undeterred
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:00 PM
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| Poll question: Is there such a thing as men's rights when it comes to abortion? |  |
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Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 01:06 PM by undeterred
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Is there such a thing as men's rights when it comes to abortion? |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 01:00 PM |
#0 |

There are no men's or women's rights in abortion. There is the individual's right |
mondo joe |
Mar-10-08 01:02 PM |
#1 |
 
That's how I see it too. nt |
Deep13 |
Mar-10-08 01:05 PM |
#7 |
 
Great Answer! BTW, Can I Vote More Than Once? |
anonymeme |
Mar-11-08 02:12 AM |
#152 |
 
Which is why Ruth Bader Ginsburg proposes to view right to abortion |
question everything |
Mar-11-08 09:44 PM |
#180 |
 
Yes, but with rights comes responsibility. |
kwenu |
Mar-11-08 10:34 PM |
#186 |

Why start a poll if you're not going to have any options? |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-10-08 01:03 PM |
#2 |
 
What options do you want? |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 01:05 PM |
#8 |

I'm just saying that you have a poll with no options. |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-10-08 01:06 PM |
#11 |

The right to an abortion is a right to bodily integrity. |
Deep13 |
Mar-10-08 01:04 PM |
#3 |

Boy this poll isn't biased at all. |
youthere |
Mar-10-08 01:04 PM |
#4 |
 
Well, clearly I don't think they have any rights |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 01:08 PM |
#16 |

But yet you forgot to include a way for people who think they do to vote that belief. |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-10-08 01:09 PM |
#20 |
 
#2 No but there should be |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 01:10 PM |
#23 |

Meant to write "do." Changed it a second too late. Anyway, why isn't there a "yes" option? |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-10-08 01:10 PM |
#24 |

The question isn't should they- its do they |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 01:13 PM |
#28 |
 
Right. So why isn't there an option allowing people to say "yes, they do?" If you wanted to see |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-10-08 01:16 PM |
#30 |

There should be the |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 05:03 PM |
#64 |

tie it in a bow |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 06:31 PM |
#93 |

You're right... |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 06:53 PM |
#97 |

I'd like to know why you think they should |
melody |
Mar-10-08 01:16 PM |
#31 |
 
Some men think they should be notified when a partner |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 01:22 PM |
#32 |

Well, when their body is ravaged by nine months of pregnancy, they can have a choice |
melody |
Mar-10-08 01:25 PM |
#33 |
 
You know, you two could at least TRY to look beyond your own preconceptions. |
TheWraith |
Mar-11-08 02:32 AM |
#153 |

There is only one choice in this -- parsimony, the least invasive choice |
melody |
Mar-11-08 06:04 PM |
#173 |

If There's A Relationship, You'd Hope So |
Raejeanowl |
Mar-10-08 11:43 PM |
#142 |

MEN DON'T HAVE A RIGHT AT ALL. |
trueblue2007 |
Mar-11-08 12:55 PM |
#160 |

Well, for the record... |
youthere |
Mar-10-08 01:54 PM |
#44 |

As soon as they win the right to become pregnant. |
DemItAllAnyway |
Mar-10-08 01:04 PM |
#5 |

Abstain? You're joking, right? Abstinence policies do squat. |
HypnoToad |
Mar-10-08 01:05 PM |
#6 |
 
No they don't, but an individual man still has a right not to throw the dice... |
Deep13 |
Mar-10-08 01:06 PM |
#13 |
 
You certainly aren't some kind |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 05:08 PM |
#65 |

I dont have a uterus, so I'm not gonna touch this issue |
NightWatcher |
Mar-10-08 01:05 PM |
#9 |
 
DING DING DING....!!!!! |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 05:10 PM |
#67 |
 
Bless your heart. That is pretty much what my husband says. While we both believe that... |
Hekate |
Mar-11-08 09:58 PM |
#183 |

