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Response to Reply #95
96. How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
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BTW? Your Welcome for all the links.
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  -How Reagan Created "The Homeless," & Why Charity Can't Fix It Hannah Bell  Apr-03-08 11:38 PM   #0 
  - Excellent post  Ellen Forradalom   Apr-03-08 11:43 PM   #1 
  - Jogging clubs are great, in the presence of economic change.  Hannah Bell   Apr-03-08 11:47 PM   #3 
  - I remember the aftermath of his lovely governorship here. Suddenly, with funding cut  calimary   Apr-04-08 02:29 AM   #25 
  - If my mom's bout with alcoholism had occurred five years later  sfexpat2000   Apr-04-08 11:23 AM   #57 
  - Actually, that is not quite accurate. MOST of the emptying of institutions happened earlier.  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 03:26 PM   #100 
  - Pulled out of the OP for emphasis:  Raksha   Apr-04-08 03:48 PM   #111 
  - Thank you. I'm coming to the conclusion that most people just can't grasp what is done to us, unles  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 04:11 PM   #115 
  - In my experience, "means-testing" is one of the sickest notions  Raksha   Apr-04-08 04:55 PM   #124 
     - The point is, we're just supposed to DIE. It isn't enough to live on, we don't have  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 04:59 PM   #126 
        - i empathizes w/your situation but,  psychmommy   Apr-04-08 08:15 PM   #160 
  - excellent  Two Americas   Apr-04-08 05:25 PM   #134 
  - You are so right. People practically assume that homeless people are  JDPriestly   Apr-04-08 06:56 PM   #150 
  - "Most of us go through a form of depression ........ We call it grief"  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:58 AM   #200 
  - Even so, ronnie did cut the funding further, and that's just one area in which he did so.  calimary   Apr-04-08 11:00 PM   #175 
     - Yes, Raygun cut it further...so did Carter, so did Clinton.  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 01:13 PM   #208 
  - Lived in CA during his presidency!!  boilerbabe   Apr-04-08 10:32 PM   #169 
     - It was awful during that time. I was SO frustrated!  calimary   Apr-04-08 11:46 PM   #178 
  - Naomi Klein's book on 'disaster capitalism' is a must read nt  EVDebs   Apr-04-08 09:07 PM   #162 
     - Excellent book recommendations!  boilerbabe   Apr-04-08 10:37 PM   #171 
        - now what  Two Americas   Apr-05-08 12:21 PM   #202 
  - Reagan also cut funding to mental health and effectively emptied mental health hospitals  nashville_brook   Apr-03-08 11:46 PM   #2 
  - Don't forget the community based half way houses...  WCGreen   Apr-03-08 11:48 PM   #4 
  - I also remember that well  Ellen Forradalom   Apr-03-08 11:48 PM   #5 
  - You got that wrong  Giant Robot   Apr-04-08 08:09 AM   #44 
  - Reagan didn't have the power of the purse.  Rosemary2205   Apr-03-08 11:55 PM   #8 
  - Reagan was governor of California when he did that. The hospitals closed, but the money for the rest  Hekate   Apr-04-08 12:05 AM   #10 
  - In Texas, they did this with the State School system  Horse with no Name   Apr-04-08 01:23 AM   #19 
  - I Had an aunt in the state hospital in CA then and then she was moved into  eagertolearn   Apr-04-08 10:36 PM   #170 
     - I'm so sorry. I'm in SB also. Because of my work on a County commission I know abt "dual diagnosis"  Hekate   Apr-05-08 01:59 AM   #182 
        - So, in your estimation, most homeless people are "mentally ill", and we should all be locked up?  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:10 AM   #186 
           - Get off it. I never said that. I never implied that. It's not true. But abandoning the weakest...  Hekate   Apr-05-08 01:30 PM   #210 
