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Wed Feb-20-08 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #21 |
| 22. The "all" is yours. But nice try. |
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If I mention "doctors" it's safe to assume I'm making a general assumption about a trend. Now you get to tell me about your doctor who only has your best interests in mind.   |
| -NIU shooter's drugs: Prozac, Ambien, and Xanax |
Bozita |
Feb-20-08 01:25 PM |
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Too bad he stopped using them. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Feb-20-08 01:26 PM |
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um, maybe that's true of the prozac -- not the ambien |
pitohui |
Feb-20-08 01:35 PM |
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There are lots of problems with psch drugs, including Prozac |
AikidoSoul |
Feb-21-08 12:58 AM |
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Sorry about your brother. I think these drugs do sometimes help people, but more often that not, a |
IsItJustMe |
Feb-21-08 08:25 AM |
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Ambien helps alot of people but it was hell for me. Took it after major surgery |
Beausoir |
Feb-21-08 04:41 PM |
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he was obviously not still taking the xanax |
NightWatcher |
Feb-20-08 01:27 PM |
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Actually, I know a bit about anti-depressant tapering... |
Imagine My Surprise |
Feb-20-08 01:50 PM |
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Yep. And I'd like to know why this kid wasn't on anti-psychotic meds. |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-20-08 01:51 PM |
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Why should he have been? |
lizzy |
Feb-21-08 12:20 AM |
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What suggests he needed them? |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Feb-21-08 12:26 AM |
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Agreed There are not counltess violent psychotics. |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-21-08 05:13 AM |
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This is true |
subliminable |
Feb-20-08 02:12 PM |
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April 2000-Lilly's legal strategy disarmed Prozac lawyers |
fed-up |
Feb-20-08 01:58 PM |
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Why should the lawyers make money off of this? |
penguin7 |
Feb-20-08 03:17 PM |
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So is it the drugs' fault? |
varkam |
Feb-20-08 02:09 PM |
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possibly-these powerful drugs can cause profound changes in thought patterns |
fed-up |
Feb-20-08 02:21 PM |
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Or...it could be... |
varkam |
Feb-20-08 02:24 PM |
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that is why they are termed "rare" adverse effects-here are some patient reports |
fed-up |
Feb-20-08 02:40 PM |
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I don't see homicidal rage in that list of side effects. |
varkam |
Feb-20-08 02:51 PM |
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Here ya go (not side effects, but withdrawal symptoms) |
wtmusic |
Feb-20-08 03:07 PM |
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Right. But I was talking about ADRs of the drug itself... |
varkam |
Feb-20-08 03:41 PM |
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Doctors are pushing any and all meds mercilessly |
wtmusic |
Feb-20-08 03:51 PM |
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All doctors are "pushing any and all meds mercilessly"? |
varkam |
Feb-20-08 03:54 PM |
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The "all" is yours. But nice try. |
wtmusic |
Feb-20-08 03:57 PM |
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"If I mention "doctors" it's safe to assume I'm making a general assumption about a trend." |
varkam |
Feb-20-08 05:03 PM |
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Lumping disdain for physicians and science together is...presumptive |
wtmusic |
Feb-20-08 06:29 PM |
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I see it a lot here on DU. |
varkam |
Feb-20-08 08:42 PM |
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I can only back up what I've seen |
wtmusic |
Feb-20-08 11:52 PM |
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Then we have had different experiences. |
AZCat |
Feb-21-08 12:15 AM |
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Medicine is a business, not a charity |
wtmusic |
Feb-21-08 12:29 AM |
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So docs handing out free meds is somehow an insidious plot... |
varkam |
Feb-21-08 12:36 AM |
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Well... |
wtmusic |
Feb-21-08 12:40 AM |
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"you can straw man it to death but its purpose is most definitely to make more money." |
varkam |
Feb-21-08 12:55 AM |
