| 1. Then put in a clause that requires the "religious" doctor to pay for any child's entire life needs |
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Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 06:46 AM by Rabrrrrrr
It's only fair - if your religious beliefs require you to force a woman to get pregnant, then you should be held liable to pay for that child's entire life, OR you have to adopt it.
That law is bullshit.
Any hospital that gets ANY government funding at all - even if it's just that they don't have to pay property tax - should be required to provide ALL medical care that's within their means. And ANY doctor or nurse who is licensed by the state should be required to provide ALL medical care, or lose their license.
And any health care provider that will refuse any kind of needed medication for "religious" reasons should have to have a giant banner over their door "WARNING! (list of the objectionable procedures) WILL BE DENIED YOU IN THIS PLACE AND NONE OF THE DOCTORS OR NURSES ARE STATE LICENSED!!!!!" in letters at least seven feet high.
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| -Pennsylvania bill: Allow doctors to deny treatment, medicine on religious grounds |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 06:36 AM |
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Then put in a clause that requires the "religious" doctor to pay for any child's entire life needs |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-18-08 06:45 AM |
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The bill basically legalizes discrimination |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 06:57 AM |
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Working to save a life does not violate the Sabbath |
UncleSepp |
Feb-19-08 03:37 PM |
#192 |
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If a doctor feels someone else shouldn't be doing THEIR work on the sabbath, |
havocmom |
Feb-19-08 09:25 PM |
#198 |
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Then that doctor is practicing no known religion. |
UncleSepp |
Feb-20-08 02:45 PM |
#208 |
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Rabrrrrrr, I keep remembering articles on implanting ape embryos in male apes |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 07:51 PM |
#184 |
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Do you believe in the right of a soldier |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 06:54 AM |
#2 |
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I think it's more complicated than that |
elizfeelinggreat |
Feb-18-08 06:57 AM |
#4 |
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So the SOURCE of their morality matters |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 07:09 AM |
#12 |
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huh? |
elizfeelinggreat |
Feb-18-08 07:19 AM |
#17 |
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again |
elizfeelinggreat |
Feb-18-08 07:22 AM |
#18 |
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Yeah, that makes it clearer |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 07:35 AM |
#24 |
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fyi |
elizfeelinggreat |
Feb-18-08 07:48 AM |
#29 |
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There is a huge difference between a church and a doctor |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 07:56 AM |
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ER - rape- morning after pill |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 08:10 AM |
#43 |
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I guess I wouldn't want |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 08:14 AM |
#48 |
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we'll never know how you would feel unless the issue came up personally |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 08:29 AM |
#57 |
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And what about... |
mentalsolstice |
Feb-18-08 11:30 AM |
#122 |
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you do understand the many facets of the problems with this bill |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 11:34 AM |
#127 |
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Prescribing a contraceptive pill is not "performing a procedure." |
yardwork |
Feb-18-08 10:50 AM |
#107 |
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A doctor can give me a pill, and I don't give a flying fuck how he feels about it. |
Crunchy Frog |
Feb-18-08 12:32 PM |
#149 |
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how presumptuous of you |
elizfeelinggreat |
Feb-19-08 09:50 PM |
#200 |
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a soldier can refuse an ILLEGAL order |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 06:58 AM |
#6 |
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What about conscientious objecters? |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 07:13 AM |
#15 |
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They haven't been licensed to treat all people who need care |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 07:24 AM |
#19 |
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At one time |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 07:51 AM |
#30 |
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IF you are raped and need a pill to ensure your attacker can't use your body another 9 months |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 07:55 AM |
#33 |
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If the rape victim is so young she can't drive |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 08:02 AM |
#38 |
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Sometimes, the father is the perp |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 08:56 AM |
#68 |