              - Even though it's been pointed out repeatedly that mentally ill people are a very small percentage  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 03:56 PM   #215 
              - "your cause?"  Two Americas   Apr-05-08 04:11 PM   #217 
  - While it is sacrilege to post it here I would remind the denizens of DU  greyhound1966   Apr-04-08 11:09 PM   #176 
  - How DARE you point out the foibles of some Dems!!!  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:14 AM   #187 
  - it is even more uncomfortable than that  Two Americas   Apr-05-08 12:44 PM   #204 
     - How DARE you suggest that we look at ourselves!!  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 01:03 PM   #206 
  - And it was a republi-CON congress.  calimary   Apr-04-08 11:54 PM   #180 
     - they represent us  Two Americas   Apr-05-08 03:40 PM   #213 
  - "...emptied mental health hospitals into the streets."  KansDem   Apr-04-08 11:30 AM   #59 
  - Hey! You're talking about my life! ^_^  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 03:36 PM   #105 
     - I've been a librarian for over 15 years...  KansDem   Apr-04-08 05:05 PM   #130 
        - "Sound familiar?" Thankfully, I can say it's not something I've been subjected to.  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 05:37 PM   #138 
        - Yikes...  bliss_eternal   Apr-04-08 09:55 PM   #165 
  - This was big where I lived back then  Ohio Joe   Apr-04-08 01:49 PM   #76 
  - please see response #100  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 03:34 PM   #103 
  - I'm get confused about the definition of "homeless"  Rosemary2205   Apr-03-08 11:50 PM   #6 
  - a continuum, maybe?  Two Americas   Apr-04-08 12:48 AM   #17 
  - Great point!  calimary   Apr-05-08 12:02 AM   #181 
  - yes  Two Americas   Apr-05-08 04:46 PM   #218 
  - Jogging is part of a particular mindset, a particular obsession with self-improvement and self-  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:18 AM   #188 
  - Homeless people are people whom do NOT have their own address!  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 11:18 AM   #53 
  - Well fraking done.  kgfnally   Apr-03-08 11:50 PM   #7 
  - I, too, remember when "beggars" were something other countries had, & we were proud we didn't  Hekate   Apr-03-08 11:58 PM   #9 
  - Yep, I remember when people used to brag about it & say it demonstrated  Hannah Bell   Apr-04-08 12:15 AM   #13 
  - Great observations  BushDespiser12   Apr-04-08 12:10 AM   #11 
  - Perhaps you can straighten my thinking out about "jobs"  SimpleTrend   Apr-04-08 12:11 AM   #12 
  - By increasing the amount the worker keeps, and reducing the  NCevilDUer   Apr-04-08 12:21 AM   #14 
  - too good for them.  zonmoy   Apr-04-08 06:57 PM   #151 
  - You have just explained Marx's primary point in Das Capital, more or less.  readmoreoften   Apr-04-08 02:45 AM   #29 
  - You ask a very important question, and it's too bad it's not getting response.  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 03:38 PM   #106 
  - I am sorry  Two Americas   Apr-04-08 05:33 PM   #137 
     - Now THERE'S an idea!  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:20 AM   #189 
  - K&R  leftstreet   Apr-04-08 12:25 AM   #15 
  - I hope to see this at the top of the Greatest page.  bleever   Apr-04-08 12:47 AM   #16 
  - K and R  Two Americas   Apr-04-08 01:09 AM   #18 
  - Very important information!  arundhatiroyfan   Apr-04-08 01:59 AM   #20 
  - I'm going to cheer for cell phones and jogging and anything  sfexpat2000   Apr-04-08 02:08 AM   #21 
  - Networks - of what? n/t  Hannah Bell   Apr-04-08 02:24 AM   #23 
     - Of people working for change. We used to call that "community".  sfexpat2000   Apr-04-08 02:30 AM   #26 
     - How is giving people cellphones & jogging lessons  Hannah Bell   Apr-04-08 02:49 AM   #31 
        - Your points are *very* well taken...  ljm2002   Apr-04-08 10:20 AM   #49 
