McCamy Taylor
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Mon Mar-24-08 01:05 AM
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| 28. 4th reason: disease farming. No health care until 65,then universal single payer government Medicare |
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Think of what this means. Americans are allowed to get to the ripe old age of 65 with as little preventive are as possible, There is a whole phony scientific industry devoted to doing bogus research designed to prove that sweets, snacks, colas, alcohol, tobacco are good for you. Exercise is discouraged by the recreation that is offered--TV and computers. We get fat and unhealthy and live in pollution and get no prevention because our insurance does not pay for it even if we have insurance.
And then, the minute we turn 65 we all have single payer government health insurance called Medicare So, single payer universal isn't even unAmerican. What is unAmerican is trying to insure people when they are younger, when diseases could be prevented rather that treated.
By having this unlimited single payer universal government health insurance at 65 for people who have been encouraged to wreck their bodies---or grow healthy crops of diseases---the Medical Industrial Complex assures itself that it will be able to sell plenty of artificial joints and lots of operating room time and hospital bed space and anesthesia and medications and heart valve replacements and coronary artery splints and more medications and home oxygen and nursing home beds and the list goes on and on....
The current system is set up to make us unhealthy so the MIC can make a profit off of our misery.
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| -Americans Are DYING: Universal Health Care Should Be Something We Can All Agree On |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-23-08 07:57 PM |
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It's not like we have no models to follow |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Mar-23-08 08:00 PM |
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It's also kinda hard to pursue happiness when you don't have adequate health care. |
thecatburgler |
Mar-23-08 08:06 PM |
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I've just spent the longest and worst three weeks of my life embroiled |
leftofthedial |
Mar-23-08 08:03 PM |
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But... |
N4457S |
Mar-23-08 09:09 PM |
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Yes, we can! We can always sign them up for Medicare as a stop gap. |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-23-08 09:30 PM |
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But there are very few doctors or clinics that accept medicare |
junofeb |
Mar-24-08 09:53 AM |
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MOST doctors and all hospitals take Medicare. Bush is trying to hurt Medicare to kill universal |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-24-08 12:32 PM |
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The British system |
Bluenorthwest |
Mar-24-08 09:04 AM |
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The system is working as intended. |
Jackpine Radical |
Mar-23-08 09:28 PM |
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What's even more perverse is that people actually |
walldude |
Mar-24-08 08:23 PM |
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Excellent essay. Kudos. |
enlightenment |
Mar-23-08 08:13 PM |
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We should be in the streets |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Mar-23-08 08:16 PM |
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IT is a travesty that we are not in the streets abt this. |
truedelphi |
Mar-23-08 08:27 PM |
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Drug companies RAISED the prices of the drugs seniors used. |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-23-08 09:34 PM |
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We will only get it by pushing from the bottom |
eridani |
Mar-23-08 08:31 PM |
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What a happy day it will be |
madamesilverspurs |
Mar-23-08 08:48 PM |
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Insurance agent = bookie |
wolfgangmo |
Mar-24-08 08:07 PM |
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In the top 3 of my priorities. Highest, dependending on the day. |
JohnnyLib2 |
Mar-23-08 08:53 PM |
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McCamy Taylor |
Diclotican |
Mar-23-08 09:18 PM |
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I agree completely with your post. |
JanMichael |
Mar-23-08 09:32 PM |
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JanMichael |
Diclotican |
Mar-24-08 05:03 PM |
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We pay twice as much person for piss poor quality health care in the US |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-23-08 09:40 PM |
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What are you on about? |
Jackpine Radical |
Mar-23-08 09:25 PM |
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It's the only thing that will save us. |
Xenotime |
Mar-23-08 09:27 PM |
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There are ways to make it work. |
Clear Blue Sky |
Mar-23-08 09:48 PM |
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It WILL work. The Bush administration is attacking Medicare to attack Universal Health Care |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-23-08 10:50 PM |
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That's... |
N4457S |
Mar-23-08 11:06 PM |
