| 176. Elect Ralph Nader N/T |
| -Your Ideas, Please , DU....What Can Be Done (Right Now) To Save Our Economy? |
AzDar |
Mar-16-08 11:25 AM |
#0 |
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Annex China? |
MNDemNY |
Mar-16-08 11:26 AM |
#1 |
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Ouch. |
AzDar |
Mar-16-08 11:27 AM |
#2 |
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Just a thought. |
MNDemNY |
Mar-16-08 11:28 AM |
#3 |
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They might be annexing us |
NewJeffCT |
Mar-17-08 10:12 AM |
#157 |
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Conserve energy at home and work. |
peace13 |
Mar-16-08 11:29 AM |
#4 |
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Eat the rich. |
scarletwoman |
Mar-16-08 11:31 AM |
#5 |
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We'll start with Bill Gates, although I suspect he'll be a bit 'stringy'. |
AzDar |
Mar-16-08 11:55 AM |
#34 |
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I understand babies make a tasty and economical meal |
peace frog |
Mar-16-08 12:29 PM |
#44 |
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Elect a Democrat and stop spending like a "Drunken Sailor" |
FreakinDJ |
Mar-16-08 11:32 AM |
#6 |
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I don't know about that. I oppose the "Blue Dog" Democrats, who want to cut |
Peace Patriot |
Mar-16-08 02:23 PM |
#69 |
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This will sound absurd, but honestly; limit the importation of plastic to half the current level |
ThomWV |
Mar-16-08 11:33 AM |
#7 |
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Really? |
AzDar |
Mar-16-08 11:36 AM |
#14 |
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Seriously. |
ThomWV |
Mar-16-08 11:40 AM |
#22 |
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An excellent point. Is this a common school of thought , or your own idea? |
AzDar |
Mar-16-08 11:53 AM |
#29 |
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Just one rambling thought from a babbling idiot. |
ThomWV |
Mar-16-08 01:22 PM |
#58 |
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On the contrary, I think that's a fine idea that really ought to be passed along to someone |
AzDar |
Mar-16-08 03:18 PM |
#79 |
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I see you dusted off the PHd in economics....... |
FogerRox |
Mar-16-08 02:22 PM |
#68 |
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Plus, it might eliminate all that excess packaging and those gawdawful |
Lorien |
Mar-16-08 06:32 PM |
#124 |
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Revive the manufacturing base |
Bluzmann57 |
Mar-16-08 11:34 AM |
#8 |
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The great lakes area plastics manufacturing industry used to be huge |
ThomWV |
Mar-16-08 11:35 AM |
#12 |
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And with my plan, it could be again |
Bluzmann57 |
Mar-16-08 11:37 AM |
#17 |
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Plastics . . . are poisoning the planet --- let's reverse plastic . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 05:47 PM |
#104 |
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Problem: everything now made from plastic was once made of... |
Spider Jerusalem |
Mar-17-08 02:00 PM |
#169 |
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Yes. |
ThomWV |
Mar-17-08 03:31 PM |
#173 |
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And close those "Post Office Box Banks" in the Caymans. |
annabanana |
Mar-16-08 11:38 AM |
#18 |
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Even having our war toys made entirely in this country would help. |
RC |
Mar-16-08 01:00 PM |
#51 |
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Let's stop buying "war toys" --- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 05:48 PM |
#106 |
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Start taxing American corporations again --- in fact, don't let them back in --- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 05:48 PM |
#105 |
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Absolutely agree. This is essential! |
AzDar |
Mar-16-08 11:39 AM |
#21 |
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I agree and |
CelticWinter |
Mar-16-08 11:55 AM |
#33 |
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Let's make stuff again... |
rucky |
Mar-16-08 11:34 AM |
#9 |
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Workers would be making things if we weren't importing so much (plastic) |
ThomWV |
Mar-16-08 11:38 AM |
#19 |
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I heard there's great future in plastics... |
rucky |
Mar-16-08 12:14 PM |
#41 |
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Yes! (nt) |
scarletwoman |
Mar-16-08 11:58 AM |
#36 |