        - Exactly. n/t  sfexpat2000   Apr-04-08 11:22 AM   #56 
        - I believe that comes from society's unwillingness to deal AT ALL with  SimpleTrend   Apr-04-08 12:34 PM   #65 
        - Treating the symptom often DOES work...  ljm2002   Apr-04-08 01:47 PM   #75 
           - No, we don't disagree.  SimpleTrend   Apr-04-08 02:04 PM   #80 
           - Well, then, think for a moment how conservatives feel, when we continually call them to task.  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 04:13 PM   #116 
              - Hmmm, you seem to be missing my point a bit...  ljm2002   Apr-04-08 06:04 PM   #141 
                 - no one is saying that, are they?  Two Americas   Apr-04-08 07:03 PM   #153 
                 - Exactly. How often must we keep repeating this?  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:23 AM   #190 
                 - And you seem to be missing mine.  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:27 AM   #191 
        - "That's great, but we also need people working on the larger problem which is: ...".  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 03:42 PM   #108 
        - Straw man...  ljm2002   Apr-04-08 06:07 PM   #142 
        - shouldn't be, but it is  Two Americas   Apr-04-08 05:59 PM   #140 
           - Good grief!  ljm2002   Apr-04-08 06:21 PM   #145 
           - can't speak for them  Two Americas   Apr-04-08 06:46 PM   #149 
           - "HOWEVER, it really bugs me that so many people -- often of the conservative stripe, by the way "  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:31 AM   #193 
           - When was that time, again? I'm having a hard time remembering....  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:29 AM   #192 
        - Then you are missing an opportunity of bringing people into  sfexpat2000   Apr-04-08 11:02 AM   #50 
           - We share it all the time. Most choose to reject. So be it.  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:32 AM   #194 
           - not really  Two Americas   Apr-05-08 12:30 PM   #203 
              - Much better than my reply... strike mine.  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 01:05 PM   #207 
     - The fact is, there are four things in US history that have  Hannah Bell   Apr-04-08 02:36 AM   #27 
        - 100% agreed.  readmoreoften   Apr-04-08 02:47 AM   #30 
        - No one is arguing for bootstrap pulling but for inclusion.  sfexpat2000   Apr-04-08 11:20 AM   #54 
        - In Philly..........  rucognizant   Apr-04-08 07:43 PM   #155 
  - they not only cut the budgets--they tore the rooming houses and cheap hotels down  librechik   Apr-04-08 02:10 AM   #22 
  - I'm seeing a growing number of McMansions standing empty  joneschick   Apr-04-08 01:02 PM   #70 
  - Hey that's a great idea!--  librechik   Apr-04-08 01:12 PM   #73 
  - Here's a thought... some muddleclass activists join with some homeless activists and take over those  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 03:44 PM   #109 
  - Could you please tell me, again, why I and so many other disabled people should  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:35 AM   #195 
  - Agree with you 100%! Cell phones & jogging are just feel good band aids on the problem. nt  TheGoldenRule   Apr-04-08 02:26 AM   #24 
  - Awesome Post!  Avalon Sparks   Apr-04-08 02:40 AM   #28 
  - Remember , we once had Franklin Delano Roosevelt a President who understood the meaning of charity  bushmeister0   Apr-04-08 02:52 AM   #32 
  - I totally agree. A bunch of manufactured controversy -  Hannah Bell   Apr-04-08 03:00 AM   #33 
  - So say we all!  bushmeister0   Apr-04-08 03:24 AM   #34 
  - more from that speech  Two Americas   Apr-05-08 03:49 PM   #214 
  - More fruits of the Republican Revolution.  Perry Logan   Apr-04-08 05:33 AM   #35 