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This AMSA (American Medical Student Association) critique of AMA's |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-24-08 12:39 AM |
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speaking as a clinic manager ... |
wolfgangmo |
Mar-24-08 08:14 PM |
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Miss Edwards and Kucinich harping on this issue --- though Obama mentioned it today --- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-23-08 10:53 PM |
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Actually I think we should have Hybrid care.. Basic free healthcare and you buy catastrophic insur.. |
Thepricebreaker |
Mar-23-08 10:56 PM |
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This is a myth. Important care IS NOW. What waits is elective elbow arthroscopy. |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-24-08 12:54 AM |
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How about paying for 2,000 ICBMs instead of 6 times more... |
Amonester |
Mar-24-08 12:57 AM |
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Name the country that makes you wait for necessary major care. |
wolfgangmo |
Mar-24-08 08:16 PM |
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The only industrialized, rich (sort of) country... |
warren pease |
Mar-24-08 12:35 AM |
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4th reason: disease farming. No health care until 65,then universal single payer government Medicare |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-24-08 01:05 AM |
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The doctors lobby will fight this tooth and nail |
newfie11 |
Mar-24-08 07:22 AM |
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Why do you think that Doctors |
Thothmes |
Mar-24-08 08:16 AM |
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Because Medicare will only pay a certain amount |
newfie11 |
Mar-24-08 09:10 AM |
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And why does medicare have to do that... |
wolfgangmo |
Mar-24-08 08:21 PM |
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Canada |
DangerDave921 |
Mar-24-08 09:47 AM |
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At least Canada worked towards a solution. |
Lars39 |
Mar-24-08 10:03 AM |
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So points for trying? |
DangerDave921 |
Mar-24-08 11:25 AM |
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It beats being personally $60,000 in the hole because you don't have insurance |
Lars39 |
Mar-24-08 11:34 AM |
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I disagree. eom |
DangerDave921 |
Mar-24-08 11:36 AM |
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again that was in 1988 |
newfie11 |
Mar-24-08 11:49 AM |
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That was in 1988 |
newfie11 |
Mar-24-08 11:48 AM |
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Troll alert. |
wolfgangmo |
Mar-24-08 08:27 PM |
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Wait times a myth |
Luminous Animal |
Mar-25-08 11:18 AM |
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Good points, and re pinko commies, socialized medicine and the body (parts) snatchers... |
warren pease |
Mar-24-08 09:25 AM |
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Well said, sir. |
InfiniteNether |
Mar-24-08 06:36 AM |
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Nonsense. Americans want health insurance, a home, a job. Don't care who gives it to them. |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-24-08 12:39 PM |
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It was a joke. But seriously |
InfiniteNether |
Mar-24-08 02:25 PM |
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Death is 100% certain |
DangerDave921 |
Mar-24-08 07:08 AM |
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You must have good insurance and nothing seriously wrong with you. |
Lars39 |
Mar-24-08 07:33 AM |
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What? |
DangerDave921 |
Mar-24-08 09:43 AM |
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People are dying due to lack of healthcare. |
Lars39 |
Mar-24-08 09:56 AM |
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"Life expectancy". Read the journal. |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-24-08 12:43 PM |
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recommend |
xchrom |
Mar-24-08 08:24 AM |
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Too bad America doesn't have a Fidel Castro to give us free h-c and ed. |
Mika |
Mar-24-08 09:17 AM |
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Yay Cuba!!! |
DangerDave921 |
Mar-24-08 11:23 AM |
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Pick one, Haiti or Cuba. |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-24-08 12:45 PM |
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Danger Dave forgot to wear his helmet while driving again. |
wolfgangmo |
Mar-24-08 08:32 PM |
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There is only one candidate that includes universal healthcare. |
Mezzo |
Mar-24-08 09:47 AM |
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Actually they only do universal health insurance. Both use private insurers. |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-24-08 12:47 PM |
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There is no current candidate that includes universal health care, |
LWolf |
Mar-24-08 08:37 PM |
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Very very nicely done post. |
f the letter |
Mar-24-08 10:40 AM |
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Kick. (n/t) |
area51 |
Mar-25-08 10:49 AM |
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