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Block the corporations who took their manufacturing OUT of America from returning . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 05:50 PM |
#108 |
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I absolutely agree with you. I've been thinking about this for a long time. |
Raksha |
Mar-17-08 10:08 AM |
#156 |
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Stop the useless wars |
judy |
Mar-16-08 11:34 AM |
#10 |
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This would be my first action, if I were in charge: immediately pull troops out of Iraq. |
AzDar |
Mar-16-08 11:45 AM |
#25 |
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Maybe there would be a way to stop this from happening... |
judy |
Mar-16-08 07:19 PM |
#130 |
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Freeze Energy Prices |
The River |
Mar-16-08 11:35 AM |
#11 |
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Create another bubble |
Red Knight |
Mar-16-08 11:35 AM |
#13 |
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It's a giant swindling machine or Ponzi Scheme. |
JanMichael |
Mar-16-08 11:36 AM |
#15 |
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You're on the right track. |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-16-08 04:20 PM |
#89 |
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exactly |
katty |
Mar-17-08 01:55 PM |
#166 |
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ummm....what economy? |
Spider Jerusalem |
Mar-16-08 11:36 AM |
#16 |
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Restructure taxes to their 60's level. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Mar-16-08 11:38 AM |
#20 |
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Re-introduce regulations, get rid of the tax cuts, start jobs programs - |
haele |
Mar-16-08 11:44 AM |
#23 |
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Nothing. |
midnight armadillo |
Mar-16-08 11:45 AM |
#24 |
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I thing four major thrusts. First, an FDR-style public works initiative. |
Jackpine Radical |
Mar-16-08 11:45 AM |
#26 |
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Just curious... |
adsosletter |
Mar-16-08 01:25 PM |
#59 |
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Sure. But remember there's more than one kind of deficit. |
Jackpine Radical |
Mar-16-08 02:04 PM |
#66 |
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FDR used deficit spending to create jobs and build infrastucture |
FogerRox |
Mar-16-08 02:31 PM |
#70 |
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Exactly. |
Jackpine Radical |
Mar-16-08 03:15 PM |
#78 |
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And returned to progressive taxation |
FogerRox |
Mar-16-08 03:32 PM |
#80 |
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OK, OK-- |
Jackpine Radical |
Mar-16-08 03:50 PM |
#82 |
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Progressive taxation engages the working and middle classes in the economy |
FogerRox |
Mar-16-08 04:05 PM |
#86 |
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Probably the best overall answer. But you forget progressive taxation |
FogerRox |
Mar-16-08 02:34 PM |
#72 |
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We arre sorta thinking along the same lines-see post #125. n/t |
Lorien |
Mar-16-08 06:42 PM |
#126 |
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Tax the rich and not the poor, no more money to Iraq profiteers, start social programs |
Peake |
Mar-16-08 11:49 AM |
#27 |
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Wage and price controls. |
Joanne98 |
Mar-16-08 11:52 AM |
#28 |
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You might want to go back and see how things went when Nixon suggested that. |
ThomWV |
Mar-16-08 11:53 AM |
#31 |
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I remember. |
FogerRox |
Mar-16-08 02:35 PM |
#73 |
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End the war. |
LWolf |
Mar-16-08 11:53 AM |
#30 |
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Get out of Iraq. |
quantessd |
Mar-16-08 05:03 PM |
#93 |
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Hard regulation changes for banking, credit cards, energy health care industries |
SoCalDem |
Mar-16-08 11:54 AM |
#32 |
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Haven't you been paying attention? |
Earth_First |
Mar-16-08 11:56 AM |
#35 |
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Just a suggestion, don't know if it is doable, though |
MissWaverly |
Mar-16-08 12:03 PM |
#37 |
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Short term, not much |
OmahaBlueDog |
Mar-16-08 12:07 PM |
#38 |
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D. No - E. Hell No! |
RC |
Mar-16-08 02:32 PM |
#71 |
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You can't continue giving benefits at 65 & 67 |
OmahaBlueDog |
Mar-16-08 03:37 PM |