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I'm surprised that |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 09:32 AM |
#76 |
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It wasn't needed until you brought up parents as an option for minors |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 10:06 AM |
#90 |
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This Sadie person is off her rocker... |
Solon |
Feb-18-08 10:31 AM |
#98 |
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Don't go making assumptions... |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 10:43 AM |
#103 |
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You assume too much. |
uppityperson |
Feb-20-08 02:33 PM |
#202 |
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You are aware that there is more than one doctor in the US? |
skater314159 |
Feb-18-08 10:50 AM |
#108 |
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So, are you saying this law would be OK with you? nm |
dicksteele |
Feb-18-08 11:04 AM |
#115 |
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Read my other posts in this thread. nm |
skater314159 |
Feb-18-08 11:20 AM |
#121 |
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I did. That's why I asked you that simple question. After reading the new ones, my question remains. |
dicksteele |
Feb-18-08 11:36 AM |
#128 |
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I live in a remote county with NO doctors |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 11:43 AM |
#131 |
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There are no conscientious objectors on the battlefield. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-18-08 07:25 AM |
#20 |
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One assumes they won't be signing on to be soldiers |
JerseygirlCT |
Feb-18-08 01:12 PM |
#155 |
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As long as a woman can seek treatment from another source... |
WillBowden |
Feb-18-08 07:05 AM |
#9 |
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Where does it say this occurs in an ER? |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 07:12 AM |
#14 |
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That's what this law is totally about - giving ER docs the right not to give medication |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-18-08 07:31 AM |
#23 |
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Are you sure that they don't tell a rape victim |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 07:41 AM |
#26 |
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Yes. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-18-08 08:43 AM |
#63 |
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Yes |
rockymountaindem |
Feb-18-08 09:25 AM |
#74 |
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They often do not |
JerseygirlCT |
Feb-18-08 01:13 PM |
#157 |
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Bravo to those who worked to get care for women and get the church to act |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 01:20 PM |
#161 |
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Against Lieberman's wishes, no surprise |
JerseygirlCT |
Feb-18-08 01:26 PM |
#168 |
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Yes. "a lot" does not = all. eom |
uppityperson |
Feb-20-08 02:35 PM |
#203 |
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What about a woman having a miscarriage? |
Crunchy Frog |
Feb-18-08 12:43 PM |
#151 |
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Women of limited means in small communities where doctor choices are limited |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 07:28 AM |
#21 |
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There are no abortion providers |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 07:47 AM |
#27 |
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Thank you for spelling correction. So far, the only logical point you have made here |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 07:57 AM |
#36 |
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Religion vs. conscience |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 08:04 AM |
#39 |
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The bill gives cover to religious arguments against certain treatments |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 08:12 AM |
#46 |
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I re-read the OP |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 08:18 AM |
#50 |
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Then... |
WillBowden |
Feb-18-08 08:48 AM |
#66 |
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And a woman who's in ER after a rape, at a Catholic hospital because it's the only one in the county |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-18-08 08:48 AM |
#65 |
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I have no problem with a provider, in a non-emergency |
JerseygirlCT |
Feb-18-08 01:16 PM |
#158 |
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a woman can't always seek treatment from another source... |
QuestionAll |
Feb-18-08 07:51 AM |
#32 |
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The bill doesn't say |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 08:07 AM |
#41 |
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Referrals do NO good to large numbers of women who have limited access to care |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 08:13 AM |
#47 |
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Why don't Christian Scientists and Jehovah's Witnesses go to medical school? |
blondeatlast |
Feb-18-08 08:29 AM |
#56 |
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the blond shoots... she scores.... |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 09:10 AM |
