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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:05 AM
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28. 4th reason: disease farming. No health care until 65,then universal single payer government Medicare
Think of what this means. Americans are allowed to get to the ripe old age of 65 with as little preventive are as possible, There is a whole phony scientific industry devoted to doing bogus research designed to prove that sweets, snacks, colas, alcohol, tobacco are good for you. Exercise is discouraged by the recreation that is offered--TV and computers. We get fat and unhealthy and live in pollution and get no prevention because our insurance does not pay for it even if we have insurance.

And then, the minute we turn 65 we all have single payer government health insurance called Medicare So, single payer universal isn't even unAmerican. What is unAmerican is trying to insure people when they are younger, when diseases could be prevented rather that treated.

By having this unlimited single payer universal government health insurance at 65 for people who have been encouraged to wreck their bodies---or grow healthy crops of diseases---the Medical Industrial Complex assures itself that it will be able to sell plenty of artificial joints and lots of operating room time and hospital bed space and anesthesia and medications and heart valve replacements and coronary artery splints and more medications and home oxygen and nursing home beds and the list goes on and on....

The current system is set up to make us unhealthy so the MIC can make a profit off of our misery.

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  -Americans Are DYING: Universal Health Care Should Be Something We Can All Agree On McCamy Taylor  Mar-23-08 07:57 PM   #0 
  - It's not like we have no models to follow  ayeshahaqqiqa   Mar-23-08 08:00 PM   #1 
  - It's also kinda hard to pursue happiness when you don't have adequate health care.  thecatburgler   Mar-23-08 08:06 PM   #3 
  - I've just spent the longest and worst three weeks of my life embroiled  leftofthedial   Mar-23-08 08:03 PM   #2 
  - But...  N4457S   Mar-23-08 09:09 PM   #10 
  - Yes, we can! We can always sign them up for Medicare as a stop gap.  McCamy Taylor   Mar-23-08 09:30 PM   #15 
  - But there are very few doctors or clinics that accept medicare  junofeb   Mar-24-08 09:53 AM   #42 
     - MOST doctors and all hospitals take Medicare. Bush is trying to hurt Medicare to kill universal  McCamy Taylor   Mar-24-08 12:32 PM   #52 
  - The British system  Bluenorthwest   Mar-24-08 09:04 AM   #35 
  - The system is working as intended.  Jackpine Radical   Mar-23-08 09:28 PM   #14 
  - What's even more perverse is that people actually  walldude   Mar-24-08 08:23 PM   #63 
  - Excellent essay. Kudos.  enlightenment   Mar-23-08 08:13 PM   #4 
  - We should be in the streets  Orwellian_Ghost   Mar-23-08 08:16 PM   #5 
  - IT is a travesty that we are not in the streets abt this.  truedelphi   Mar-23-08 08:27 PM   #6 
     - Drug companies RAISED the prices of the drugs seniors used.  McCamy Taylor   Mar-23-08 09:34 PM   #17 
  - We will only get it by pushing from the bottom  eridani   Mar-23-08 08:31 PM   #7 
  - What a happy day it will be  madamesilverspurs   Mar-23-08 08:48 PM   #8 
  - Insurance agent = bookie  wolfgangmo   Mar-24-08 08:07 PM   #59 
  - In the top 3 of my priorities. Highest, dependending on the day.  JohnnyLib2   Mar-23-08 08:53 PM   #9 
  - McCamy Taylor  Diclotican   Mar-23-08 09:18 PM   #11 
  - I agree completely with your post.  JanMichael   Mar-23-08 09:32 PM   #16 
  - JanMichael  Diclotican   Mar-24-08 05:03 PM   #58 
  - We pay twice as much person for piss poor quality health care in the US  McCamy Taylor   Mar-23-08 09:40 PM   #18 
  - What are you on about?  Jackpine Radical   Mar-23-08 09:25 PM   #12 
  - It's the only thing that will save us.  Xenotime   Mar-23-08 09:27 PM   #13 
  - There are ways to make it work.  Clear Blue Sky   Mar-23-08 09:48 PM   #19 