  - Democrats have been complicit. Please stop placing all the blame on the easy target.  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 03:47 PM   #110 
  - There is a screech of "class warfare" whenever the truth is told..  annabanana   Apr-04-08 05:39 AM   #36 
  - On target! "Liberals" don't like being corrected anymore than conservatives do.  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 03:49 PM   #112 
  - Well you may not remember it, and it's always fun to blame things on Reagan  MadHound   Apr-04-08 06:00 AM   #37 
  - Blame sometimes falls where it''s deserved  digidigido   Apr-04-08 12:56 PM   #68 
     - or it keeps falling on a scapegoat  Two Americas   Apr-05-08 01:00 PM   #205 
  - This is really a great post.  emperor72   Apr-04-08 06:13 AM   #38 
  - And the burden falls on veterans, too.  unhappycamper   Apr-04-08 07:19 AM   #39 
  - In 1971 I was the young wife of a professor of Spanish. We were  tblue37   Apr-04-08 07:29 AM   #40 
  - To the at least 2.3 million people who are homeless, add the  mqbush   Apr-04-08 07:46 AM   #41 
  - Thanks for this excellent analysis. I hope we will be able to make change happen. nt  ThruTheLookingGlass   Apr-04-08 07:52 AM   #42 
  - Amen!  noel711   Apr-04-08 08:01 AM   #43 
  - K & R: Thank you.  LWolf   Apr-04-08 08:15 AM   #45 
  - Thank you! a good starting place would be the National Housing Trust Fund,  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 01:19 PM   #209 
  - Edit: Dupe.  LWolf   Apr-04-08 08:17 AM   #46 
  - awesome post  il_lilac   Apr-04-08 08:23 AM   #47 
  - What an incredible post. K & R. n/t  GOPBasher   Apr-04-08 08:36 AM   #48 
  - What homeless problem?  Wednesdays   Apr-04-08 11:06 AM   #51 
  - That's what Newsom is trying to do here and we've had to fight him  sfexpat2000   Apr-04-08 11:25 AM   #58 
  - This started before he was president...  kisserofsinners   Apr-04-08 11:13 AM   #52 
  - And then the asshole went national to destroy all Gov. and social programs!  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 11:20 AM   #55 
  - Just to Highlight Something You Posted  fascisthunter   Apr-04-08 11:38 AM   #60 
  - But...but...but....Ronnie Raygun elimated all those Welfare Queens  whistle   Apr-04-08 12:05 PM   #61 
  - Oh, I'm sure that there were "welfare queens" driving cadillacs.  NCevilDUer   Apr-04-08 12:52 PM   #67 
     - BINGO! And the same dynamic is building now, with the war wagons...  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:41 AM   #196 
  - Reagan's Vision  Baby Snooks   Apr-04-08 12:06 PM   #62 
  - Detroit was crippled by a one-two punch of Reaganism and Big-3 Greed  MrScorpio   Apr-04-08 12:18 PM   #63 
  - K and R  gademocrat7   Apr-04-08 12:24 PM   #64 
  - unfortunately, I find a major problem with this  hfojvt   Apr-04-08 12:36 PM   #66 
  - 'Between 1980 and 1989, HUD's budget authority was cut from $74 billion to $19 billion'  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 01:05 PM   #71 
  - I cannot verify that either  hfojvt   Apr-04-08 02:13 PM   #82 
     - Please go to the Fed Link.  Hannah Bell   Apr-04-08 02:38 PM   #86 
     - The reporter would have verified the facts but here.... more verification...same numbers.  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 02:42 PM   #87 
        - I have read the Daily Howler too much to trust journalists  hfojvt   Apr-04-08 03:05 PM   #95 
           - How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 03:15 PM   #96 
           - Yep, I agree. Can't trust journalists to fact-check.  Hannah Bell   Apr-04-08 03:18 PM   #98 
           - since you have no way to verify it  hfojvt   Apr-04-08 03:27 PM   #102 
  - Please go to this link: HUD 1983, from the Fed.  Hannah Bell   Apr-04-08 01:55 PM   #77 
  - except that "budget authority" does NOT represent an actual amount spent  hfojvt   Apr-04-08 02:54 PM   #93 
     - Come on now... Part of the strategy was also not to spend what had been authorized  Morereason   Apr-04-08 11:51 PM   #179 