#71 |
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Thanks. As a blood recipient, I've been asked--NOT KIDDING-- |
blondeatlast |
Feb-18-08 10:38 AM |
#101 |
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My doctor asked me |
geardaddy |
Feb-19-08 03:10 PM |
#190 |
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There is a good documentary about that... |
skater314159 |
Feb-18-08 10:57 AM |
#111 |
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Those aren't medical treatments, though. I'm a lifelong insulin-dependent diabetic-- |
blondeatlast |
Feb-18-08 11:55 AM |
#139 |
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Yes, and that would also solve the problem of high medical costs |
Crunchy Frog |
Feb-18-08 12:55 PM |
#153 |
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That's a fucking stupid argument... |
Solon |
Feb-18-08 09:43 AM |
#82 |
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It's not easy to seek treatment from other sources in many communities. |
yardwork |
Feb-18-08 10:48 AM |
#106 |
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absolutely right! |
elizfeelinggreat |
Feb-18-08 06:55 AM |
#3 |
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Thanks for seeing the point of OP, elizfeelinggreat! |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 07:00 AM |
#8 |
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I'll be away, too |
elizfeelinggreat |
Feb-18-08 07:07 AM |
#11 |
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This one will be worth keeping an eye on |
End Of The Road |
Feb-18-08 07:00 AM |
#7 |
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Writing a scrip for birth control pills does not take a specialist. |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 07:06 AM |
#10 |
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I agree! |
moose65 |
Feb-18-08 07:11 AM |
#13 |
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How many stories in recent years about Pharmacists who refuse to fill scripts? |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 07:51 AM |
#31 |
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I'm religiously opposed to war in Iraq |
Red Zelda |
Feb-18-08 07:15 AM |
#16 |
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You didn't go to school to get a license to practice a profession of paying taxes though |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 07:29 AM |
#22 |
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Recommend for outrage. What century is this? nt |
babylonsister |
Feb-18-08 07:39 AM |
#25 |
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Does it feel like we are living in the pre-quel to The Handmaid's Tale? |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 08:01 AM |
#37 |
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Can the Doctors be fired for the refusal? |
Wizard777 |
Feb-18-08 07:48 AM |
#28 |
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This bill, if it became law, would protect the doctors |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 08:06 AM |
#40 |
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ah, and there's an interesting question |
northzax |
Feb-19-08 01:23 PM |
#186 |
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Laws to protect pharmacists work to protect them from employers. |
havocmom |
Feb-20-08 05:14 PM |
#212 |
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Hypothetical |
chemp |
Feb-18-08 07:57 AM |
#35 |
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Ecellant point! |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 08:08 AM |
#42 |
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Wow. Talk about a strawman |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 08:12 AM |
#45 |
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Not a strawman, but a logical extension of the agenda |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 08:18 AM |
#49 |
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Yeah, by the way-- |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 08:26 AM |
#55 |
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Thank you for keeping this thread kicked |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 08:41 AM |
#62 |
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As far as logic goes-- |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 09:23 AM |
#73 |
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Misrepresent much? |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 09:32 AM |
#75 |
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That woman |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 09:41 AM |
#80 |
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HE exsited. And didn't face anything beyond having to change employers |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 10:02 AM |
#88 |
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Violation of HIPPA law |
skater314159 |
Feb-18-08 11:05 AM |
#116 |
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pre-hippa |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 11:36 AM |
#129 |
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so, do you support this idiotic proposal? |
noiretblu |
Feb-18-08 09:39 AM |
#79 |
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I support |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 09:46 AM |
#84 |
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We all support the right to follow consciences |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 10:10 AM |
#91 |
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no, it is not "different" |
noiretblu |
Feb-18-08 11:32 AM |
#124 |
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WHAT? |
kimmylavin |
Feb-19-08 02:13 PM |
#188 |
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What if a dr denied treatment on a smoker who had emphysema? |