#81 |
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I have two more years to go now before I can retire. |
RC |
Mar-16-08 05:05 PM |
#95 |
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problem: no one wants to hire those over 50. What then? |
kineneb |
Mar-18-08 12:38 PM |
#181 |
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OmahaBlueDog, you are true to your name. I heard these "Blue Dogs" on C-Span |
Peace Patriot |
Mar-16-08 04:58 PM |
#92 |
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I'd pretty much rather have root canal than watch C-Span |
OmahaBlueDog |
Mar-16-08 06:49 PM |
#128 |
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It was the day after the Nov 06 election. I was very excited about the Democratic sweep. |
Peace Patriot |
Mar-17-08 10:36 AM |
#160 |
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That's lovely.. |
OmahaBlueDog |
Mar-17-08 09:43 PM |
#179 |
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The goal should not be cutting the deficit, the goal should be stimulating |
Peace Patriot |
Mar-18-08 05:29 PM |
#184 |
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Destroy the Federal Reserve System |
Ikonoklast |
Mar-16-08 12:12 PM |
#39 |
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What a horrible, horrible idea |
HamdenRice |
Mar-16-08 12:21 PM |
#42 |
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Exactly |
bicentennial_baby |
Mar-16-08 12:39 PM |
#46 |
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Never said to go back to the gold standard |
Ikonoklast |
Mar-16-08 12:53 PM |
#49 |
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quote "Since the dollar isn't backed by precious metals anymore" |
HamdenRice |
Mar-16-08 01:00 PM |
#50 |
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Check out the article in the NYT magazine about the SC |
bicentennial_baby |
Mar-16-08 01:05 PM |
#53 |
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Point taken! Bad example, huh? |
HamdenRice |
Mar-16-08 01:09 PM |
#54 |
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Heehee... |
bicentennial_baby |
Mar-16-08 01:12 PM |
#56 |
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Actually, 'far-right wing nutjobs' established the Federal Reserve |
Ikonoklast |
Mar-16-08 01:11 PM |
#55 |
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And as per usual, you get Crickets when you post something like this. |
TheWatcher |
Mar-16-08 04:34 PM |
#91 |
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The Fed was set up for the benefit of private banks. Period. |
Ikonoklast |
Mar-16-08 05:29 PM |
#99 |
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No, it wasn't |
HamdenRice |
Mar-16-08 05:31 PM |
#101 |
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Perhaps you hear crickets because |
HamdenRice |
Mar-16-08 05:30 PM |
#100 |
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Far right nutjobs like Woodrow Wilson & Democratic Congress of 1913 & FDR? |
HamdenRice |
Mar-16-08 05:28 PM |
#98 |
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You know about Jekyll Island, right? |
Ikonoklast |
Mar-16-08 05:38 PM |
#102 |
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And you know about the 1913 Democratic Congress, right? |
HamdenRice |
Mar-16-08 05:45 PM |
#103 |
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It was a Democratic Congress, but just as we can plainly see today, |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-16-08 07:36 PM |
#138 |
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But once again, you get Crickets from the poster who thinks he knows everything about the Fed. |
TheWatcher |
Mar-17-08 04:17 AM |
#147 |
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I hope so too. |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-17-08 02:00 PM |
#168 |
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With Bush in office, nothing. |
El Pinko |
Mar-16-08 12:14 PM |
#40 |
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Quit pretending that Wall Street is the be-all and end-all of human existence |
MindPilot |
Mar-16-08 12:23 PM |
#43 |
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find a country with vast reserves of Euros |
leftofthedial |
Mar-16-08 12:36 PM |
#45 |
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If by invade, you mean dropping things that go Kablooey, and if by... |
MilesColtrane |
Mar-17-08 09:47 AM |
#154 |
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Oh, that's easy! |
Peace Patriot |
Mar-16-08 12:46 PM |
#47 |
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i have several ideas |
pitohui |
Mar-16-08 12:48 PM |
#48 |
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import tariffs and much higher minimum wage. nt |
VotesForWomen |
Mar-16-08 01:03 PM |
#52 |
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Yep, protectionism got us where we were, and globalism will just keep screwing us. nt |
