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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:12 AM
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4. I Agree That They Save Lives Just Don't Agree That
risking one's own life should be a criminal offense.
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  -Its "we the people" who mandate wearing a seat belt Angela Shelley  Mar-26-08 03:55 AM   #0 
  - And it's the law.  Patriot Abroad   Mar-26-08 04:31 AM   #1 
  - I'm Really Torn On This - I Hate Unnecessary Laws  lligrd   Mar-26-08 04:39 AM   #2 
  - Wearing seat belts isn't an acedemic exercise.  bushmeister0   Mar-26-08 04:58 AM   #3 
  - I Agree That They Save Lives Just Don't Agree That  lligrd   Mar-26-08 05:12 AM   #4 
  - In principle I agree with what you're saying with the whole freedom guestion  bushmeister0   Mar-26-08 05:32 AM   #7 
  - And . . .  DangerDave921   Mar-26-08 01:13 PM   #63 
     - No, it's a matter of cost/benefit  maui9002   Mar-26-08 02:25 PM   #68 
        - Seat belt laws do not protect the PUBLIC good.  DangerDave921   Mar-26-08 02:33 PM   #70 
           - I disagree;  maui9002   Mar-26-08 03:39 PM   #75 
              - Sorry  DangerDave921   Mar-26-08 04:05 PM   #76 
              - Government would not and does not have an "unfettered" right  maui9002   Mar-26-08 11:00 PM   #81 
              - do we all have to drive hummer, cause those itty bitty teeney cars in accident cause a lot more  seabeyond   Mar-26-08 04:07 PM   #77 
  - $tate revenue trumps concern for the common good. Plus it allows cops to search = BIG bonus!  Echo In Light   Mar-26-08 06:55 AM   #22 
  - Cops searching, excellent point. My son was stopped for not wearing his seat belt and  OmmmSweetOmmm   Mar-26-08 07:46 AM   #32 
     - In some instances the lack of seat belt serves as the excuse to get em pulled over  Echo In Light   Mar-26-08 08:02 AM   #33 
        - Probable cause............  OmmmSweetOmmm   Mar-26-08 08:03 AM   #35 
           - Especially when you have all the long hair and tatts that I have :)  Echo In Light   Mar-26-08 08:24 AM   #43 
              - You made me laugh here! My friend Tony was a cop magnet. Although no tattoos, he had very long  OmmmSweetOmmm   Mar-26-08 09:12 AM   #52 
                 - Ha, well my wife insists I'm not without my charms...  Echo In Light   Mar-26-08 09:49 AM   #56 
                    - Cops are more beligerent now than when I was younger. Over the past years I've known many teens  OmmmSweetOmmm   Mar-26-08 10:34 AM   #59 
  - It's a misdemeanor, hardly an "offense"  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Mar-26-08 07:03 AM   #24 
  - I was flying to KCMO and the guy in the seat next to me just laid the  RC   Mar-26-08 06:30 AM   #14 
     - hang him. then as we the people, wouldnt it be your responsibility to tell on him n/t  seabeyond   Mar-26-08 06:57 AM   #23 
     - Do you think those seatbelts in airplanes would really do anything?  Iris   Mar-26-08 08:07 AM   #37 
        - Yes, they do something  maui9002   Mar-26-08 02:32 PM   #69 
           - I'm glad to know that they do work for some things! Thanks!  Iris   Mar-26-08 08:15 PM   #80 
  - insurance companies could handle this issue  goddess40   Mar-26-08 09:21 AM   #54 
  - Actually it's the insurance companies  taterguy   Mar-26-08 05:16 AM   #5 
  - Yup. And now they're working on anti-fat people legislation. nt  zanne   Mar-26-08 06:54 AM   #21 
  - Actually we the people should thank  malaise   Mar-26-08 05:21 AM   #6 
  - Absolutly correct! And Robert McNamara.  bushmeister0   Mar-26-08 05:36 AM   #9 
  - So wrong.  DangerDave921   Mar-26-08 05:34 AM   #8 
  - Oh please, the government that brought you FEMA is going to waste  bushmeister0   Mar-26-08 05:45 AM   #10 
  - Not worrying  DangerDave921   Mar-26-08 05:51 AM   #11 
     - Yes, and I was debating your opinon  bushmeister0   Mar-26-08 06:13 AM   #13 
     - OK  DangerDave921   Mar-26-08 07:13 AM   #30 
        - Hi DangerDave, its me, I started this thread.  Angela Shelley   Mar-26-08 12:25 PM   #60 
           - yes and your argument is just ignorant and contrary to fact  pitohui   Mar-26-08 02:53 PM   #72 
     - Then complain to the insurance companies...  zanne   Mar-26-08 08:06 AM   #36 
     - Who is asking you to wear a seat belt?  Angela Shelley   Mar-26-08 12:27 PM   #61 
