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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #28
30. if they're the same, then voting third party has no consequences
Florida 2000 showed the importance of this lie.
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  -"The two party system is really a one party system. You could call it the Demublican party genie_weenie  Mar-01-08 09:48 AM   #0 
  - incoming!  ulysses   Mar-01-08 09:49 AM   #1 
  - !  TahitiNut   Mar-01-08 02:09 PM   #43 
  - Nope, I've been saying it for a year, but I'm doing something about it  kelligesq   Mar-01-08 09:55 AM   #2 
  - The only thing I disagree with you  genie_weenie   Mar-01-08 10:00 AM   #3 
     - And that's why we have the Electoral College. We The People were not to be trusted by  OmmmSweetOmmm   Mar-01-08 10:06 AM   #5 
     - You! Yes You! Who let you out to express an opinion on Government!  genie_weenie   Mar-02-08 01:14 PM   #57 
        - ----------->  OmmmSweetOmmm   Mar-02-08 02:45 PM   #58 
        - Exactly. That's what the New World Order is. And its taken over. Go here:  kelligesq   Mar-03-08 01:54 PM   #70 
           - Kick it for restoring the Constitution and our Sovereignty -  kelligesq   Mar-03-08 02:42 PM   #71 
     - Right . . only the propertied could vote. Slavery compromise leading to Civil War ---  defendandprotect   Mar-02-08 10:29 PM   #60 
  - prediction  mdmc   Mar-01-08 10:06 AM   #4 
  - why would anyone who replies positively be banned?  ulysses   Mar-01-08 10:09 AM   #6 
  - this is a dem party site..  mdmc   Mar-01-08 10:16 AM   #8 
     - I'v been saying this for years-- ever since I joined DU...  mike_c   Mar-01-08 10:19 AM   #10 
     - thanks for your thoughts  mdmc   Mar-01-08 12:50 PM   #38 
     - criticism of the party has always been allowed.  ulysses   Mar-01-08 10:23 AM   #14 
  - mdmc in some ways I agree but in some ways I disagree  UALRBSofL   Mar-01-08 10:58 AM   #21 
     - a very good summary  mdmc   Mar-01-08 03:47 PM   #47 
  - It's true. With *maybe* a dozen exceptions, everyone in DC is on the same "team"  leftofthedial   Mar-01-08 10:13 AM   #7 
  - Of course, Rulers  genie_weenie   Mar-01-08 10:19 AM   #9 
  - K&R-- it's true, there are simply two flavors of the MIC war economy party...  mike_c   Mar-01-08 10:21 AM   #11 
  - He's right,  LWolf   Mar-01-08 10:22 AM   #12 
  - K&R #5 for Dennis!  stimbox   Mar-01-08 10:22 AM   #13 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-01-08 10:36 AM   #15 
  - Yep. Eject the DLC membership.  Xithras   Mar-01-08 02:41 PM   #45 
     - Just how big is that tumor when you know that the "blue dogs" meet  defendandprotect   Mar-02-08 10:37 PM   #61 
  - a lot of people, including Kucinich, know he's lying about this  Enrique   Mar-01-08 10:42 AM   #16 
  - Please high-lite the differences in both parties (n/t)  AlphaCentauri   Mar-01-08 11:22 AM   #26 
  - the Housing Bill, to name a recent example  Enrique   Mar-01-08 11:34 AM   #27 
     - I guess they disagree in the implementation but not in the end result n/t  AlphaCentauri   Mar-01-08 11:57 AM   #35 
     - is that true?  Enrique   Mar-01-08 12:12 PM   #36 
     - The final result will be to bail the investors not the homeowner  AlphaCentauri   Mar-01-08 04:48 PM   #51 
  - It's a mischaracterization, not a lie.  sfexpat2000   Mar-01-08 11:41 AM   #28 
     - if they're the same, then voting third party has no consequences  Enrique   Mar-01-08 11:48 AM   #30 
        - You could argue it the other way, too, that both major parties  sfexpat2000   Mar-01-08 11:49 AM   #32 
        - you couldn't argue that convincingly  Enrique   Mar-01-08 11:55 AM   #33 
           - Well, what about Senate Democrats? They had an opportunity  sfexpat2000   Mar-01-08 11:57 AM   #34 
        - Bush didn't win FL  Hydra   Mar-01-08 01:33 PM   #40 
        - voting for Nader had consequences  Enrique   Mar-01-08 01:38 PM   #41 
        - 1% of the vote  Hydra   Mar-01-08 01:45 PM   #42 
           - How right you are --!! "Our problem is that we let them do it!" . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-04-08 03:22 PM   #77 
        - Buchanan took 16,415 votes in Florida . . . did he steal the election from Gore?  defendandprotect   Mar-02-08 10:42 PM   #62 