bemildred |
Mar-16-08 01:14 PM |
#57 |
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A little protectionism is a good thing. |
AzDar |
Mar-16-08 01:26 PM |
#60 |
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How about more recs for this great thread? I love seeing all the good ideas here! (nt) |
scarletwoman |
Mar-16-08 01:33 PM |
#61 |
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Here´s a kick so that you can keep enjoying this thread. |
Angela Shelley |
Mar-16-08 01:40 PM |
#62 |
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Right now? Nothing. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Mar-16-08 01:44 PM |
#63 |
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Lower the god damn gas prices. |
EOO |
Mar-16-08 01:52 PM |
#64 |
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INVEST IN A NEW NEW DEAL |
Beetwasher |
Mar-16-08 02:01 PM |
#65 |
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You want to save this blood sucking monster? |
kickysnana |
Mar-16-08 02:12 PM |
#67 |
| -
Only Impeachment (yes, really) |
Senator |
Mar-16-08 02:37 PM |
#74 |
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raise wages, control prices on health insurance until reform is in place |
yurbud |
Mar-16-08 02:39 PM |
#75 |
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End Bush's illegal wars. We need to STOP the |
L. Coyote |
Mar-16-08 02:43 PM |
#76 |
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Stop the war, which is costing $250 million a day, that's $1 billion every 4 days |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-16-08 02:45 PM |
#77 |
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Get the fuck out of Iraq, re-establish our manufacturing base, |
MadHound |
Mar-16-08 03:54 PM |
#83 |
| -
Form communes? |
otherlander |
Mar-16-08 04:02 PM |
#84 |
| -
Best answer yet |
IDemo |
Mar-16-08 04:29 PM |
#90 |
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The part about not asking me? |
otherlander |
Mar-17-08 02:32 PM |
#172 |
| -
Communes have always fallen apart. |
MATTMAN |
Mar-16-08 05:50 PM |
#109 |
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so have empires... jus' sayin'... |
kineneb |
Mar-18-08 12:43 PM |
#182 |
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Ideas are fine but good ones must be implemented. |
Karenina |
Mar-16-08 04:03 PM |
#85 |
| -
How about.... |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Mar-16-08 04:11 PM |
#87 |
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Dissolve the Federal Reserve, withdraw from the IMF, close all of the military bases |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-16-08 04:17 PM |
#88 |
| -
If we get rid of the Federal Reserve, we'll see investment banks and |
Mike03 |
Mar-16-08 05:16 PM |
#97 |
| -
The whole central banking system is a blatant Ponzi scheme and it's collapse |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-16-08 06:02 PM |
#118 |
| -
Which section and article of the Constitution is |
Thothmes |
Mar-16-08 09:37 PM |
#144 |
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Section 8. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-17-08 03:32 AM |
#145 |
| -
Which edition of the Constitution do you have |
Thothmes |
Mar-17-08 07:03 AM |
#149 |
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Sorry, I thought that would be enough, here's a link to an online version. |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-17-08 01:01 PM |
#161 |
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That is a broad interpretation of "mandating an economic system" |
Thothmes |
Mar-17-08 07:51 PM |
#175 |
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That is completely beside the point, as is quibbling over the wording of |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-18-08 11:01 AM |
#180 |
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ALL of that and STOP the FED from printing money --- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 05:53 PM |
#111 |
| -
Exactly. There is a very long list of things, in addition to those I listed, that needs to happen. |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-16-08 06:05 PM |
#120 |
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The owners of the country are way ahead of us in pre-planning . . . |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 09:30 PM |
#141 |
| -
Pull the plug on Capitalism. It has *no* unique virtues, but one gigantic, unique fault |
bean fidhleir |
Mar-16-08 05:05 PM |
#94 |
| -
Capitalism is a ridiculous "KIng-of-the-Hill-System" ..... it's over . . . or it will kill us ---- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 05:53 PM |
#112 |
| -
up the minimum wage to $50/hr. N/T |
DeadEyeDyck |
Mar-17-08 08:51 PM |
#177 |
| -
Eventually, We have to Pay Up |
Mike03 |
Mar-16-08 05:09 PM |
#96 |
| -
Bankrupting the Treasury is TREASON . . . impeach Bush --- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 05:54 PM |