        - I agree with that, but your original post doesn't. nt  zanne   Mar-26-08 02:17 PM   #66 
        - no it isn't "we the people"  pitohui   Mar-26-08 02:57 PM   #73 
     - I agree with you  Mojorabbit   Mar-26-08 09:15 AM   #53 
  - I didn't realize not wearing a seat belt was a fundamental right  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Mar-26-08 07:05 AM   #25 
  - Fundamental Right  DangerDave921   Mar-26-08 07:07 AM   #28 
     - Am I the only one confused by the intention of the OP?nt  zanne   Mar-26-08 02:19 PM   #67 
  - (non causa pro causa)  LanternWaste   Mar-26-08 08:48 AM   #49 
  - Some of my fellow citizens want Americans to pray in school because it's healthier.  Buzz Clik   Mar-26-08 05:54 AM   #12 
  - "Show me the science (or the money)"  JustABozoOnThisBus   Mar-26-08 06:41 AM   #16 
  - The libertarian in me wants to tell you that I can engage in self-destructive activities if I want.  Buzz Clik   Mar-26-08 08:30 AM   #46 
     - just as an older person risks that red meat, they should have the privilige  seabeyond   Mar-26-08 08:34 AM   #47 
     - Indeed. Very few innocent bystanders are killed by severed heads flying through windshields.  Buzz Clik   Mar-26-08 08:45 AM   #48 
     - The libertarian in me feels the same way  JustABozoOnThisBus   Mar-26-08 10:11 AM   #58 
  - We draw the line at what is constitutional and what isn't  Hippo_Tron   Mar-26-08 11:12 PM   #82 
  - No, it was not We The People. We didn't mandate the government to impose seat belt laws over us, nor  OmmmSweetOmmm   Mar-26-08 06:37 AM   #15 
  - No, it's the auto insurance companies that forced the passage of these laws to save themselves  RGBolen   Mar-26-08 06:41 AM   #17 
  - There are a few laws like that  JustABozoOnThisBus   Mar-26-08 06:51 AM   #18 
  - yeee...uuuk. i dont like your post at all. rub me the wrong way, feels bad, smells bad  seabeyond   Mar-26-08 06:52 AM   #19 
  - The OP was a bit too totalitarian for my taste. It gave me the creeps too.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Mar-26-08 07:05 AM   #26 
     - Always be wary of those who insist that 'their way' is for YOUR own good  Echo In Light   Mar-26-08 07:07 AM   #27 
        - isnt that the truth. and then some n/t  seabeyond   Mar-26-08 07:08 AM   #29 
        - My bullshit meter goes way off the scale when I hear/read things like this.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Mar-26-08 07:30 AM   #31 
  - "We the People" of Bulgaria? nt  zanne   Mar-26-08 06:53 AM   #20 
  - Everyone should always use their seatbelt. But society shouldn't demand it.  bean fidhleir   Mar-26-08 08:02 AM   #34 
  - every person should have the choice to eat that donut  seabeyond   Mar-26-08 08:12 AM   #40 
     - You seem to have misread my post (nt)  bean fidhleir   Mar-26-08 08:22 AM   #42 
        - no. i am just not into calling people fools for making a choice different than what i may  seabeyond   Mar-26-08 08:27 AM   #45 
           - I see: all choices are equally good because there is no single reality  bean fidhleir   Mar-26-08 09:51 AM   #57 
  - Agreed.  Orsino   Mar-26-08 08:10 AM   #38 
  - what a bogus argument. seatbelt has nothing to do with endangering others  seabeyond   Mar-26-08 08:17 AM   #41 
  - How does my not having a seatbelt on endanger anyone else?  RGBolen   Mar-26-08 08:24 AM   #44 
     - Not quite what I said.  Orsino   Mar-26-08 08:54 AM   #50 
  - And yet we allow smoking in public  Bandit   Mar-26-08 08:11 AM   #39 
  - I actually understand that part.  Orsino   Mar-26-08 08:56 AM   #51 
  - you're wrong.  QuestionAll   Mar-26-08 09:38 AM   #55 
  - Thats a really good idea,  Angela Shelley   Mar-26-08 01:11 PM   #62 
     - how much of the kool-aid have you drank?  QuestionAll   Mar-26-08 04:36 PM   #78 
  - Bacon Kills!  MartyL   Mar-26-08 01:21 PM   #64 
  - Hi MartyL, thanks for your reply.  Angela Shelley   Mar-26-08 01:32 PM   #65 
  - "we the people" didn't mandate any such thing for any such reasons  pitohui   Mar-26-08 02:48 PM   #71 
  - Quite a slippery slope you're standing on  Jed Dilligan   Mar-26-08 03:18 PM   #74 
  - You know, I find all these "libertarians" fascinating...  Solon   Mar-26-08 04:47 PM   #79 
 

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