        - Third party candidates increase the number of people who come out to vote . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-04-08 03:26 PM   #78 
  - Gore Vidal calls it the "Property Party", and Huey Long pointed out that  bean fidhleir   Mar-01-08 10:46 AM   #17 
  - The difference between Nader and Kucinich  Jim Lane   Mar-01-08 10:47 AM   #18 
  - Why would a Green run in Democratic primaries?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-01-08 11:11 AM   #23 
  - So Nader should have worked  genie_weenie   Mar-01-08 11:12 AM   #24 
  - Kucinich's impact was positive. Nader's was harmful.  Jim Lane   Mar-02-08 09:54 PM   #59 
     - The two major parties support the practices of the "ruling elites" . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-04-08 03:38 PM   #79 
  - As you've probably noticed Kucinich and Edwards were OUT . . . in January?  defendandprotect   Mar-02-08 10:45 PM   #63 
     - Did YOU notice that, in 2004 and this year, Kucinich and Edwards were in debates, and Nader wasn't?  Jim Lane   Mar-03-08 10:53 AM   #68 
        - The year that JFK won the election, he entered the race in AUGUST ---  defendandprotect   Mar-03-08 01:29 PM   #69 
           - A question for you and the others who disdain the Democratic Party  Jim Lane   Mar-03-08 10:16 PM   #72 
              - I "disdain" the DLC and the corporate influence over the Democratic Party --- !!!!  defendandprotect   Mar-04-08 12:31 AM   #73 
                 - Responses  Jim Lane   Mar-04-08 11:19 AM   #74 
                    - The DLC and blue dogs represent Republican interests . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-04-08 02:40 PM   #76 
                       - I don't support the DLC, but I support their right to organize.  Jim Lane   Mar-04-08 10:52 PM   #80 
                          - If you understand our system of campaign funding, you might see it  defendandprotect   Mar-05-08 12:51 AM   #81 
  - Yup. With good cop/bad cop wings.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-01-08 10:52 AM   #19 
  - Thanks Mr. Nader for your post.  applegrove   Mar-01-08 10:57 AM   #20 
  - Corporatist party would be a more appropriate name  notsodumbhillbilly   Mar-01-08 11:07 AM   #22 
  - And the solution is for our Dem nominee to choose RON PAUL as VP!  skipos   Mar-01-08 11:15 AM   #25 
  - Ron Paul is just another Demublican!  Enrique   Mar-01-08 11:49 AM   #31 
  - So,  blindpig   Mar-01-08 11:44 AM   #29 
  - Everything he states in that video is true, so what's the point?  greyhound1966   Mar-01-08 12:24 PM   #37 
  - A conversation with Dennis Kucinich...  slipslidingaway   Mar-01-08 12:53 PM   #39 
  - He's earned my vote with his postions on this and other associated issues.  TahitiNut   Mar-01-08 02:13 PM   #44 
  - Mine as well...  slipslidingaway   Mar-01-08 02:45 PM   #46 
     - "Democratic Party that has lost its will to fight these people..."  Disturbed   Mar-01-08 04:05 PM   #49 
        - I would say yes or maybe they believe that what this administration  slipslidingaway   Mar-01-08 05:59 PM   #52 
  - !!!  lynnertic   Mar-02-08 10:08 AM   #56 
  - And he is right and unlike Nader is working to change one  Warren Stupidity   Mar-01-08 03:57 PM   #48 
  - Rather, it looks like the Dem party "reformed" Kucinich . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-02-08 10:52 PM   #64 
  - He's not the only one saying that  varelse   Mar-01-08 04:38 PM   #50 
  - Everyone recognizes the truth of it --- it's undeniable ---  defendandprotect   Mar-02-08 10:57 PM   #65 
  - Go Dennis! That is why the MSM, corporations and the sheeple did not choose him.  Jesuswasntafascist   Mar-01-08 07:59 PM   #53 
  - Yet Kucinich remains a Democrat  eridani   Mar-01-08 11:07 PM   #54 
  - In NJ legislature, we had a terrific guy who was a Dem switch to Green Party . . .  defendandprotect   Mar-02-08 11:00 PM   #66 
  - boo, i can only recommend threads started in the last 24 hrs  lynnertic   Mar-02-08 10:06 AM   #55 
  - No, it was said by George Wallace.  tomreedtoon   Mar-02-08 11:14 PM   #67 
  - Some truths are so obvious that they transcend ideology. nt  Herdin_Cats   Mar-05-08 03:09 AM   #82 
  - ttt  Blue_Tires   Mar-04-08 01:43 PM   #75 
 

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