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Good stuff to know: |
wtmusic |
Feb-21-08 01:06 AM |
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Sorry - guess I misjudged your sense of humor. |
varkam |
Feb-21-08 01:12 AM |
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When did I claim it wasn't? |
AZCat |
Feb-21-08 12:38 AM |
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My mechanic is required by CA law to give me an estimate up front |
wtmusic |
Feb-21-08 12:44 AM |
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You need to switch doctors. |
AZCat |
Feb-21-08 12:45 AM |
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delete |
wtmusic |
Feb-21-08 12:47 AM |
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Let me get this straight: |
wtmusic |
Feb-21-08 12:48 AM |
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Having fun with those strawmen? |
AZCat |
Feb-21-08 12:54 AM |
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Calm down, there are no strawmen here. |
wtmusic |
Feb-21-08 12:58 AM |
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Again, you're presenting a strawman. |
AZCat |
Feb-21-08 01:01 AM |
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So your doctor's preliminary exam is free? |
wtmusic |
Feb-21-08 01:08 AM |
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No, but I know how much it costs. |
AZCat |
Feb-21-08 01:11 AM |
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You do understand that anecdotal evidence is bad evidence, right? |
varkam |
Feb-21-08 12:17 AM |
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You just said anecdotal evidence is bad in respond to a post that you titled "I've seen it a lot |
readmoreoften |
Feb-21-08 12:20 AM |
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You should readmoreoften. |
varkam |
Feb-21-08 12:33 AM |
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Oh calm down. I was just messing with you. |
readmoreoften |
Feb-21-08 01:06 AM |
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Sorry - I get uppity at times. |
varkam |
Feb-21-08 04:10 AM |
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from prozac dot com-where the adverse effects are very, very, very carefully worded |
fed-up |
Feb-20-08 05:00 PM |
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But it seems that the majority of the evidence |
varkam |
Feb-20-08 05:04 PM |
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That's my guess-drugs don't work on every patient |
noonwitch |
Feb-20-08 03:11 PM |
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You better believe it is. |
readmoreoften |
Feb-21-08 12:19 AM |
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Ambien has been implicated in some very odd episodes. |
yardwork |
Feb-20-08 02:41 PM |
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Ambien made me hallucinate. |
davsand |
Feb-20-08 04:08 PM |
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Very interesting. I've read lots of accounts of people having odd reactions to Ambien. |
yardwork |
Feb-20-08 04:39 PM |
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Ambien can help people with transient insomnia. |
varkam |
Feb-20-08 05:07 PM |
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link to cnn story-Girlfriend: Shooter was taking cocktail of 3 drugs |
fed-up |
Feb-20-08 02:43 PM |
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WTF? |
varkam |
Feb-20-08 03:43 PM |
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It's beginning to look like what I suspected |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Feb-21-08 12:07 AM |
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There are so many people taking these meds. |
lizzy |
Feb-21-08 12:15 AM |
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Exactly |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Feb-21-08 12:21 AM |
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Scary thing that it's so hard to know which one is going to go off. |
lizzy |
Feb-21-08 12:24 AM |
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People sometimes just seemingly snap. |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Feb-21-08 12:36 AM |
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Ambien and Xanax can cause powerful psychoses in withdrawal. |
readmoreoften |
Feb-21-08 12:27 AM |
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Maybe we should add stupid girlfriends to the list of things to be banned. |
spoony |
Feb-20-08 04:13 PM |
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I've taken Ambien and Xanax before. I must've had a totally different rxn. |
knitter4democracy |
Feb-20-08 07:13 PM |
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I had a retrograde reaction to Xanax. |
junofeb |
Feb-21-08 12:12 AM |
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it's the brushing off and ignoring off the serious adverse effects that is the problem nt |
fed-up |
Feb-21-08 04:38 PM |
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Whoa. Does this mean Tom Cruise was RIGHT? |
Perry Logan |
Feb-21-08 04:40 PM |
#70 |
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