
Apr-12-08 07:31 PM |
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No, he won't. |
ellie |
Apr-12-08 08:06 PM |
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Did anyone here REALLY believe that Bush would beat Kerry or Gore?? |
L. Coyote |
Apr-12-08 08:18 PM |
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yes, if they lie, cheat, and steal -- which they will |
pitohui |
Apr-12-08 08:22 PM |
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I REALLY believe that McCain can win |
OmahaBlueDog |
Apr-12-08 08:26 PM |
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No |
malaise |
Apr-12-08 08:31 PM |
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it could happen n/t |
Skittles |
Apr-12-08 09:00 PM |
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When the republicans CHEAT, unchallenged, yes....eom |
Mind_your_head |
Apr-12-08 11:37 PM |
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I think it's highly possible |
DesertRat |
Apr-12-08 11:38 PM |
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Depends on how good a sniper Cheney hires. |
tomreedtoon |
Apr-13-08 12:27 AM |
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Legitimately beat them.....no |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Apr-13-08 12:39 AM |
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If the mere fact... |
oedura |
Apr-13-08 03:51 AM |
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very succinct and factually CORRECT |
Skittles |
Apr-13-08 04:33 AM |
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If Democrats get their shit together, he can be beaten and either candidate can beat him |
Hippo_Tron |
Apr-13-08 05:29 PM |
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Yes, because |
Sewsojm |
Apr-13-08 05:29 PM |
#122 |
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not about the candidates |
Locrian |
Apr-13-08 07:05 PM |
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Only if certain things happen |
AnnieBW |
Apr-13-08 08:08 PM |
#127 |
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You are asking the wrong question- |
BeHereNow |
Apr-13-08 08:18 PM |
#128 |
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Yes, because he has the backing of the most |
LibDemAlways |
Apr-13-08 08:39 PM |
#129 |
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I like your positive outlook but we can't afford to get cocky at this point. n/t |
leeroysphits |
Apr-13-08 08:40 PM |
#130 |
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