They have a right to pull out and shoot it somewhere else |
Xenotime |
Mar-10-08 01:05 PM |
#10 |
 
coitus interruptus method of BC??? nice... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Mar-10-08 01:06 PM |
#12 |
 
That's unreliable for a variety of reasons. |
Deep13 |
Mar-10-08 01:08 PM |
#17 |
  
Hormones are more effective than condoms, better throw out the raincoat. |
K-W |
Mar-10-08 06:17 PM |
#87 |
 
now that's the mature form of birth control |
Donnachaidh |
Mar-10-08 01:08 PM |
#19 |

The favorite of fumbling 16-year-olds everywhere! |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-10-08 01:09 PM |
#22 |

thank you for putting in option four |
Donnachaidh |
Mar-10-08 01:07 PM |
#14 |

Men can't die in childbirth. n/t |
Hissyspit |
Mar-10-08 01:07 PM |
#15 |

I voted other. |
TCJ70 |
Mar-10-08 01:08 PM |
#18 |

Most of the people making the decisions re what choices are/will be allowed are male, |
havocmom |
Mar-10-08 01:09 PM |
#21 |

No |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Mar-10-08 01:11 PM |
#25 |
 
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Mar-10-08 05:23 PM |
#70 |

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Mar-11-08 12:18 PM |
#155 |

You mean should a man be able to force a woman to carry his spawn to term? |
alphafemale |
Mar-10-08 01:11 PM |
#26 |

practicing push polls? |
Clovis Sangrail |
Mar-10-08 01:12 PM |
#27 |

Nope |
MonkeyFunk |
Mar-10-08 01:15 PM |
#29 |

For me, its iffy. |
Bright Eyes |
Mar-10-08 01:26 PM |
#34 |

No one male or female is subject to anyone having any right to control or know anything |
RGBolen |
Mar-10-08 01:28 PM |
#35 |

The father may be dead, or religious right judges may interpret that they state |
demigoddess |
Mar-10-08 01:32 PM |
#36 |

Yes. They have their right to their opinion on the topic. |
flvegan |
Mar-10-08 01:33 PM |
#37 |

when female-to-male fetal transplantation comes about... |
kineneb |
Mar-10-08 01:38 PM |
#38 |

Men, if you don't want a kid don't F---. |
genie_weenie |
Mar-10-08 01:42 PM |
#39 |

Yes. Men have a right NOT to have an abortion if they don't like it. |
devilgrrl |
Mar-10-08 01:46 PM |
#40 |

Why not ask the reverse? |
lunatica |
Mar-10-08 01:47 PM |
#41 |
 
Women don't have a long and glorious history of trying to control men's bodies. |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 01:49 PM |
#42 |

..... |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 05:28 PM |
#71 |
 
... |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 06:29 PM |
#91 |
  
... |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 07:12 PM |
#106 |
 
... |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 07:19 PM |
#108 |
 
... |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 09:05 PM |
#117 |
 
What are you living in the 1950's? |
walldude |
Mar-10-08 09:44 PM |
#127 |

Can we clone you? |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 10:31 PM |
#135 |
 
I get that a lot... So does my wife. |
walldude |
Mar-10-08 10:53 PM |
#139 |
 
Hey, If You're Taking Orders for Those Clones... |
anonymeme |
Mar-11-08 01:37 AM |
#150 |

We have a housekeeper twice a week. |
femrap |
Mar-11-08 06:03 PM |
#172 |

I personally think that some men |
hyphenate |
Mar-10-08 06:29 PM |
#92 |

Other - depends on the relationship |
housewolf |
Mar-10-08 01:50 PM |
#43 |
 
How exactly does one determine the value of a relationship? |
wuushew |
Mar-10-08 02:18 PM |
#47 |

That's why I said it depends on the relationship |
housewolf |
Mar-10-08 05:00 PM |
#62 |

When technologically possible |
realpolitik |
Mar-10-08 01:54 PM |
#45 |
 
Who is 'they?' |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 05:31 PM |
#73 |

