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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:51 PM
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147. You'd have to try really hard to damage the converter.
The bigger problem is that with modern, computerized,
fuel-injected cars, if the battery is flat, there
may not be enough electricity left to run the electric
fuel pump, the computer, and the fuel injectors so
the car won't start anyway.

This wasn't so much of a problem in the old days when
cars had mechanical fuel pumps, carburetors, no computers,
and the only electricity you needed was the juice to fire
the spark plugs.

Tesha
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  - No vinyl for me, but I do love a fountain pen.  Toucano   Mar-31-08 06:45 PM   #24 
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  - mule skinning  alfredo   Mar-31-08 09:06 PM   #29 
  - Ethics advisor to the Republican Party  Canuckistanian   Mar-31-08 09:11 PM   #30 
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  - Double clutching. Most don't know what the hell a bit and brace is.  alfredo   Apr-01-08 12:32 AM   #58 
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  - I didn't know about it until about 2 years ago  goodgd_yall   Apr-01-08 01:51 AM   #68 
  - I have heard that push-starting a new model standard  Art_from_Ark   Apr-01-08 04:21 AM   #81 
  - I used to push start (with help) my old VW bug numerous times.  Hardrada   Apr-01-08 01:00 PM   #119 
  - You'd have to try really hard to damage the converter.  Tesha   Apr-01-08 02:51 PM   #147 
  - Many newer standards cannot be push started.  Xithras   Apr-01-08 03:43 PM   #154 
  - How do you start a fire with a hunk of wood, a rock, and a big chunk of ice?  yardwork   Apr-01-08 01:53 PM   #133 
  - If you ever really NEED to know how to do this, you're in serious trouble!  dicksteele   Apr-01-08 03:16 PM   #149 
     - That's great! Thank you!  yardwork   Apr-01-08 03:22 PM   #150 
  - haha that reminds me!  JNelson6563   Apr-02-08 09:43 PM   #214 
     - My 17 year old daughter drives a stick.  Ms. Toad   Apr-03-08 06:57 AM   #222 
  - One surprising omission from the list is keypunching  Lydia Leftcoast   Mar-31-08 09:20 PM   #32 
  - It's in there  FloridaJudy   Mar-31-08 11:38 PM   #54 
  - have vinyl. have turntable...and keeping it.  kineneb   Mar-31-08 09:48 PM   #34 
  - Smart move  Andrea   Mar-31-08 10:52 PM   #46 
  - I still make a little money sometimes selling rare vinyl. Enough to pay one bill a year.  slampoet   Apr-01-08 07:52 PM   #164 
  - here is one way  elizfeelinggreat   Apr-01-08 09:42 AM   #103 
     - Another way, if you like your current turntable  JustABozoOnThisBus   Apr-02-08 06:54 AM   #196 
  - I'm 21 and I always write in cursive  rockymountaindem   Mar-31-08 09:50 PM   #35 
  - Here's A Few  Better Believe It   Mar-31-08 10:30 PM   #36 
  - Funny thing  Andrea   Mar-31-08 10:55 PM   #48 
  - Same laws in Oregon too...  Codedonkey   Mar-31-08 11:18 PM   #51 
  - Yes, it's weird for me at gas stations, too... I want to hop out and do it myself  quantessd   Apr-01-08 03:16 AM   #75 
     - Do you tip your gas-pumper-person?  JustABozoOnThisBus   Apr-01-08 02:08 PM   #139 
     - No, nobody ever tips the gas pumpers.  quantessd   Apr-01-08 08:23 PM   #171 
     - That's true in NJ, too, about the price  Andrea   Apr-01-08 08:47 PM   #178 
  - I know. I discovered that about ten years ago.  yardwork   Apr-01-08 01:56 PM   #135 
     - Yes, I remember  Andrea   Apr-01-08 08:44 PM   #177 
  - TV Rabbit ears are making a comeback.  madinmaryland   Apr-01-08 09:51 AM   #104 
  - I'm still using a TV set with rabbit ears.  Perragrande   Apr-01-08 07:52 PM   #165 
     - It's news to me that violinists today can't tune their violins!  CTyankee   Apr-02-08 09:09 AM   #202 
  - I forgot how to write in cursive.... hell, I forgot how to print...  Codedonkey   Mar-31-08 10:40 PM   #41 
     - OK, maybe this is a dumb quesdtion, but how do you write a note, or make a grocery list, or write a  napi21   Mar-31-08 10:53 PM   #47 
        - Hmmm...  Codedonkey   Mar-31-08 11:16 PM   #50 
  - I write in cursive, and people think it's odd  margotb822   Mar-31-08 10:35 PM   #38 
  - 99key adding machine? Mimeograph?  mitchtv   Mar-31-08 10:36 PM   #39 
