Reply #50: I am posting one more link... just to show I am not making stuff up.

[madfloridian]

The attacks on this page go far deeper than I would ever have imagined. I see Andy Tobias is trying to respond in the comments, and since he is gay I believe, he should be listened to. He is viciously attacked there.

Leah said she is not for gay marriage. But she took it further and said she keeps her church and DNC work separate.

I have never seen anything like these attacks. I hear the DNC has filed for a gag order. Since they are not counter attacking, I sure hope they get it.

I will post this page, with all its bitterness and rage...then I have made my point and I will back off. Good people are being destroyed here. Uselessly.

http://www.queerty.com/hot-seat-for-dean-in-dnc-gay-discrimination-discovery-20080306/

None of them deserve this...not Dean, not Leah, not Obama. They may not be for gay marriage, but they are most certainly not anti-gay. Dean has gone out of his way to build ties.

This is another sad thing facing our party now.

Do you remember what Bill Clinton said about Dean to some financial backers to get them to change to Clark?

On Page 113 of his book "You Have the Power, Dean says:

"It remains to be seen, too, just how much my support for the civil unions bill will hurt my chances to reshape Democratic politics. Some pretty important Democrats have shown they think it might. When former president Clinton was trying to drum up support (for another candidate), just prior to (that candidate's) entry into the presidential race a year ago, he called a friend in a large city and said "I need you to be for Wesley Clark." The friend demurred.

The friend told Clinton he was Dean supporter. "Howard Dean", Clinton said "forfeited his right to run for president when he signed the civil unions bill. He can't win."

It was a rare mistake for the president. The supporter was gay and called us to tip us off.

So I guess he can not win for losing.

Damned if he does the right thing, damned even more when he tries to do it again. Yet most seem very warm to the Clintons on this issue.