Reply #23: If Oregon looks firmly in the corporatist Dem camp, as I think it will come November,

[motocicleta]

I will vote for him. Or any other outsider candidate. Our system sucks, representative 2 party democracy sucks, and any time I can make my vote a protest against the system, I will.

I have never understood the Nader-hating passion. The Dems lost 2000 through an incompetent campaign and Clinton's blowjob, and then the Supremes stole it - blaming Nader for the last seven years, especially after the American people refused to do what was necessary to oust the junta, such as a general strike, is the weakest logic yet from a decidedly weak constituency.

You can waste your nearly useless vote (in most states) to prop up the same old bullshit, but what little value the vote has I will use to lodge a protest - provided I am sure I will not help elect grandpa McCain. I may argue against Nader-hating, but there is no way I will actually step into the category that the Nader voters from Florida 2000 occupy. The water is way too murky there. I doubt I could argue so vociferously if I were in their shoes.