uppityperson |
Feb-20-08 02:43 PM |
#205 |
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Logical? |
skater314159 |
Feb-18-08 11:02 AM |
#114 |
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It doesn't have to be PP though... |
Solon |
Feb-18-08 12:05 PM |
#144 |
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Aww Jeeezus... |
skater314159 |
Feb-18-08 01:54 PM |
#172 |
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For all your brilliance you don't seem to understand what that term means |
uppityperson |
Feb-20-08 02:39 PM |
#204 |
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In many states |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 08:24 AM |
#53 |
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just because their are stupid laws in some states |
noiretblu |
Feb-18-08 09:42 AM |
#81 |
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Some abortion procedures |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 09:55 AM |
#86 |
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That's not the argument, thanks for playing though... |
Solon |
Feb-18-08 09:57 AM |
#87 |
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The statement |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 10:16 AM |
#93 |
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If the purpose is to delay the procedure until it can't be legally done anymore... |
Solon |
Feb-18-08 10:20 AM |
#94 |
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Most are done in 1 visit. nt |
uppityperson |
Feb-20-08 02:45 PM |
#207 |
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most abortions are done in one visit eom |
noiretblu |
Feb-18-08 11:30 AM |
#123 |
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Then Planned Parenthood needs a better HR dept. |
skater314159 |
Feb-18-08 11:00 AM |
#113 |
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The violator of the files was at a private doctor's office |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 11:46 AM |
#132 |
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Didn't this start with WFRA? |
JTFrog |
Feb-18-08 08:11 AM |
#44 |
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Yep, and a lot of us got laughed at when we said THAT was just the beginning |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 08:20 AM |
#52 |
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Some religions object to organ donation and blood transfusion |
Firespirit |
Feb-18-08 08:18 AM |
#51 |
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Weeeelll, reproductive service limits only seem to effect a certain part of the population |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 08:24 AM |
#54 |
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I can't say |
Firespirit |
Feb-18-08 08:32 AM |
#61 |
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I thought it was the Jehovah's Witness |
left is right |
Feb-18-08 08:47 AM |
#64 |
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If I tell them I am an Atheist will they refuse me care based on their beliefs? |
sarcasmo |
Feb-18-08 08:29 AM |
#58 |
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That's what it looks like. And if you worked on the Sabbath and got hurt... |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 08:32 AM |
#60 |
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Or if someone has an STD and is unmarried |
suffragette |
Feb-18-08 01:50 PM |
#171 |
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Or a gay man |
WillBowden |
Feb-18-08 08:52 AM |
#67 |
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Another execellant point. Sorry I missed that branch of the agenda! |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 09:00 AM |
#70 |
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I think |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 09:50 AM |
#85 |
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IF the bill passes and is upheld, there will be more limits |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 10:04 AM |
#89 |
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The slippery slope argument goes both ways, you know |
Sadie4629 |
Feb-18-08 10:11 AM |
#92 |
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WTF? Nobody is forcing women to get care or pills? |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 10:23 AM |
#95 |
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D&X procedure may be appalling, but so is open heart surgery... |
Solon |
Feb-18-08 10:25 AM |
#96 |
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Don't try to confuse poster with facts |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 10:38 AM |
#100 |
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Oh silly me, I thought she may actually want to learn... |
Solon |
Feb-18-08 11:58 AM |
#141 |
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If I'm not married, doctor can refuse me birth control. Like back in the old days. |
uppityperson |
Feb-20-08 02:49 PM |
#210 |
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Already happened in some states with pharmacists refusing to fill lawful scripts |
havocmom |
Feb-20-08 05:26 PM |
#214 |
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Obese and diabetic. Smoker with emphysema. Elderly with heart problem. |
uppityperson |
Feb-20-08 02:46 PM |
#209 |
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Sorry, I feel it's god's will that you are fat, sick, old... no soup for you |
havocmom |
Feb-20-08 05:29 PM |
#216 |
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Wonder how many of these doctors don't want to prescribe Viagra? nt |
raccoon |
Feb-18-08 08:31 AM |
#59 |
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or perform vasectomies. eom |
MindPilot |
Feb-18-08 08:56 AM |
#69 |
