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Dad Accused of Forcing Girl to Kill Pet Cat
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Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 10:51 AM by frogcycle
Source: Comcast

A man was jailed Thursday on charges that he forced his 7-year-old daughter to kill the family cat by holding a knife in her hand and making her stab the pet.

Danield J. Collins, 39, told his children during a visit to his home Sunday that he wanted them to "learn how to kill" and gave his 11-year-old son a knife to do it, according to an affidavit filed in the case.

The boy tried to save the cat by hiding it under a sofa bed and putting ketchup on a knife when Collins went to the bathroom. But when the father realized that the cat was not dead, he forced his daughter to hold the knife and then held her hand tightly as he drove the knife into the animal, Muncie police Detective Jami Brown said.

Police said Collins stabbed and strangled the cat himself, and told his son to throw the dead pet in the trash. Officers retrieved the carcass to be used as evidence.


Read more: http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/national/2008/03/... /



Edit for clarification, since, as usual, people tend to read between the lines and jump to conclusions (what else is new?):

I am NOT saying this guy was/is in the military. My entire point is that the referenced thread about the shooting of the 10-year-old is ranting on and on with little or no factual information, and making broad-brush condemnations of the military as a bunch of monsters. I grant that some scumbags are getting in to the military, whereas in saner times without bush's atrocity of a war that would be better controlled, BUT, the military is not CREATING monsters. Here is a prime example of someone completely fucked up in the head in Muncie Indiana. So why not condemn all of Muncie as a bunch of monsters?

end of edit


Just read the thread about the troops shooting the 10-year-old.

Understand something, people. The volunteer army is a sham. What once was what many of us still want it to be - an organization of highly patriotic individuals with a desire to defend the country, using force when necessary in the face of threats (with "a few bad apples" that it polices and eliminates asap) - has of necessity, due to bush's illegal war of aggression and brutal occupation, reduced recruiting standards time and again. People with criminal records are accepted, low-intelligence individuals are accepted, and, in all likelihood, people with the character of the guy in this article are accepted, because the flow of "good guys" into the service has diminished and the demand for more headcount has escalated.

I don't try to rationalize the killing of the 10-year-old; I wasn't there and accept that there is some remote possibility it was an honest error (people DO shoot the little old lady targets in the training exercises; it IS extremely difficult to make the right snap judgment every time). By the same token, I know there are assholes like this brute now in the service, and they are probably licking their chops for the chance to "plug somebody." When you recruit scumbags, you can train them to kill, and give them the equipment with which to do it, but you cannot train the scumbag-ness out of them.