I'm a male and there should not be mens rights in abortion |
blues90 |
Mar-10-08 02:11 PM |
#46 |

Actually, yes. |
kestrel91316 |
Mar-10-08 02:20 PM |
#48 |

No. A man has no rights to a woman's body. |
WinkyDink |
Mar-10-08 02:23 PM |
#49 |
 
see #51-- women can't have it both ways.... |
mike_c |
Mar-10-08 02:53 PM |
#53 |

Ya mean like SpRitzer? |
Karenina |
Mar-10-08 05:08 PM |
#66 |

And the woman can look elsewhere for |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 05:34 PM |
#74 |
 
LOL-- not to mention a sure route to reproductive failure.... |
mike_c |
Mar-10-08 05:45 PM |
#77 |

I'm not kidding... |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 06:04 PM |
#82 |

ouch.... |
mike_c |
Mar-10-08 07:24 PM |
#109 |

You're making no sense. |
JerseygirlCT |
Mar-11-08 09:43 PM |
#179 |

Can we remember for a moment that abortion isn't a light decision? |
lunatica |
Mar-10-08 02:42 PM |
#50 |
 
it is not an "extremely difficult decision" for all women. |
kmlewis |
Mar-10-08 04:58 PM |
#61 |
  
I had the same experience. |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 05:38 PM |
#75 |
 
Some women know exactly what they want |
lunatica |
Mar-10-08 06:28 PM |
#90 |
  
Hey...dalai. |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 07:09 PM |
#105 |
 
I see no reason for your rudeness |
lunatica |
Mar-11-08 01:08 PM |
#163 |
 
You said that I was denigrating others.... |
femrap |
Mar-11-08 05:41 PM |
#166 |
 
Nor for most of the women I know who've had them. |
Iris |
Mar-10-08 09:43 PM |
#126 |
 
It was for me. |
kimmylavin |
Mar-10-08 10:53 PM |
#138 |
 
And really, you're bottom line is the bottom line |
Iris |
Mar-10-08 10:58 PM |
#140 |
 
I think that's why its easier for many women to make it alone. |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 06:40 PM |
#94 |

I say yes, but effectively no.... |
mike_c |
Mar-10-08 02:44 PM |
#51 |

It's the woman's body, so... nope. |
SmokingJacket |
Mar-10-08 02:47 PM |
#52 |

Yes, men should have a say. |
Behind the Aegis |
Mar-10-08 03:01 PM |
#54 |
 
I think the man's rights |
supernova |
Mar-10-08 03:08 PM |
#55 |
  
I can see your point in a minor way. |
Behind the Aegis |
Mar-10-08 03:16 PM |
#58 |
 
This is a tough one, |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 04:21 PM |
#60 |
  
A male ALWAYS HAS A CHOICE.... |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 05:53 PM |
#79 |
   
I never cease to be amazed at how careless |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 06:15 PM |
#86 |
  
Women know the price of |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 07:05 PM |
#102 |
  
I agree with the idea that to carry to term or not will eventually lie with the woman. |
Behind the Aegis |
Mar-11-08 01:22 AM |
#149 |
 
No, you have failed |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 05:47 PM |
#78 |
 
Must be sad to be that filled with rage that basic reading skills are destroyed. |
Behind the Aegis |
Mar-11-08 01:17 AM |
#148 |
 
rib removal can change your life. |
femrap |
Mar-11-08 05:42 PM |
#168 |
 
so can a lobotomy. |
Behind the Aegis |
Mar-11-08 09:38 PM |
#177 |
 
And why didn't you make this great |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 05:44 PM |
#76 |
  
What a pathetic response. |
Behind the Aegis |
Mar-11-08 01:11 AM |
#147 |
 
2 words.....Rib Removal. |
femrap |
Mar-11-08 05:46 PM |
#169 |
 
2 words...no thanks! |
Behind the Aegis |
Mar-11-08 09:37 PM |
#176 |
 
Ethically, perhaps, and depending on their relationship. Legally? |
JerseygirlCT |
Mar-11-08 09:45 PM |
#181 |