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If I remember correctly, my Dad had to shop around for a non-Catholic doctor... |
Solon |
Feb-18-08 12:02 PM |
#143 |
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VIAGRA VIAGRA VIAGRA -- good question!! |
IcyPeas |
Feb-19-08 03:26 PM |
#191 |
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Does this mean that patients don't have to pay the bill if their religion forbids it? |
DFW |
Feb-18-08 09:20 AM |
#72 |
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Damn, I am having an epiphany and YOU are my prophet |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 09:34 AM |
#77 |
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Dammit, What About MY Rights? |
zorahopkins |
Feb-18-08 09:35 AM |
#78 |
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I see by your profile, that you are a female. |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 09:43 AM |
#83 |
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Sharia law validated by the U.S. |
RainDog |
Feb-18-08 10:25 AM |
#97 |
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This is why I am so very excited |
Bluenorthwest |
Feb-18-08 10:33 AM |
#99 |
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PA has always had a strong stand for religious freedom... |
skater314159 |
Feb-18-08 10:42 AM |
#102 |
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I am not about forcing care on anyone who does not want it |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 10:47 AM |
#105 |
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Ok... Ammendment review... |
skater314159 |
Feb-18-08 11:20 AM |
#120 |
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That's a bunch of bullshit, actually... |
Solon |
Feb-18-08 11:50 AM |
#136 |
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Exactly so. nm |
dicksteele |
Feb-18-08 12:31 PM |
#148 |
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What? |
skater314159 |
Feb-18-08 01:59 PM |
#174 |
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I'm using it as an example... |
Solon |
Feb-18-08 02:11 PM |
#175 |
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Jesus Christ. Are you stupidly oversensitive much? |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-19-08 07:00 PM |
#196 |
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This allows doctors to NOT treat people who need treatment |
JerseygirlCT |
Feb-18-08 01:21 PM |
#163 |
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What at least one person here is missing is a rather interesting unintended |
Cerridwen |
Feb-18-08 10:46 AM |
#104 |
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Or, if I am hiring, I can use litmus test to hire only people of one faith? |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 10:51 AM |
#109 |
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Pretty much. It happens at private schools and (if there are any left) private |
Cerridwen |
Feb-18-08 10:54 AM |
#110 |
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If I need an ambulance (or the fire department) |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 11:32 AM |
#125 |
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I want a secular everything, except for churches, of course. :D |
Cerridwen |
Feb-18-08 11:51 AM |
#137 |
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May I suggest you post that to your journal, that we may refer others to it often? |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 11:57 AM |
#140 |
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Done. And thank you! |
Cerridwen |
Feb-18-08 12:00 PM |
#142 |
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Well, actually, if you are unwilling to provide the care required |
JerseygirlCT |
Feb-18-08 01:23 PM |
#165 |
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I completely agree. And in this day and age of profit, if I'm paying you, |
Cerridwen |
Feb-18-08 01:59 PM |
#173 |
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Want to see that law, if passed |
vpilot |
Feb-18-08 10:57 AM |
#112 |
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DFW post upthread re a new religious order... |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 11:48 AM |
#134 |
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At the top......... |
DFW |
Feb-18-08 06:03 PM |
#180 |
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Oh, the chill I just felt go up and down my spine |
Luna_Chick |
Feb-18-08 11:09 AM |
#117 |
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Grand post |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 11:50 AM |
#135 |
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Question here... |
skater314159 |
Feb-18-08 11:17 AM |
#118 |
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Just a quick question |
Luna_Chick |
Feb-18-08 11:33 AM |
#126 |
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#1 most likely violates the Civil Rights Act... |
Solon |
Feb-18-08 12:13 PM |
#145 |
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I can see Liberty Univ. and other fundy schools |
mentalsolstice |
Feb-18-08 11:19 AM |
#119 |
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They've been cranking out lawyers like crazy, haven't they? |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 11:55 AM |
#138 |
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Bullseye! That's precisely what is behind this, I'm very willing to bet. nt |
blondeatlast |
Feb-18-08 04:37 PM |
#178 |
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This means... |
jmowreader |
Feb-18-08 11:37 AM |
#130 |
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Yep |
Luna_Chick |
Feb-18-08 11:47 AM |
#133 |
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A Physican is suppose to be advocate for his patient, not |
girl_interrupted |