  - It WILL work. The Bush administration is attacking Medicare to attack Universal Health Care  McCamy Taylor   Mar-23-08 10:50 PM   #20 
  - That's...  N4457S   Mar-23-08 11:06 PM   #23 
     - This AMSA (American Medical Student Association) critique of AMA's  McCamy Taylor   Mar-24-08 12:39 AM   #25 
     - speaking as a clinic manager ...  wolfgangmo   Mar-24-08 08:14 PM   #60 
  - Miss Edwards and Kucinich harping on this issue --- though Obama mentioned it today ---  defendandprotect   Mar-23-08 10:53 PM   #21 
  - Actually I think we should have Hybrid care.. Basic free healthcare and you buy catastrophic insur..  Thepricebreaker   Mar-23-08 10:56 PM   #22 
  - This is a myth. Important care IS NOW. What waits is elective elbow arthroscopy.  McCamy Taylor   Mar-24-08 12:54 AM   #26 
  - How about paying for 2,000 ICBMs instead of 6 times more...  Amonester   Mar-24-08 12:57 AM   #27 
  - Name the country that makes you wait for necessary major care.  wolfgangmo   Mar-24-08 08:16 PM   #61 
  - The only industrialized, rich (sort of) country...  warren pease   Mar-24-08 12:35 AM   #24 
  - 4th reason: disease farming. No health care until 65,then universal single payer government Medicare  McCamy Taylor   Mar-24-08 01:05 AM   #28 
     - The doctors lobby will fight this tooth and nail  newfie11   Mar-24-08 07:22 AM   #31 
     - Why do you think that Doctors  Thothmes   Mar-24-08 08:16 AM   #33 
     - Because Medicare will only pay a certain amount  newfie11   Mar-24-08 09:10 AM   #36 
        - And why does medicare have to do that...  wolfgangmo   Mar-24-08 08:21 PM   #62 
     - Canada  DangerDave921   Mar-24-08 09:47 AM   #40 
        - At least Canada worked towards a solution.  Lars39   Mar-24-08 10:03 AM   #44 
        - So points for trying?  DangerDave921   Mar-24-08 11:25 AM   #47 
           - It beats being personally $60,000 in the hole because you don't have insurance  Lars39   Mar-24-08 11:34 AM   #48 
           - I disagree. eom  DangerDave921   Mar-24-08 11:36 AM   #49 
           - again that was in 1988  newfie11   Mar-24-08 11:49 AM   #51 
        - That was in 1988  newfie11   Mar-24-08 11:48 AM   #50 
        - Troll alert.  wolfgangmo   Mar-24-08 08:27 PM   #64 
        - Wait times a myth  Luminous Animal   Mar-25-08 11:18 AM   #68 
     - Good points, and re pinko commies, socialized medicine and the body (parts) snatchers...  warren pease   Mar-24-08 09:25 AM   #38 
  - Well said, sir.  InfiniteNether   Mar-24-08 06:36 AM   #29 
  - Nonsense. Americans want health insurance, a home, a job. Don't care who gives it to them.  McCamy Taylor   Mar-24-08 12:39 PM   #53 
     - It was a joke. But seriously  InfiniteNether   Mar-24-08 02:25 PM   #57 
  - Death is 100% certain  DangerDave921   Mar-24-08 07:08 AM   #30 
  - You must have good insurance and nothing seriously wrong with you.  Lars39   Mar-24-08 07:33 AM   #32 
  - What?  DangerDave921   Mar-24-08 09:43 AM   #39 
     - People are dying due to lack of healthcare.  Lars39   Mar-24-08 09:56 AM   #43 
  - "Life expectancy". Read the journal.  McCamy Taylor   Mar-24-08 12:43 PM   #54 
  - recommend  xchrom   Mar-24-08 08:24 AM   #34 
  - Too bad America doesn't have a Fidel Castro to give us free h-c and ed.  Mika   Mar-24-08 09:17 AM   #37 
  - Yay Cuba!!!  DangerDave921   Mar-24-08 11:23 AM   #46 
     - Pick one, Haiti or Cuba.  McCamy Taylor   Mar-24-08 12:45 PM   #55 
     - Danger Dave forgot to wear his helmet while driving again.  wolfgangmo   Mar-24-08 08:32 PM   #65 
  - There is only one candidate that includes universal healthcare.  Mezzo   Mar-24-08 09:47 AM   #41 
  - Actually they only do universal health insurance. Both use private insurers.  McCamy Taylor   Mar-24-08 12:47 PM   #56 
  - There is no current candidate that includes universal health care,  LWolf   Mar-24-08 08:37 PM   #66 
  - Very very nicely done post.  f the letter   Mar-24-08 10:40 AM   #45 
  - Kick. (n/t)  area51   Mar-25-08 10:49 AM   #67 
 

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