That's more of my stance (be it wide). |
Behind the Aegis |
Mar-11-08 10:16 PM |
#185 |

If you are asking "IS", not "should", of course there is. |
uppityperson |
Mar-10-08 03:13 PM |
#56 |

When they start being able to become impregnated, then yes. |
Lex |
Mar-10-08 03:15 PM |
#57 |

It takes two people to create but only one gets to decide. |
klyon |
Mar-10-08 03:23 PM |
#59 |

Please EJACULATE RESPONSIBLY! nt |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 05:02 PM |
#63 |
 
This sums it up, |
SarahBelle |
Mar-10-08 05:54 PM |
#80 |
 
This is an atrocious argument. |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-10-08 06:54 PM |
#99 |

It's a pretty moot question, regardless of the answer |
jpljr77 |
Mar-10-08 05:16 PM |
#68 |

Other |
Jed Dilligan |
Mar-10-08 05:22 PM |
#69 |
 
That's why I voted other as well. n/t |
TCJ70 |
Mar-10-08 05:31 PM |
#72 |
 
The male already made his CHOICE. |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 05:59 PM |
#81 |

Males can be lied to about what measures partners take, |
Jed Dilligan |
Mar-10-08 06:07 PM |
#83 |
 
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Mar-10-08 07:00 PM |
#100 |
  
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Mar-10-08 08:48 PM |
#110 |
 
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Mar-10-08 08:55 PM |
#113 |
 
It's not "fine" to walk away |
Jed Dilligan |
Mar-10-08 09:12 PM |
#118 |
 
Listen, I don't want anyone controlling anyone.... |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 09:40 PM |
#124 |
 
You are very weird. And apparently religious |
Jed Dilligan |
Mar-10-08 09:42 PM |
#125 |
 
Poor Jed...no, I'm not |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 10:16 PM |
#131 |
 
After its attempt at stalking is deterred by a brave moderator |
Jed Dilligan |
Mar-10-08 10:24 PM |
#132 |
 
Mother of God. |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 10:33 PM |
#136 |
 
That's the Mother of Jesus.... |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 10:38 PM |
#137 |
 
You have fully communicated the depth of your hatred and prejudice |
Jed Dilligan |
Mar-10-08 11:43 PM |
#143 |
  
... |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 11:47 PM |
#144 |
   
If that's not sarcastic, thanks |
Jed Dilligan |
Mar-11-08 05:50 PM |
#171 |
  
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Mar-11-08 05:27 PM |
#164 |
 
Yes, no woman was ever in an abusive relationship |
Jed Dilligan |
Mar-11-08 05:42 PM |
#167 |
 
Ummm please dont discuss theology |
DadOf2LittleAngels |
Mar-11-08 02:39 AM |
#154 |
 
Organized religion just |
femrap |
Mar-11-08 05:29 PM |
#165 |
 
Don't bother it with facts |
Jed Dilligan |
Mar-11-08 05:49 PM |
#170 |
 
If a man is stupid enough to leave that responsibility to a woman he deserves whatever |
RGBolen |
Mar-11-08 10:08 PM |
#184 |

The woman already made her CHOICE. |
TCJ70 |
Mar-10-08 06:08 PM |
#84 |
 
You see....that last line makes all of |
femrap |
Mar-10-08 07:04 PM |
#101 |

The female already made her CHOICE. |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-10-08 06:46 PM |
#95 |
 
For some, "equality" is a one-way street. nt |
Jed Dilligan |
Mar-10-08 08:52 PM |
#111 |

And the woman chose to accept it as well. |
hiaasenrocks |
Mar-10-08 08:59 PM |
#115 |

Maybe it's one of the "all hetero sex is rape" crowd. |
Jed Dilligan |
Mar-10-08 09:20 PM |
#121 |