  - Typing on ditto masters!  Lydia Leftcoast   Mar-31-08 11:41 PM   #55 
  - Sadly, I do have a faint reminiscence of Ditto Sheets.  quantessd   Apr-01-08 03:36 AM   #76 
  - (ahh the smell of fresh mimeo in the morning)  annabanana   Apr-01-08 05:51 AM   #85 
     - I always liked it when the teachers brought a freshly mimeo'd test  madinmaryland   Apr-01-08 09:53 AM   #105 
  - repairing socks.  quantessd   Mar-31-08 10:38 PM   #40 
  - I got to say-  asdjrocky   Mar-31-08 10:42 PM   #42 
  - The youth who missed out on vinyl..... have missed out.  quantessd   Apr-01-08 12:55 AM   #60 
  - So true. n/t  WritersBlock   Apr-01-08 02:51 AM   #73 
  - I disagree  Art_from_Ark   Apr-01-08 04:19 AM   #80 
  - I Used to Cue With My Feet  Crisco   Apr-01-08 08:27 AM   #97 
     - I could scratch with my feet-  asdjrocky   Apr-01-08 09:08 PM   #179 
  - Banking a fire in a stove/fireplace  FloridaJudy   Mar-31-08 11:44 PM   #56 
  - Critical thinking?...nt  SidDithers   Apr-01-08 01:10 AM   #61 
  - If cursive handwriting is obsolete, am I going to have to start  Herdin_Cats   Apr-01-08 01:26 AM   #65 
  - I'm the same way.  Rue   Apr-01-08 07:57 PM   #169 
  - cranking a mimeograph machine  DainBramaged   Apr-01-08 02:58 AM   #74 
  - But who doesn't miss the contact high from the ink?  Jeff In Milwaukee   Apr-01-08 07:58 AM   #93 
  - and smelling the fumes! n/t  TexasBushwhacker   Apr-01-08 09:15 AM   #102 
  - You know that's not a "Mimeograph", right?  Tesha   Apr-02-08 06:24 AM   #191 
  - Sewing.  Perragrande   Apr-01-08 03:40 AM   #78 
  - My mom was a seamstress, and she taught me to sew, throughout the 1980s.  quantessd   Apr-01-08 03:56 AM   #79 
  - It's fun to buy strange material and make something wild and unique.  Perragrande   Apr-01-08 05:37 AM   #84 
  - I have two sewing machines.  FloridaJudy   Apr-01-08 03:01 PM   #148 
  - Thanks. Old Singers are great.  Perragrande   Apr-01-08 07:55 PM   #167 
  - My daughter, in her late 30s, learned to sew from her grandmother.  CTyankee   Apr-02-08 09:19 AM   #204 
  - We just bought the pattern for me to make my daughter's prom dress  Ms. Toad   Apr-03-08 07:08 AM   #223 
  - Being a republicon with honesty and integrity  SpiralHawk   Apr-01-08 05:22 AM   #83 
  - Shorthand will always be convenient.  zanne   Apr-01-08 05:55 AM   #87 
  - bookmarking for obsolete skills  Bucky   Apr-01-08 07:01 AM   #90 
  - Standard shift in automobiles that most people drive.  CTyankee   Apr-01-08 08:27 AM   #96 
  - lots and lots of people still prefer a stick...  QuestionAll   Apr-01-08 08:59 AM   #100 
  - Yes, in sporty cars. I am talking about regular cars.  CTyankee   Apr-01-08 09:12 AM   #101 
     - a lot of people get a stick in smaller cars too- to make them feel sportier...  QuestionAll   Apr-01-08 12:11 PM   #115 
        - Huh, I didn'tknow that stick shifts got you better mileage!  CTyankee   Apr-01-08 02:15 PM   #140 
           - the difference used to be a bigger, but newer automatics have narrowed the gap...  QuestionAll   Apr-01-08 02:37 PM   #142 
              - In the big city you can destroy a stick shift from the stop n go traffic.  Perragrande   Apr-01-08 09:40 PM   #183 
                 - So don't "ride the clutch". Learn to always fully engage or disengage the clutch.  Tesha   Apr-02-08 06:31 AM   #192 
                 - people who know how to drive don't ride the clutch.  QuestionAll   Apr-02-08 08:53 AM   #200 
  - Wanting a stick shift, I actually left a car salesman speechless once.  hvn_nbr_2   Apr-01-08 10:00 AM   #107 
  - I Left Several Car Salesmen When They Told Me "NO ONE" Drives a Stick  we can do it   Apr-01-08 07:45 PM   #162 
  - I just got a car for my teenage daughter  BigDaddy44   Apr-01-08 12:05 PM   #114 
     - Younger people do love the feel of the stick shift. I know I did when I learned it.  CTyankee   Apr-02-08 09:12 AM   #203 
  - writing class notes in cursive all the time.  NuttyFluffers   Apr-01-08 08:52 AM   #98 
  - DJs are keeping the turntable and vinyl QUITE alive!!  lildreamer316   Apr-01-08 10:08 AM   #108 
  - Putting a needle on a vinyl record is now a recognized art form  downstairsparts   Apr-01-08 11:36 AM   #109 
  - I plan on keeping the vinyl and cursive handwriting alive!  last_texas_dem   Apr-01-08 11:41 AM   #110 