People like this guy are unreconstructable and any sane society would eliminate them. Same goes for most of the hate crime perps. We are so fucked up we will eventually self destruct as a species.
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  -Dad Accused of Forcing Girl to Kill Pet Cat frogcycle  Mar-14-08 09:55 AM   #0 
  - What the fuck is wrong with people today?  AndyA   Mar-14-08 10:02 AM   #1 
  - On edit - removed. I misunderstood the OP. Apologies. (n/t)  IndyOp   Mar-14-08 10:21 AM   #11 
  - Sorry, nothing in the linked article says that.  JBoy   Mar-14-08 10:35 AM   #20 
     - Thanks. I removed my comment. I apologize. I thought I understood the OP, but didn't read article.  IndyOp   Mar-14-08 10:50 AM   #25 
        - No problem, the OP was confusing as hell.  JBoy   Mar-14-08 10:54 AM   #27 
           - yeah, sorry  frogcycle   Mar-14-08 10:56 AM   #29 
              - Keep on talking, keep on writing - you've got heart frogcycle, and we need that! (n/t)  IndyOp   Mar-14-08 11:16 AM   #30 
  - this is so deeply sick - WTF is going on?!  katty   Mar-14-08 11:23 AM   #32 
  - The military is made up of a lot of individuals. The vast majority of them are no different from  Mountainman   Mar-14-08 10:05 AM   #2 
  - not what I intended at all  frogcycle   Mar-14-08 10:12 AM   #5 
  - OK, my misreading of your post also. Sorry  Mountainman   Mar-14-08 10:17 AM   #9 
  - I think you are right. There will be a whole new breed of killers...  Xenotime   Mar-14-08 07:48 PM   #49 
  - dead cat = war in Iraq rant on the military  DS1   Mar-14-08 10:05 AM   #3 
  - see my response above  frogcycle   Mar-14-08 10:14 AM   #6 
     - have you been in the military in the last 5 years?  DS1   Mar-14-08 10:16 AM   #8 
        - I can think of a few examples.  iaviate1   Mar-14-08 10:23 AM   #12 
        - not relevant to the subject  DS1   Mar-14-08 10:24 AM   #13 
        - I give up  frogcycle   Mar-14-08 10:43 AM   #22 
        - I have been and still am  14thColony   Mar-14-08 12:04 PM   #35 
           - Thanks for the input  frogcycle   Mar-14-08 05:34 PM   #45 
  - I Wonder If 41 Did This To 43 When He Was A Kid........nt  global1   Mar-14-08 10:09 AM   #4 
  - Sick bastard n/t  barb162   Mar-14-08 10:15 AM   #7 
  - sel delete....  mike_c   Mar-14-08 10:19 AM   #10 
  - Where did it say he's in the military?  DS1   Mar-14-08 10:26 AM   #15 
     - oops, I edited it....  mike_c   Mar-14-08 10:30 AM   #17 
  - This man must be batshit crazy. This is a terrible kind of abuse. nt  raccoon   Mar-14-08 10:25 AM   #14 
  - Very sad  last_texas_dem   Mar-14-08 10:27 AM   #16 
  - Hold on! Where does it say this guy was in the military??  JBoy   Mar-14-08 10:33 AM   #18 
  - geez that was not the point  frogcycle   Mar-14-08 10:40 AM   #21 
  - I can't read about this stuff. Tales of animal abuse this severe  kestrel91316   Mar-14-08 10:35 AM   #19 
  - it's also horrific child abuse.  Sock Puppet   Mar-14-08 10:44 AM   #23 
  - People are such douchebags to cats sometimes.  ryanmuegge   Mar-14-08 10:47 AM   #24 
  - actually, no  frogcycle   Mar-14-08 10:54 AM   #28 
  - Yes, but the lack of decent paying jobs and high cost of college make joining the military much more  ryanmuegge   Mar-14-08 12:14 PM   #37 
  - No, there's no excuse for being a sadistic psychopath  Lorien   Mar-14-08 11:30 AM   #33 
  - He wouldn't have done that if I had been in the room with him.  Hissyspit   Mar-14-08 10:53 AM   #26 
  - I would like one hour alone in a room with that sub-human monster.  1620rock   Mar-14-08 11:22 AM   #31 
  - Sick fucker.  Confound W   Mar-14-08 11:48 AM   #34 
  - How about the KIDS? That's some serious  Hannah Bell   Mar-14-08 02:32 PM   #42 
  - Excuse my French...  OhioChick   Mar-14-08 12:06 PM   #36 
  - Idea!  14thColony   Mar-14-08 12:16 PM   #38 
  - Good Idea. n/t  OhioChick   Mar-14-08 12:17 PM   #39 
  - It's already dead  DS1   Mar-14-08 12:26 PM   #40 
  - May his death be equally terrifying and pointless  mitchum   Mar-14-08 12:27 PM   #41 
  - You don't even want to know what I'd consider an acceptable punishment for this filth.  seawolf   Mar-14-08 03:03 PM   #43 
  - If I witnessed this sick fuck doing this, I'd take my baseball bat to him  Bigleaf   Mar-14-08 03:11 PM   #44 
  - It's sad enough when a sweet kitty dies....  danagsk8   Mar-14-08 05:46 PM   #46 
  - That poor kitty and those poor kids....  and-justice-for-all   Mar-14-08 06:45 PM   #47 
  - Oh, my God . . .  Brigid   Mar-14-08 07:42 PM   #48 
  - Just thought of the perfect punishment:  Brigid   Mar-14-08 09:14 PM   #50 
 

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