#114 |
| -
lower the national debt |
MATTMAN |
Mar-16-08 05:49 PM |
#107 |
| -
NATIONALIZE THE OIL INDUSTRY . . . anyone miss the fact of what this possibly 100 year war is about? |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 05:50 PM |
#110 |
| -
Elect an intelligent President... |
YvonneCa |
Mar-16-08 05:54 PM |
#113 |
| -
Leave IRAQ and Afghanistan immediately . .. |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 05:56 PM |
#115 |
| -
Move our currency from dollars to EUROS . . . !!! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 05:57 PM |
#116 |
| -
You wouldn't be allowed in - too much debt, for one thing. |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-16-08 06:22 PM |
#123 |
| -
Americans can move what they have to EUROS . . . why not? |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 07:30 PM |
#135 |
| -
Sad thing is, without a revolution, the wealthy, powerful, elite... |
superkia |
Mar-16-08 05:58 PM |
#117 |
| -
the majority of people will die to defend the rights of the corporations |
datasuspect |
Mar-16-08 07:20 PM |
#131 |
| -
Put all our money in weed. |
Chovexani |
Mar-16-08 06:03 PM |
#119 |
| -
And legalize marijuana production and consumption (seriously) |
Ghost Dog |
Mar-16-08 06:07 PM |
#121 |
| -
Tax Super Rich - This seemed to help during Clinton Adm. |
pathansen |
Mar-16-08 06:15 PM |
#122 |
| -
I've posted this before with only one or two responses: |
Lorien |
Mar-16-08 06:36 PM |
#125 |
| -
I like your National Prize idea |
bean fidhleir |
Mar-17-08 09:39 AM |
#153 |
| -
They would be seen as far from mild by the ruling elite |
Lorien |
Mar-17-08 09:47 AM |
#155 |
| -
Anyone collecting the ideas here and putting it up as a poll? |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 06:45 PM |
#127 |
| -
The US economy is sick, but it isn't dead |
gravity |
Mar-16-08 07:13 PM |
#129 |
| -
Let me guess, you work in the financial industry. |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-16-08 07:21 PM |
#132 |
| -
guilty |
gravity |
Mar-16-08 07:37 PM |
#139 |
| -
Thank you, I appreciate your forthrightness. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Mar-17-08 04:06 AM |
#146 |
| -
Impeachment. nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Mar-16-08 07:24 PM |
#133 |
| -
Everyone Accepts Reduced Investment Income in Favor of Debt Payment, CEOs Go Back to Making 400k |
Crisco |
Mar-16-08 07:25 PM |
#134 |
| -
I definitely agree with you on the CEO pay. |
Blue_In_AK |
Mar-16-08 07:35 PM |
#137 |
| -
Public works projects to rebuild infrastructure. Start making and building shit. |
AP |
Mar-16-08 07:33 PM |
#136 |
| -
In a word, Nothing. The downward spiral has begun and it is rolling to fast to be stopped. |
sarcasmo |
Mar-16-08 07:38 PM |
#140 |
| -
This time . . . let's not bail out capitalism nor capitalists. . . which means, STOP the FED --- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 09:32 PM |
#142 |
| -
The Congress has to assume responsibility for these political decisions by the FED --- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-08 09:34 PM |
#143 |
| -
a three-part plan . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Mar-17-08 04:31 AM |
#148 |
| -
Maybe if we threw it down a well, or abducted it in Aruba, it would FINALLY GET ON THE F%#@ing NEWS |
kenny blankenship |
Mar-17-08 07:09 AM |
#150 |
| -
Tax the rich, end the war, stop bailing out the corporate whores! |
HughBeaumont |
Mar-17-08 07:19 AM |
#151 |
| -
Simple - Get back control of our essential economy |
LeftHander |
Mar-17-08 07:25 AM |
#152 |
| -
Massive investment in infrastructure, plus |
NewJeffCT |
Mar-17-08 10:19 AM |
#158 |
| -
End NAFTA. |
EnviroBat |
Mar-17-08 10:26 AM |
#159 |
| -
Out of Iraq. Cut the Military budget by 70%. End the drug war. Legalize & TAX Marijuana. SPHC system |
impeachdubya |
Mar-17-08 01:03 PM |
#162 |
| -
Jail the current cabal and disband the GOP. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Mar-17-08 01:29 PM |
#163 |
| -
Well now that the dollar is worth shit |
Geek_Girl |
Mar-17-08 01:51 PM |
#164 |
| -
Regulate the market. |
Rex |
Mar-17-08 01:52 PM |
#165 |
| -
a moritorium on forclosures and an across the board interest rate cut for consumers. |
notadmblnd |
Mar-17-08 01:57 PM |
#167 |
| -
raise wages and salaries |
GTRMAN |
Mar-17-08 02:03 PM |
#170 |
| -
Let people deduct the interest they pay on their home. |
yellerpup |
Mar-17-08 02:12 PM |
#171 |
| -
Invading Canada doesn't seem like such a crazy idea at the moment |
slackmaster |
Mar-17-08 03:33 PM |
#174 |
| -
Elect Ralph Nader N/T |
DeadEyeDyck |
Mar-17-08 08:48 PM |
#176 |
| -
Nationalize all natural resources, start a massive WPA type alternative energy |
Zorra |
Mar-17-08 09:38 PM |
#178 |
| -
Study what FDR did (that worked) and repeat--why struggle for "new" programs? |
librechik |
Mar-18-08 01:21 PM |
#183 |
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