Could be. I don't expect to have a rational discussion of this issue with people who |
hiaasenrocks |
Mar-11-08 06:51 PM |
#174 |

Yes, under the current laws fathers have some rights. |
I work for workers |
Mar-10-08 06:14 PM |
#85 |
 
But isn't a PBA only done under circumstances |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 06:27 PM |
#88 |
  
Beats me, I'm just pointing out the law. nt |
I work for workers |
Mar-10-08 06:53 PM |
#98 |
 
What state's law is this? (nm) |
Book Lover |
Mar-10-08 08:52 PM |
#112 |

The Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. |
I work for workers |
Mar-10-08 08:59 PM |
#116 |

Of course |
Book Lover |
Mar-11-08 01:44 AM |
#151 |

Yes: it's identical to our right of medical privacy |
dmesg |
Mar-10-08 06:28 PM |
#89 |

if men were to be the pregnant ones, |
onethatcares |
Mar-10-08 06:53 PM |
#96 |

As a Man, I Have the Right |
fascisthunter |
Mar-10-08 07:05 PM |
#103 |

No n/t |
ismnotwasm |
Mar-10-08 07:07 PM |
#104 |

No. |
apocalypsehow |
Mar-10-08 07:17 PM |
#107 |

There should be more responsibility during sex. |
hiaasenrocks |
Mar-10-08 08:58 PM |
#114 |
 
People should stop being so presumptuous as to think they're divinely placed on earth to proclaim |
impeachdubya |
Mar-10-08 09:18 PM |
#120 |

Like everyone else, I'm sure you have views about what people should and shouldn't do |
hiaasenrocks |
Mar-11-08 06:53 PM |
#175 |

Nope. I'm not interested in telling other people what they can or can't do with their OWN bodies. |
impeachdubya |
Mar-12-08 02:32 AM |
#187 |

Did I miss something? Can men get pregnant now? |
impeachdubya |
Mar-10-08 09:16 PM |
#119 |
 
YES exactly! |
varelse |
Mar-10-08 09:29 PM |
#122 |
 
Interested? They're calling for male volunteers. |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 09:52 PM |
#130 |

Not really no, but |
walldude |
Mar-10-08 09:39 PM |
#123 |
 
If she keeps a secret about something like a pregnancy |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 09:49 PM |
#128 |

Does anyone have the right to force a woman to continue .... |
TexasBushwhacker |
Mar-10-08 09:51 PM |
#129 |
 
And from practical standpoint - what does the "right" matter when the woman can make the decision |
Iris |
Mar-10-08 10:26 PM |
#134 |

no n/t |
Skittles |
Mar-10-08 10:24 PM |
#133 |

I'm inclined to say no, but |
margotb822 |
Mar-10-08 10:59 PM |
#141 |

I think men should have some rights as far as an abortion goes. |
MiltonF |
Mar-10-08 11:53 PM |
#145 |
 
Yeah, good luck with that. |
undeterred |
Mar-10-08 11:58 PM |
#146 |

Absolutely, Positively NOT!! |
zorahopkins |
Mar-11-08 12:20 PM |
#156 |

I can imagine a situation where not discussing it with the man is jerkish. And one where it isn't. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Mar-11-08 12:22 PM |
#157 |

Oh boy, |
raccoon |
Mar-11-08 12:32 PM |
#158 |

So... |
Ordr |
Mar-11-08 12:42 PM |
#159 |
 
You can give your opinion |
undeterred |
Mar-11-08 12:59 PM |
#161 |

I imagine that... |
LanternWaste |
Mar-11-08 01:05 PM |
#162 |

As soon as men might need abortions, we can talk about their |
JerseygirlCT |
Mar-11-08 09:40 PM |
#178 |

I told my 15 yo son to keep it zipped or keep it covered if he didn't want to be a teenage daddy... |
Hekate |
Mar-11-08 09:57 PM |
#182 |