        - part of "whose" strategy  hfojvt   Apr-05-08 03:40 PM   #212 
  - Try this Link with your major problem  digidigido   Apr-04-08 02:01 PM   #78 
     - thank you, now I totally feel vindicated  hfojvt   Apr-04-08 02:48 PM   #90 
        - As I understand, the budget authority affects their ability to carry  Hannah Bell   Apr-04-08 03:02 PM   #94 
        - that sounds kinda like privatization  hfojvt   Apr-04-08 03:18 PM   #97 
           - Yeah, I'm getting the impression something like that was the effect.  Hannah Bell   Apr-04-08 03:39 PM   #107 
        - WOW!!! You are actually saying that the homelessness caused by Raygun was "imaginary"?  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 03:20 PM   #99 
        - homelessness is not imaginary  hfojvt   Apr-04-08 03:34 PM   #104 
           - Raygun and his cronies (who weren't convicted until later) were the culprits, pure and simple!!  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 07:49 PM   #156 
              - the "blame" for Carter comes from the same place  hfojvt   Apr-04-08 10:42 PM   #172 
        - "kinda disgusting to see how much money the government spends on housing subsidies for the wealthier  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 04:51 PM   #121 
           - well, it is at the link  hfojvt   Apr-04-08 05:18 PM   #133 
              - Fantastic. Thank you so much! This is a great help to me in a project I'm  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 05:32 PM   #136 
  - Thank you so much!  Utopian Leftist   Apr-04-08 12:59 PM   #69 
  - I read every word of this  varelse   Apr-04-08 01:11 PM   #72 
  - When he fired the Air Traffic Controllers it became  Sherman A1   Apr-04-08 01:41 PM   #74 
  - Yep...  dajoki   Apr-04-08 02:09 PM   #81 
  - I dont know if anyone else remembers this, but when Regan got elected  ladywnch   Apr-04-08 02:01 PM   #79 
  - The root cause of most of our problems is the offshoring of manufacturing jobs which created ...  AdHocSolver   Apr-04-08 02:14 PM   #83 
  - Don't forget the War on Iraq and the Tax Cuts for the Rich...one big ball of crap!  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 02:46 PM   #88 
  - Excellent Perspective, and absolutely correct  digidigido   Apr-04-08 03:58 PM   #113 
  - Not if he doesn't include IRAQ!!! n/t  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 07:55 PM   #159 
  - That's not the root cause of homelessness.  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 04:24 PM   #117 
     - The conditions you noted are not the ROOT cause, but the result of exported jobs and huge deficits.  AdHocSolver   Apr-04-08 04:51 PM   #120 
        - I beg to differ. The real HOUSING CRISIS was before Nafta, et al.  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 04:53 PM   #123 
           - If you are out of work or work for minimum wage, you can't afford any housing, low-income or not.  AdHocSolver   Apr-04-08 06:12 PM   #143 
              - The root of the problem is a combination and Iraq would be at the top! n/t  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 07:52 PM   #157 
              - What jobs were being exported in the 1960s, since you insist on this?  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:44 AM   #197 
  - BLASPHEMER!  Atman   Apr-04-08 02:16 PM   #84 
  - and catsup bottles, it is a vegetable after all....  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 02:49 PM   #91 
  - Remind me again....  Rage for Order   Apr-04-08 02:28 PM   #85 
  - Are you defending Raygun?! Please say it isn't so....  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 02:48 PM   #89 
     - No, I'm defending accuracy  Rage for Order   Apr-05-08 12:18 PM   #201 
  - Hmmmm... 65 billion... what might government be doing with that money?  KamaAina   Apr-04-08 02:51 PM   #92 