  - Vinyl is still my most reliable music delivery system.  gwbsamoron   Apr-01-08 11:54 AM   #112 
  - And I used to carefully get skips out of LP's. You can't "unskip"  Hardrada   Apr-01-08 01:03 PM   #120 
  - CDs have been obsolete for years.  BlooInBloo   Apr-01-08 01:53 PM   # 
     - Why are CDs obsolete, pray tell?  Perragrande   Apr-01-08 08:00 PM   #170 
        - Based on the volume at which they listen to their headphones...  Tesha   Apr-02-08 06:34 AM   #193 
  - Show me an entry on this list and I'll show you a money making niche,  slampoet   Apr-01-08 12:02 PM   #113 
  - Custom made furniture is quite the thing in the upscale market!  CTyankee   Apr-02-08 09:28 AM   #206 
  - I have met more than one young person who cannot tell time on a standard clock.  thecatburgler   Apr-01-08 12:19 PM   #117 
  - How about living without time?  NoMoreMyths   Apr-01-08 01:10 PM   #123 
  - Whistling! I never hear people whistle tunes or anything anymore.  Hardrada   Apr-01-08 01:04 PM   #121 
  - How about using spindles and changing speeds to play  Hardrada   Apr-01-08 01:09 PM   #122 
  - Bah. I still use a needle on vinyl.  progressoid   Apr-01-08 01:44 PM   #126 
  - I have a turntable and still play my old vinyl records on it.  yardwork   Apr-01-08 01:46 PM   #127 
  - I've still got my slide rule.  cloudbase   Apr-01-08 01:49 PM   #128 
  - Hey, I still use shorthand! Not to take dictation for a boss, but to write down stuff  raccoon   Apr-01-08 01:51 PM   #129 
  - Hahaha - it's funny seeing how proud people are of their obsolescence.  BlooInBloo   Apr-01-08 01:52 PM   #130 
  - How young?  raccoon   Apr-01-08 01:53 PM   #132 
  - Blotters, ink, socks and nylon stockings (with seams) sold by foot size  kskiska   Apr-01-08 02:01 PM   #138 
  - We gotta be the same age cuz I remember everything you list!  CTyankee   Apr-02-08 09:04 AM   #201 
  - I never used a dictaphone...  WCGreen   Apr-01-08 02:48 PM   #146 
  - can't operate a dictaphone or change eraser ribbon, but  katty   Apr-01-08 03:28 PM   #151 
  - Writing letters. Who does that anymore?  calico1   Apr-01-08 03:28 PM   #152 
  - My dear calico1!  CaliforniaPeggy   Apr-01-08 04:18 PM   #155 
     - I wish they'd bring back foldup ironing boards.  Perragrande   Apr-01-08 09:35 PM   #181 
        - They still exist. And IKEA sells a "pop-up" ironing board that looks like a kitchen cabinet drawer.  Tesha   Apr-02-08 06:45 AM   #194 
        - Thanks for the info, Tesha!!  Perragrande   Apr-02-08 08:47 PM   #213 
           - You lucky devil!  Tesha   Apr-03-08 06:31 AM   #218 
        - A little cubby in the wall for toilet paper that I have in my half bath  CTyankee   Apr-02-08 09:23 AM   #205 
  - Common Sense is an obsolete skill.  Fox Mulder   Apr-01-08 06:00 PM   #157 
  - I didn't see Piano Tuning  pink-o   Apr-01-08 07:00 PM   #160 
  - Everybody used to make one of their daughters learn piano.  Perragrande   Apr-01-08 09:39 PM   #182 
  - Used to be it took our whole clan to run down  4MoronicYears   Apr-01-08 07:54 PM   #166 
  - I won district in slide rule in 1972.  bmbmd   Apr-01-08 08:35 PM   #175 
  - Lost my slide rule also  Liberal_in_LA   Apr-02-08 03:37 PM   #207 
  - I know where my slide rule is,  Ms. Toad   Apr-03-08 06:34 AM   #219 
  - Film strips  conscious evolution   Apr-01-08 09:24 PM   #180 
  - Yes.  riverdeep   Apr-02-08 04:43 PM   #211 
     - That is what we called  conscious evolution   Apr-02-08 07:52 PM   #212 
  - Not just young people  DeposeTheBoyKing   Apr-02-08 12:52 AM   #187 
  - batch file programming is NOT obsolete!  0rganism   Apr-02-08 01:24 AM   #188 
  - Neither COBOL programmer  conspirator   Apr-02-08 06:07 AM   #190 
     - Well, if that's how you get your CICS... (NT)  Tesha   Apr-02-08 06:47 AM   #195 
  - Waging wars should be obsolete.  Progs Rock   Apr-02-08 01:51 AM   #189 
  - Those are obsolete because of technology  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Apr-02-08 08:47 AM   #199 
  - Actually...  Tesha   Apr-03-08 06:37 AM   #220 
  - Those are reasons that I like this DVD rental website  Union Label   Apr-02-08 03:55 PM   #208 
  - comparing glaciers to "moving slowly"  babydollhead   Apr-02-08 11:14 PM   #215 
 

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