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Fri Apr-04-08 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #37 |
| 42. people will not stop driving cars, that's a given. |
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it may mean a diverse range of methods to provide power when petroleum becomes too expensive or scarce, but cars in one form or another will be a big part of the social landscape for quite awhile yet. and india and china are pretty much just getting started.
seeing as it's not the first time that humanity has made short-sighted and self-centered decisions, it's a pretty good bet as well that biofuels will be a big part of the mix until cleaner technologies are better developed to be more reliable and efficient. so we might as well find ways to produce biofuels that detracts as little as possible from our food-chain.
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| -Is "biofuel" just a fancy way of saying we are going to use food to make fuel? |
NNN0LHI |
Apr-04-08 08:07 AM |
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No, it means, the fuel can be grown, not mined... |
ColbertWatcher |
Apr-04-08 08:09 AM |
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So it has nothing to do with that box of breakfast cereal that cost me 8 bucks yesterday? |
NNN0LHI |
Apr-04-08 08:11 AM |
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Um... |
ColbertWatcher |
Apr-04-08 08:20 AM |
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Incredible that you're falling for this complete scam... |
JackRiddler |
Apr-04-08 12:43 PM |
#38 |
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That depends on what you use as the source. |
alarimer |
Apr-04-08 04:05 PM |
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Sugar is bad news... |
JackRiddler |
Apr-04-08 04:30 PM |
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Corn is a bad biofuel. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-04-08 04:42 PM |
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What ceral did tou buy? |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Apr-04-08 10:29 AM |
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No. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-04-08 01:11 PM |
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actually, it does.... |
mike_c |
Apr-04-08 08:15 AM |
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not necessarily- |
QuestionAll |
Apr-04-08 08:21 AM |
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Thank you. |
ColbertWatcher |
Apr-04-08 08:24 AM |
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of course they would.... |
mike_c |
Apr-04-08 08:49 AM |
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by that measure, so does petroleum exploration,extraction, processing...etc. |
QuestionAll |
Apr-04-08 10:45 AM |
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of course not-- that's just hyperbole.... |
mike_c |
Apr-04-08 10:54 AM |
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check out this link- |
QuestionAll |
Apr-04-08 11:03 AM |
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the main problems with algal biofuel... |
mike_c |
Apr-04-08 01:28 PM |
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as far as nutrients are concerned... |
QuestionAll |
Apr-04-08 04:22 PM |
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But it would impact two eco-systems |
NoMoreMyths |
Apr-04-08 08:52 AM |
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doesn't all energy production impact various ecosystems in some negative way? |
QuestionAll |
Apr-04-08 10:47 AM |
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Yes they do |
NoMoreMyths |
Apr-04-08 11:09 AM |
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the best answer may be a combination of sources that do the least harm... |
QuestionAll |
Apr-04-08 11:23 AM |
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Technicality. |
ColbertWatcher |
Apr-04-08 08:21 AM |
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so the rest of the world's species are just a "technicallity...?" |
mike_c |
Apr-04-08 08:53 AM |
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Except for the part about it taking as much or more petroleum to grow, harvest and... |
Orsino |
Apr-04-08 09:56 AM |
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It doesn't have to be that way...but at present it is. |
HereSince1628 |
Apr-04-08 08:10 AM |
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sure is..check the price of corn syrup |
madrchsod |
Apr-04-08 08:13 AM |
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not if we use non-arable land to build algae farms that use salt-water to grow their "crops" |
QuestionAll |
Apr-04-08 08:17 AM |
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the military is developing algae fuel |
madrchsod |
Apr-04-08 08:21 AM |
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Alright, using the highest yield there, let's see how many acres it would take... |
Solon |
Apr-04-08 10:30 AM |
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seems like the university of new hampshire physics dept. came up with different totals... |
QuestionAll |
Apr-04-08 10:53 AM |
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Your math is off |
kgfnally |
Apr-04-08 11:12 AM |
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Yeah, I noticed that, I screwed up my metric to imperial conversion... |
Solon |
Apr-04-08 11:16 AM |
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you don't even have to use the 15,000 gallon figure- |
QuestionAll |
Apr-04-08 11:27 AM |
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That would only give about a yield of 3.392 billion barrels a year... |
Solon |
Apr-04-08 12:07 PM |
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the article deals with replacing petroleum fuels used for transportation |
QuestionAll |
Apr-04-08 12:17 PM |
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Most of our electricity usage comes from coal or natural gas, not oil... |
Solon |
Apr-04-08 12:27 PM |
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people will not stop driving cars, that's a given. |
QuestionAll |
Apr-04-08 01:13 PM |
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Why is that a given? |
Solon |
Apr-04-08 01:51 PM |
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because it's what our current culture is built around, and china's is being converted to... |
QuestionAll |
Apr-04-08 02:13 PM |
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The valuable thing about liquid fuels is that they are well suited for transportation. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-04-08 04:40 PM |
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Uh, one square km. is equal to about 247 acres... |
chixydix |
Apr-04-08 04:02 PM |
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THE INTERNATIONALIZATION OF GENOCIDE |
Mika |
Apr-04-08 08:19 AM |
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Not such a good idea |
OzarkDem |
Apr-04-08 08:57 AM |
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Some examples of biofuels that aren't food |
OmahaBlueDog |
Apr-04-08 09:29 AM |
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Nah... It's just a moniker that screams |
Karenina |
Apr-04-08 09:52 AM |
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I use biodiesel made from waste oil. |
Lance_Boyle |
Apr-04-08 10:01 AM |
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but there's not enough waste oil for everyone to do it. |
QuestionAll |
Apr-04-08 11:29 AM |
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which is fine |
Lance_Boyle |
Apr-04-08 03:52 PM |
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Food based fuels are a sub set of bio-fules |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Apr-04-08 10:26 AM |
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Recycling waste oil (and manure) is a great thing! |
JackRiddler |
Apr-04-08 12:46 PM |
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Bush legacy - Burn food, eat cardboard from China. nt |
LeftHander |
Apr-04-08 01:08 PM |
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Corn isn't even a very efficient crop for fuel conversion |
KamaAina |
Apr-04-08 01:18 PM |
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It's an obscenity. |
blindpig |
Apr-04-08 01:49 PM |
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Usually. Making bio-diesel from used deep-fryer grease, that's an exception. |
Herdin_Cats |
Apr-04-08 04:09 PM |
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It means damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead! |
Mountainman |
Apr-04-08 04:10 PM |
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Something seems a little wrong here, maybe, maybe not. |
ThomWV |
Apr-04-08 04:38 PM |
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Here is the answer to the wheat question |
NNN0LHI |
Apr-04-08 05:04 PM |
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But if we use our crops to fuel our cars |
XemaSab |
Apr-05-08 05:35 PM |
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