Feb-18-08 12:19 PM |
#146 |
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And--you can have your immense government-subsidized student loans FORGIVEN |
blondeatlast |
Feb-18-08 06:24 PM |
#182 |
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Ooooo, I missed that facet totally! Good catch. |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 06:29 PM |
#183 |
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Doctors should also be allowed to refuse to treat priapism |
Crunchy Frog |
Feb-18-08 12:27 PM |
#147 |
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Or... |
Luna_Chick |
Feb-18-08 12:39 PM |
#150 |
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We're finally civilized enough that refusing to treat black people is considered heinous, but ... |
Hekate |
Feb-18-08 12:46 PM |
#152 |
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They always have a choice: leave the practice |
JerseygirlCT |
Feb-18-08 01:11 PM |
#154 |
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Bravo! And what about VD? How would we feel if some doctors wouldn't treat that |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 01:18 PM |
#160 |
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Yup. Get the beliefs out of it, period |
JerseygirlCT |
Feb-18-08 01:25 PM |
#166 |
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OK, I gave ya all enough time, and nobody posted: timing of this bill? PA primary Friday |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 01:13 PM |
#156 |
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Ah--I think we've met the fringe issue for 2008... |
blondeatlast |
Feb-18-08 01:20 PM |
#162 |
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Well, there was rumor PA would be this years Florida/Ohio in the GE |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 01:28 PM |
#169 |
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Triage, cadavers, life-or-death decisions and the possibility of mistakes-- |
blondeatlast |
Feb-18-08 01:17 PM |
#159 |
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There ya go, bein all logical and all again |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 01:22 PM |
#164 |
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Sorry. Stuck at home with the flu and waiting for a repairman--so |
blondeatlast |
Feb-18-08 01:25 PM |
#167 |
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Me, with fresh chicken soup in the fridge |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 01:48 PM |
#170 |
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I've cross-posted a link to this thread in the Pro-choice group. |
smokey nj |
Feb-19-08 02:50 PM |
#189 |
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Thanks for that cross post. This is too big to stay in one forum |
havocmom |
Feb-19-08 09:16 PM |
#197 |
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Kickin' to keep it going N/T |
Luna_Chick |
Feb-18-08 04:00 PM |
#176 |
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a kick from the chick, cool |
havocmom |
Feb-18-08 04:18 PM |
#177 |
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Check this one out... |
dajoki |
Feb-19-08 05:37 PM |
#194 |
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Story about this subject... |
dajoki |
Feb-18-08 05:59 PM |
#179 |
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An ER physician should not be permitted to let his own morals subvert his duties. He can find anothe |
blondeatlast |
Feb-18-08 06:06 PM |
#181 |
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And I believe... |
dajoki |
Feb-18-08 09:14 PM |
#185 |
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Word. nt |
blondeatlast |
Feb-19-08 03:38 PM |
#193 |
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Nor should they receive tax-free, non-profit status. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-19-08 06:45 PM |
#195 |
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when religious trumps medicine -- an oath to the religious oligarchy or the practice of medicine |
Supersedeas |
Feb-19-08 02:07 PM |
#187 |
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What makes you think Democrats won't support this? |
depakid |
Feb-19-08 09:35 PM |
#199 |
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any health care provider that allows their religion to trump their duty to the public... |
HuffleClaw |
Feb-19-08 09:54 PM |
#201 |
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The freedom from administrative liability seems to me the biggest problem here. |
mondo joe |
Feb-20-08 02:45 PM |
#206 |
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Cool, huh? Don't you wish YOU could pick and choose what duties of your job to do? |
havocmom |
Feb-20-08 05:32 PM |
#217 |
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This law basically is a way to give special rights based on religion, including |
mondo joe |
Feb-20-08 06:10 PM |
#221 |
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If I'm unmarried, contraception can be denied me. |
uppityperson |
Feb-20-08 02:53 PM |
#211 |
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I am so sick of this nonsense |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Feb-20-08 05:22 PM |
#213 |
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That's it in a nutshell, Buffy! |
havocmom |
Feb-20-08 05:36 PM |
#218 |
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The Handmaiden's Tale |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Feb-20-08 05:41 PM |
#219 |
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Is the doctor required to refer to someone who provide necessary treatment? |
McCamy Taylor |
Feb-20-08 05:29 PM |
#215 |
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This is Afghanistan now? |
Elspeth |
Feb-20-08 06:00 PM |
#220 |
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