  - And, once again, stopping the war does NOT automatically mean the $$ would be put into housing for  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 04:26 PM   #118 
     - The point was that defunding housing helped feed St. Raygun's war machine  KamaAina   Apr-04-08 04:52 PM   #122 
        - Ah, you were talking about the other wars... there are so many, it's easy to get confused.  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 04:56 PM   #125 
        - I was talking about them all  KamaAina   Apr-04-08 05:10 PM   #132 
        - 81% ARE awake and have been complaining for years...maybe "they" weren't listening?  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 07:53 PM   #158 
  - "True charity means more  otherlander   Apr-04-08 03:27 PM   #101 
  - Where does that quote come from?  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 04:27 PM   #119 
     - not sure where the quote is from  mdmc   Apr-04-08 05:03 PM   #128 
     - mlk? n/t  Hannah Bell   Apr-04-08 05:05 PM   #129 
     - MLK said it.  otherlander   Apr-04-08 05:09 PM   #131 
        - "True compassion is more than flinging a coin to a beggar; it is not haphazard and superficial. It  bobbolink   Apr-04-08 05:29 PM   #135 
  - Wonderful post!!!!  Herdin_Cats   Apr-04-08 03:59 PM   #114 
  - all "trickle-down economics" means is that the people on the bottom are getting pissed on.  QuestionAll   Apr-04-08 05:02 PM   #127 
  - K&R n/t  Orwellian_Ghost   Apr-04-08 05:49 PM   #139 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-04-08 06:19 PM   #144 
  - Reagan - No wonder the rich adore him!  1776Forever   Apr-04-08 06:22 PM   #146 
  - Outstanding post  JFN1   Apr-04-08 06:28 PM   #147 
  - IM A REPUBLICAN AND I DONT BELIEVE THIS CRAP  happygoluckytoyou   Apr-04-08 06:43 PM   #148 
  - I read Ayn Rand and I agree  Wetzelbill   Apr-04-08 07:12 PM   #154 
  - Bless you  creeksneakers2   Apr-04-08 07:03 PM   #152 
  - Reagan did create homelessness in Houston  texastoast   Apr-04-08 08:46 PM   #161 
  - Part of Raygun "getting big govt. out of our pockets".....  southerncrone   Apr-04-08 09:14 PM   #163 
  - OK, we know that happened, but that's in the past.  totodeinhere   Apr-04-08 09:36 PM   #164 
  - It lingers and that's what people don't understand...it takes YEARS to overcome being homeless...  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 10:28 PM   #168 
  - This is a great post..  boilerbabe   Apr-04-08 10:14 PM   #166 
  - Thanks!  TransitJohn   Apr-04-08 10:17 PM   #167 
  - Bring back Marx, or invite Muhammed  greengestalt   Apr-04-08 10:43 PM   #173 
  - FUCK! I was too busy at my "new economy" job to catch this in time to recommend.  greyhound1966   Apr-04-08 10:58 PM   #174 
  - Thank you greyhound, 1966!!!  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:46 AM   #198 
  - Great post. Thank you for your work for change. REC.  pnwmom   Apr-04-08 11:17 PM   #177 
  - It's funny,  blindpig   Apr-05-08 07:21 AM   #183 
  - If we were to all recognize the truth in what you are saying, we would indeed have HOPE!  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 11:48 AM   #199 
  - Reagan was a symptom, not the disease.  Orsino   Apr-05-08 01:53 PM   #211 
  - you are a very dangerous person to the establishment  datasuspect   Apr-05-08 07:35 AM   #184 
  - Until Ronald Reagen is something,  agincourt   Apr-05-08 10:21 AM   #185 
  - And how is that going to happen?  bobbolink   Apr-05-08 03:59 PM   #216 
  - We have to overcome the brainwashing. This is not America. n/t  greyhound1966   Apr-06-08 10:53 PM   #219 
  - Kick  Opposite Reaction   Apr-07-08 01:38 PM   #220 
  - There are a lot of mentally ill on the streets in Los Angeles...  Juniperx   Apr-07-08 01:49 PM   #221 
  - Thom Hartmann gave this piece a strong shout-out and commentary!!  chknltl   Apr-07-08 02:14 PM   #222 
 

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